2nd cycle results and thoughts on 3rd cycle

Reinheart

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For those who don't know, my first cycle consisted of d-bol at 20mgs and restandol at 240mgs for 6 weeks. I gained a total of 27lbs of which i kept about 20 after my 3 week pct with 20mgs Nolvadex.

A few months later, i started my second cycle which consisted 30mgs d-bol for the first 4 weeks and test e (pharm grade) at 500-600mgs per week divided in two injections for 11 weeks. Then i waited 3 weeks on which i only took 20mgs d-bol as a pre-workout supplement and 900iu HCG oer week in three divided shots (i used hcg throughout the entire cycle at 600iu per week).

As of today, I am on the second week of my pct. No side effects to report so far. I am worried though because i have lost a lot of weight... I gained a total of 18lbs (I would have gained more if my eating was better at times) and so far i have lost about 9lbs. I don't look like i have lost any muscle mass and my muscles are hard, hell, i am even gaining naturally even on pct.

I am continuously losing size from my waste. I may just be losing fat and water and adding muscle naturally, but still, i have lost most of my strength and weight gained.

I am very skeptical about using test next time, even at the range of 500-600mgs. Test is the best, yes but i got very intense body hair growth in places i didn't have hair and apparently it made me hold a ton of water plus i started feeling it work at about week 6-7 and i gained most of the muscle mass from weeks 7/8-11....

I was a fool to believe that proviron would have protected me from the excess water retention. Next time i am going to use A-dex at 0.25mgs eod and drop proviron completely.

It honestly does nothing more than enhancing one's libido but i get that from test as well so i don't see why i have to tax my liver even more by taking 100mgs Proviron ed for months...

I am open to cycle suggestions now for my third run. I am really tempted by EQ but it takes forever to kick in and clear the system. I certainly don't want to wait 5 weeks before starting my pct so this leaves me with other alternatives. NPP perhaps?
 
I'm no veteran with steroid use but I am pretty sure any cycle you take after your first will have no where near the same gains. D-bol and Test E are known notoriously for their water retention so don't stress out about the 9lbs you lost. I honestly think the scale is an evil thing, use the mirror and how you feel in the gym to base your results on, not just the scale.
 
Also, I am just curious as what led you to use restandol for your first cycle? Thats not very common is it? I had to Google that because I had never heard of it before although it sounds interesting.
 
Also, I am just curious as what led you to use restandol for your first cycle? Thats not very common is it? I had to Google that because I had never heard of it before although it sounds interesting.

I used it because it would maintain a very favorable androgenic environment while d-bol would build all the muscle. And so it happened. :)

Usually it's on the most expensive steroids out there but you know how free things are in Greece and what goodies i can get my hands on, on drugstores. :)
 
I have decided to do the following cycle:

Weeks 1-7: 100mgs NPP eod
Weeks 1-8: 100mgs Test Prop eod
Weeks 3-10: 30-50mgs D-bol
Weeks 3-10: 300iu HCG e4d
Weeks 11-14: 20mgs Nolvadex

This is going to be the hell of a bulker! :D
 
according to ur picture, u need to get in shape + some more bulking, but what u stated in ur next cycle wont make u reach that goal, i prefer u drop the d-bol and never think about taking it again for 3 cycles and here a good 1 for u

a cycle of 12 weeks

week 1-12
Testosterone Cypionate 500-600 mg/week
Primobolan 400-500 mg/week
week 1-13
Masterone 100 mg/EOD

for the anti drugs:
-hcg according to u and when u feel ur balls are getting shrinked.
-hold nolvadex or arimidex in hands but dont take it during cycle unless u start feeling the symptoms of gyno.

PCT:
start it on week 14 with
Nolvadex 40mg/day week 1-2 then drop to 20mg/day week 3-4
aromasin 25mg/day week 1-4
clomid 150-100mg/day week 1-4
hcg 300-500IU/week week 1-4

this cycle will add u slow but solid gains with no water retention...
 
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Did you even read my entire post? I said that i want to use a low dose of testosterone and base my cycle on anabolics, not androgens and that i only want to use a healthy dose of testosterone.

I have been weight lifting for over 8 years and i am at 190lbs with 12%bf at 5,11.

If that's not "in shape" i am anxiously waiting to see your pictures.
 
Reinheart, his pictures won't prove anything because at 3'9" , even 40 pounds of lean muscle will look good. Ignore this little troll. He is literally barely above legally retarded.
 
according to ur picture, u need to get in shape + some more bulking, but what u stated in ur next cycle wont make u reach that goal, i prefer u drop the d-bol and never think about taking it again for 3 cycles and here a good 1 for u

a cycle of 12 weeks

week 1-12
Testosterone Cypionate 500-600 mg/week
Primobolan 400-500 mg/week
week 1-13
Masterone 100 mg/EOD

for the anti drugs:
-hcg according to u and when u feel ur balls are getting shrinked.
-hold nolvadex or arimidex in hands but dont take it during cycle unless u start feeling the symptoms of gyno.

PCT:
start it on week 14 with
Nolvadex 40mg/day week 1-2 then drop to 20mg/day week 3-4
aromasin 25mg/day week 1-4
clomid 150-100mg/day week 1-4
hcg 300-500IU/week week 1-4

this cycle will add u slow but solid gains with no water retention...

Test Cyp will not cause water retention?
Don't use d-bol to bulk?
Use HCG during pct?

Dr. Maged, in your infinite 1 cycle experience, and please keep it simple so you don't blow my brain out, could you answer the questions I have asked above? Make sure to include quotes from your thread where all of the vets explained to you why you don't use HCG during PCT. And also, please give examples of d-bol not being applicable(which means "able to apply") to a 3rd bulking cycle. Oh yeah, I'm very interested in the lack of bloat from test-cyp, so please give me the science behind that.

Your loyal pupil,
someanddone
 
according to ur picture, u need to get in shape + some more bulking, but what u stated in ur next cycle wont make u reach that goal, i prefer u drop the d-bol and never think about taking it again for 3 cycles and here a good 1 for u

a cycle of 12 weeks

week 1-12
Testosterone Cypionate 500-600 mg/week
Primobolan 400-500 mg/week
week 1-13
Masterone 100 mg/EOD

for the anti drugs:
-hcg according to u and when u feel ur balls are getting shrinked.
-hold nolvadex or arimidex in hands but dont take it during cycle unless u start feeling the symptoms of gyno.

PCT:
start it on week 14 with
Nolvadex 40mg/day week 1-2 then drop to 20mg/day week 3-4
aromasin 25mg/day week 1-4
clomid 150-100mg/day week 1-4
hcg 300-500IU/week week 1-4

this cycle will add u slow but solid gains with no water retention...


This guy is hilarious. He's giving vets advice!
 
Sorry to say, I think that guy has a point, just looking at you, you just need to eat more son. You don't need roids. Who adviced you to go on roids??? you need food kid, thats all, that would be your steroid. Then you may not even need steroids.

Im sick of seeing young punks shootin gear when they dont eat. Just eat food!!.

If you dont want to eat, just wait til 25 - 30, thats when you may fill out by nature even if you dont eat much.

Do that and then ask me for advice and i will show you how its done.
 
Sorry to say, I think that guy has a point, just looking at you, you just need to eat more son. You don't need roids. Who adviced you to go on roids??? you need food kid, thats all, that would be your steroid. Then you may not even need steroids.

Im sick of seeing young punks shootin gear when they dont eat. Just eat food!!.

If you dont want to eat, just wait til 25 - 30, thats when you may fill out by nature even if you dont eat much.

Do that and then ask me for advice and i will show you how its done.

I eat every 2-3 hours, i am an ectomorph and i have gained more than 50lbs naturally in the past 8 years so don't run your fucking mouth unless you're sure that what you say is correct asshole.

I don't need anyone to advice me to get on roids. I did it because i wanted to and by the way, i am 24. I have been into bodybuilding for the past 8 years and i have been doing sports for the biggest part of my life.

You are talking shit about my physique? Post some pics so we can see what you look like.
 
Giving me attitude for telling you the truth, have i hurt your feelings dear. Well read this.

8 years training and doing roids!!!! WTF?!!!

You dont have much to show for your efforts son, prolly cos you dont eat real man food you naturally low test pussy.

Throw those needles away, put that vial down, Go eat a sandwich.
 
Giving me attitude for telling you the truth, have i hurt your feelings dear. Well read this.

8 years training and doing roids!!!! WTF?!!!

You dont have much to show for your efforts son, prolly cos you dont eat real man food you naturally low test pussy.

Throw those needles away, put that vial down, Go eat a sandwich.

Nah, don't worry about my feelings. I don't let douchbaggery touch them.

I am still waiting to see your physique "high test alpha male".

Oh, and by the way, i didn't know you can judge someone from just one photo. Wow!

Look, i don't disagree with what you say about steroids but i am not a newbie and i am not a teen. Save your words for those who really need them.

I didn't say i have been juicing for 8 years, i said i have been weightlifting for the past 8 years.
 
save my words for those who really need them !!!?? You need them you skinny shit!

You think by prickin your ass a few times you are somehow a big man now, you still look like a lil shit. so go eat a sandwich.
 
save my words for those who really need them !!!?? You need them you skinny shit!

You think by prickin your ass a few times you are somehow a big man now, you still look like a lil shit. so go eat a sandwich.

You're all conclusions and calling names but you still haven't posted a photo of yours so we can see how big and mean you are, oh alpha male!

[:o)]

You're such a fucking joke...
 
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