My Visit with HAN and Dr. Overbeck

[m_ob]

The shameful part is that we cannot do anything about it. Our grandparents lived in a world where apples tasted natural, nothing was pesticide laden, and plastics leaching into your water and causing early menarche and guys to grow boobs was not a problem at all. We've screwd ourselves over as a race. Now the question is what can we do about it? The answer to that would be inovate.

 

[nickatnite]

Latest pics... Pretty depressing.. :/ Long way to recovery.

 

[m_ob]

Don't worry man. Lifeguarding you see a lot of shirtless guys, and a lot worse looking than this.

 

[nickatnite]

Don't worry man. Lifeguarding you see a lot of shirtless guys, and a lot worse looking than this.

thanks mo b.. its really starting to get at me mentally.

 

[Substance P]

Nick, don't get down on yourself man. Youre gonna get better and look a thousand times better then you can imagine. Ive seen way worse shit than that every day of my life. Your gonna be fine bro.

 

[nickatnite]

Appreciate it bro! Thanks for the support. It really means a lot to me having you guys there.

 

[nickatnite]

Latest labs of June 2010

Enjoy, for those that want to read:

CORTISOL 13.1 [4.3 - 22.4] UG/DL
LH 4.8 [1.5 - 9.3] MIU/ML
T4 7.0 [4.7 - 11.4] MCG/DL
T7(T4 X TU) 2.3 [1.6 - 3.4]
TSH(SENSITIVE) 0.548 [0.350-5.500] UIU/ML
THYROID UPTAKE 32.8 [24.0 - 38.9] %

TESTOSTERONE 298 [262-1593] NG/DL
SHBG 7 [13-71] NMOL/L
CFAA 147.6 [14.8-94.8]
INSULIN 17.2 [<27] UIU/ML

VIT. D, 25 HYDROXY 43.2 [30.0-100.0] NG/ML

REVERSE T3 190 [90-350] PG/ML

COPPER 90 [70-175] MCG/DL

EPINEPHRINE <10 [<84] PG/ML
NOREPINEPHRINE 206 [<420] PG/ML
DOPAMINE <60 [<30] PG/ML

TOTAL CATECHOLAMINES
(Unable to accurately calculate since one or more components
is below detection limit)

ESTRADIOL, Ultra Sensitive 20 < OR = 29pg/ML

INSULIN, Free (Bioactive) 15.1 [1.5-14.9] uIU/mL

TESTOSTERONE (Bioavaililable) 241 ng/DL 62-512
TESTOSTERONE (Total) 309 ng/DL 241-827

CORTISOL, FREE 0.29 mcg/dL

DHEAS (Blood) 312 [280-640] MCG/DL

DHEA (24hour Urinalysis)

Total Volume: 2300 mL

DHEA, Urine: 236 mcg/24h 21-2710

DHEA, Urine: 88 mcg/g creat 24-1640

CREATININE, 24-hour 2.68 0.63-2.50

 

[hardasnails1973]

they are screaming insulin resistance look at SHBG at 7 ...is a huge red flag.

 

[nickatnite]

won't DHEA lower SHBG and make the resistance worse?

 

[hardasnails1973]

Nope dhea is needed to protect you from insulin resistance
cortisol and DHEA have to be balanced.

 

[nickatnite]

DHEA has a balancing effect on Cortisol, but how does that come into play with the conversion to metabolites? Will the DHEA levels be raised in the blood or stay the same and just convert to test & estrogen?

 

[hardasnails1973]

DHEA has a balancing effect on Cortisol, but how does that come into play with the conversion to metabolites? Will the DHEA levels be raised in the blood or stay the same and just convert to test & estrogen?

Every ones body is different the main goal of it is to balance out cortisol imbalances and help reduce insulin resistance to stimuilate your own LH to kick on.. If testosteone does not go up we implement clomid jumpstart.
Adding one variable at a time.

 

[nickatnite]

What about an adrenal glandular during the DHEA TD? Would it be worth a shot?

 

[hardasnails1973]

What about an adrenal glandular during the DHEA TD? Would it be worth a shot?

feel good do not fuck with it..

 

[nickatnite]

Alright then

 

[nickatnite]

Today marks exactly two weeks of being on the Transdermal DHEA cream. So far so good. I still have energy and my libido is improving a little bit at a time. I've noticed an increase in enrgy during the day and am feeling more positive. Still kind of drained in the morning but nothing I can't push through. I'm sure that will improve over time. Thanks again for everyone's support. I also want to thank HAN for being there for me every step of the way and always answering my questions when I need him. Appreciate it man. I consider you a friend for life.

 

[hardasnails1973]

No problem and when we are ready to kick this thing into high gear with nutrition and training to get those saddle bags off you know where you can find. Dr dave is also a door getting ready to open up as well to a whole new world that has been hidden for 1,000 of years as well.

 

[nickatnite]

Sounds awesome.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

There is so much irony in your post and the consult with HAN that it is difficult to know where to begin. BTW: Why don't you ask HAN about the HPTA feedback and "bio-identical" testosterone? LOL

Dr. Scally - Why the jokes? I mean seriously. I came to this board and received a lot of support & valuable advice from numerous people. HAN being one of them. Everything HAN has told me to do has made me feel a lot better. If you disagree with something and you feel its of benefit, please speak on it. But don't sit here and act like I'm looking for some magic pill. I've been going through these issues for 2 years now and every doctor including endocrines and other specialists have only made my situation worse. After all this I'm still keeping an open mind. Can't remember the last time I went to a Dr's office and he made fun of me.

Who is joking? I am not. You are in the hands of a charlatan. From what I read, you are on TD DHEA based on a urine test! Is that right? That is a "magic pill." What exactly is it that "HAN has told me to do has made me feel a lot better." What is your diagnosis? Please tell us. LOL

[Have you read the almost exact threads as yours? We all know that HAN put you up to this thread? Go ahead and deny it, check out the search tool for the same kind of threads. Oh, yeah, none of them have a diagnosis, treatment, or resolution.]

 

[m_ob]

Who is joking? I am not. You are in the hands of a charlatan. From what I read, you are on TD DHEA based on a urine test! Is that right? That is a "magic pill." What exactly is it that "HAN has told me to do has made me feel a lot better." What is your diagnosis? Please tell us. LOL

[Have you read the almost exact threads as yours? We all know that HAN put you up to this thread? Go ahead and deny it, check out the search tool for the same kind of threads. Oh, yeah, none of them have a diagnosis, treatment, or resolution.]

I have proof of this..I was one of the naive guys who actually fell for HAN's strange and amateur practices..He offered me a phone consultation. I will not lie, it was free and at the time I thought he was doing this out of the kindness of his heart. After listening to him rant about methylation issues and trying to convince me that the phytates in my oatmeal were the root of all my problems he told me quote "Oh and be sure you put a thread up on Meso explaining how much I have helped you and how I donated my time." The real joke would have been actually paying him. It was bad enough wasting 2 hours of my day.