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Sorry Millard, I forgot to mention the liver, but if you intermusculear injects it is still on the liver??
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Sorry Millard, I forgot to mention the liver, but if you intermusculear injects it is still on the liver??
Yes, it is as Millard said.
since both metabolized in liver the only possible benefit i see is that injecting anadrol can get more into circulation than taking same amount in a pill. the gut and digestive enzymes may prevent some from getting into system. bill, is there a huge difference in this? is it worth it.
I don't think so, no. It's not as if one can't obtain the levels and effect one wants orally, easily enough. In fact it's easy to take more of the orals than best for the individual.
The only reason where personally I'd see it would be if for whatever reason, one had only so much of a given oral such as Anadrol and felt that it could never be obtained again and wanted to absolutely get maximum mileage from it no matter the trouble, rather than just taking the needed amount orally.
But if that's not the case, it's just not expensive to use the desired amount orally.
The only reason where personally I'd see it would be if for whatever reason, one had only so much of a given oral such as Anadrol and felt that it could never be obtained again and wanted to absolutely get maximum mileage from it no matter the trouble, rather than just taking the needed amount orally.
But if that's not the case, it's just not expensive to use the desired amount orally.
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My friend ronny wrote an article about it
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http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/content/oral-liquid-and-injectable-d-bol-dianabol-methandrostenolone-methandienoneWell, on the article, I have to say that what Dan Duchaine said to me about the subject -- injectable vs oral Dianabol -- was quite the opposite as what the article reports as his opinion.
His take at least when he spoke to me about it (this was in 1997) was that oral Dianabol was more effective than injected Dianabol, not less.
It might be that he changed his opinion with time, but if referencing his first book as the article says, then his view on this changed to the opposite of what's in the article.
Myself, I'd guess that the efficacy question is one of those things where very similar effect can easily look as if it's either more this way or more that way, from random variation, until building more of an experience base and then perhaps seeing what appears to be the opposite outcome.
Potential reason for more effect orally: Increased stimulation of growth factors from the liver, particularly IGF-1. Evidence for? None. Likelihood? I'd think little as for example 50 mg/day provided by injection is providing enough to the system as a whole that the liver receives high blood levels this way too.
Potential reason for more effect by injection: Maybe bioavailability is significantly reduced orally, but there's no evidence, and importantly, we have absolutely no problem getting all the Dianabol effect we want anyway! It's not as if it's hard to dose the drug enough. Many deliberately choose more modest amounts of it. So even if there is a bioavailability difference, well, just take a few mg more for the same muscle-building effect.
His take at least when he spoke to me about it (this was in 1997) was that oral Dianabol was more effective than injected Dianabol, not less.
It might be that he changed his opinion with time, but if referencing his first book as the article says, then his view on this changed to the opposite of what's in the article.
Myself, I'd guess that the efficacy question is one of those things where very similar effect can easily look as if it's either more this way or more that way, from random variation, until building more of an experience base and then perhaps seeing what appears to be the opposite outcome.
Potential reason for more effect orally: Increased stimulation of growth factors from the liver, particularly IGF-1. Evidence for? None. Likelihood? I'd think little as for example 50 mg/day provided by injection is providing enough to the system as a whole that the liver receives high blood levels this way too.
Potential reason for more effect by injection: Maybe bioavailability is significantly reduced orally, but there's no evidence, and importantly, we have absolutely no problem getting all the Dianabol effect we want anyway! It's not as if it's hard to dose the drug enough. Many deliberately choose more modest amounts of it. So even if there is a bioavailability difference, well, just take a few mg more for the same muscle-building effect.
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You should invite Ronny to come back to meso occasionally!
In addition, since all liquid preparations of Dianabol come from UGL (or veterinarian) sources and of less-than-pharmaceutical-grade-quality, I think it'd be preferable to consume it orally rather than via injection.
Reforvit didn't taste bad. That was the taste of muscle growth - what's not to like?! [
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I.ll shall ask him
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