:-bd Cool story bro
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BEWARE: HulkHogan = TheCludge = Known Scammer
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:-bd Cool story bro
dr jim is right though. many of your post come off as condescending and aggro as hell. cool it a bit and enjoy the scenery.
I don't get it guys.
I'll start by saying I don't know either one of these guys and I haven't been here to see them interact on the board. It looks like some folks have a problem with Jag and his posts and hogan has been thrown out as a scammer.
The point is, not knowing anything else, I can clearly see that hogan and cludge ARE the same scammer. It's just fuckin bullshit as far as I'm concerned. Letting a known scammer continue to post. I'm not sticking up for jag on this one as I don't know him but I'm not blind to what has been put out there.
Any of you fellas that think it's ok to use multiple accounts here, don't try it at any vet underground boards because some of them will trip a detector for that shit and you will be banned. It's been my and others experience that multiple accounts used on the same board are for deceit. I didn't even know there was a board that allowed it anymore.
HDH
I'll start by saying I don't know either one of these guys and I haven't been here to see them interact on the board. It looks like some folks have a problem with Jag and his posts and hogan has been thrown out as a scammer.
The point is, not knowing anything else, I can clearly see that hogan and cludge ARE the same scammer. It's just fuckin bullshit as far as I'm concerned. Letting a known scammer continue to post. I'm not sticking up for jag on this one as I don't know him but I'm not blind to what has been put out there.
Any of you fellas that think it's ok to use multiple accounts here, don't try it at any vet underground boards because some of them will trip a detector for that shit and you will be banned. It's been my and others experience that multiple accounts used on the same board are for deceit. I didn't even know there was a board that allowed it anymore.
HDH
I don't understand your logic.
All terrorists use anonymous identities on internet forums and message boards. But that doesn't mean all people who use anonymous identities are terrorists. And just because someone defends the use of anonymous identities doesn't mean they support terrorism.
But that is essentially what you are saying when it comes to the use of multiple identities and scammers.
While I may not follow conventional wisdom on "vet forums", I think it is incredibly risky to have a single identity. If anyone values privacy, then creating multiple identities is a must. There are few better ways to maintain privacy in the age of Facebook than this. I would hope everyone here uses a different identity to talk about steroids than they use to talk about other areas of their lives. I'd even recommend creating an "steroid identity" that is separate from a "bodybuilding identity". It's not about deceit. It's about keeping your opinions on a controversial activity from impacting other aspects of your life.
There are better ways to fight scammers than banning multiple identities.
Personally, I just find it funny that instead of denying that The Cludge is a scammer, he tried to deny he was even The Cludge in the first place! I guess he was gambling that nobody would click the link and draw the easy connection, but it would make more sense to me to discredit the substantiating evidence that he scammed people.
To me, this indicates he knew what The Cludge was up to and tried to disassociate himself from (himself). In my mind, there is absolutely no doubt they are the same person and the allegations of scamming are true.
Oh well, this thread isn't going anywhere so anybody that logs on can at least educate themselves and proceed with caution. It served its purpose in that regard.
That's because the majority of my posts on this site have been in response to direct attacks by a select few who decided they had a beef with me, partly because of their own lack of reading comprehension.
I'm enjoying the scenery just fine, but when there are turds out there shitting in the woods, it partly ruins the view.
STFU you fucking idiot. Jagoff didn't prove a fucking thing you jerk off. He just analyses every single post(Since he has no life) and picked one where I continued a Private conversation with a VET here and posted public.
He then came up with this Cludge bullshit to spread garbage.You understand you fucking drama queen. If I or this mythical cludge scammed people here; WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY!!!!! Has anyone chimed in saying they were scammed here by me or the cludge you dumb fuck?
Before you get your panties in a bunch think a little dumb fuck.
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No it's because YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT PENCIL NECK GEEK WITH NO LIFE AND NO HOPE OF HITTING 180 pounds MUCH LESS 200 POUNDS.
Every single one of your post has been to argue and to spread shit and lies. You have tried to SHILL and SCAM on one post and FAILED Miserably because you were called out. You are a worthless piece of shit that has been banned from any serious board and now you have found a 'home" here because of wayyyyyyyyyyyy too tolerate mods.
IF this is the direction mESO wants to take and allows pieces of fucking shit scammers and shills like you on here to disrespect the board, the members and add nothing but PUSSY DRAMA and BULLSHIT then so be it.
I am gone. Have fun bitch because on any other board you wouldn't last a second and you haven't.
If this board doesn't have the self respect to ban a piece of fucking shit like you: BYE BYE. Enjoy your 1000 WP shill posts and these little shits running around adding nothing but pussy hole drama comments.
I'll stick to the boards that ACTUALLY talk useful stuff.
You can erase this account if you please meso mods. The direction it's going isn't going to serve anyone except 14 year olds who want to bitch and moan.
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Bigkarch
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wow...and it comes out....
Many people claim they want an uncensored forum. But in reality, many people would rather be protected by big brother or at least shielded to some degree.
Freedom of speech is a nice-sounding ideal but there are many problems associated with protecting speech e.g. scamming, trolling and flaming.
As a compromise to retain the uncensored flavor of this forum, and consistent with our policy of "transparent moderation", posts that are determined to be offensive, disruptive, etc are being removed to the following thread:
thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-underground/transparent-moderating-anything-deleted-134319742
So long, you won't be missed. I'm sure you have a couple other accounts ready to go lol
But before you go, you should probably check out this link. You definitely need it:
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastrozole]Anastrozole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Vagasil might work too.
Yep some take advantage and abuse the PRIVLIGES bestowed upon them, flawless logic Millard!! I believe the terrorism analogy was apropo also.
Damn son, if you think you're going to get me all riled up over some name calling you better take a step back and rethink your approach. This isn't going to be about anger and name calling it's going to be about truth and logic. I hope you can keep up because they don't seem to be your strong points
First of all, how in this world do you call anyone dumb, stupid, idiot, ect...
Hell, you even called jag a bad scammer and I'm sure you know all about the subject. Shit, you aren't even bright enough to post with the same alias in the same thread. What does that say about you? Says a lot to me. Bad scammer? Maybe. Wait though, aren't you all over google as a scammer? Oh, that's right, you are.
I guess you were right about one thing, you definitely know what a bad scammer is. All you have to do is google yourself.
You should be thankful for the board being lenient and letting scammers hang out. If you go to any other board, and I repeat ANY, with the info that jag has put up you would be banned. Period.
You can say you are done here but you aren't. As long as you can use a different handle, you're not going anywhere.
The only reason you want to stick with this handle is because of the time behind it (join date). If all this could just blow over and be forgotten, you will be a respected vet with the length of membership time here.
You're not fooling anyone, everyone here is just trying to get along and conform. More of the members need to grow a sack, stop being agreeable and show some integrity.
HDH
Terrorists? Really?
Gotta hand it to you though, you know how to grab the attention of the members.
Lets keep this simple and apply some real world experience to the subject.
Lets ask ourselves a couple questions.
How many people do we know or have we heard of that have gotten into shit because they only use one handle on a single board?
None.
How many people have we heard of that use multiple handles on a board that scam or use deceit?
More than I can remember.
I'm not saying everyone that does it is deceitful but going by the logic that it's for safety reasons, is just silly to me.
How about the safety of the good members. Aren't you worried about them getting scammed?
Here's a small example of deceit-
A few months back when I was posting before Meso took on WP as a sponsor, I was helping a member through PM. I caught him using 2 handles and busted him in a lie.
Here's a better example-
This thread. Scammer cludge slips up and posts with a different handle. Years later he's back. And no, he didn't find god either.
Now, if multiple user names weren't allowed like on every other board, there wouldn't be a long time scammer of the community posting here with some time to back him up.
HDH
LOL. I understand he didn't find GOD HDH. I was just putting that out there as an extreme. I figured it would get there attention and others. And it obviously did so. They stopped all the bullshit until it was brought back up again. Both of them are somewhat knowledgeable but would rather piss on each other than help the board out. That's why I stepped in to make a little peace and get things going in the right direction in here.
If anyone believes any private info given to them from either one of these guys such as sources or what not then they need their heads examined.
As for anonymity and AAS I should probably take Millard's advise and be more secretive. Shit I have had the sane handle here and use this name on other boards throughout the years. Never have changed it. Makes sense to me.
As you know this board IS NOT LIKE ANY OTHER BOARDS bro! You have been around a long time and I have read and respect 99% of your post and opinion so please don't think I am trying to discredit what you are saying. But, you are wrong on the whole anonymity comment.
This is the "world" we live in.
mands
How could you fail to address the perfect analogy? Or did you fail to address it because it was perfect?
You are absolutely wrong. Many people have gotten into legal trouble involving from steroid acquisition from the use of a single handle. If they paid a little more attention to privacy precautions, the outcomes may have been different.
Believe me, I completely understand your argument for giving up privacy for a little more security.
I simply disagree. I would rather defend individual privacy.
By relinquishing the freedom to use multiple identities, an individual is giving up privacy. It's as simple as that.
The safety of members is my utmost concern. Which is exactly why I advocate the use of multiple identities. Quite honestly, someone who has a handle with 10,000 posts on a dozen bodybuilding forums who uses that same handle during the acquisition of steroids is taking unnecessary risks. Law enforcement loves this type of trail. Not advisable.
And members here are smart enough to figure it out without the protection of big brother.
I also don't need to point out the obvious - there are scammers using multiple identities on every other board. A rule against it hasn't stopped it. Why not ban scammers instead of multiple identities?
HDH, let's move our discussion to its own thread if that's ok? I think it is an interesting discussion, difference of opinion.
One thing I don't get is everyone is a supposed "scammer" yet who has been scammed by anyone? It seems Hulk and Jagger are both competing scammers trying to out each other on a new battlefield.
Either way I would get rid of all these bums who argue. It really serves no purpose to for the board. It seems both Hulk and Jagger like to stir shit up and both seem to be "cut and paste" professors. I understand an "uncensored" board but if I post child porn here will it remain? There is no such thing as uncensored on the internet. Bums like this need the boot for the greater good of the community or they will flood the board with useless crap.
Either way I would get rid of all these bums who argue. It really serves no purpose to for the board. It seems both Hulk and Jagger like to stir shit up and both seem to be "cut and paste" professors. I understand an "uncensored" board but if I post child porn here will it remain? There is no such thing as uncensored on the internet. Bums like this need the boot for the greater good of the community or they will flood the board with useless crap.
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