First inject cycle

[Tekton]

Hi guys, new to this forum. Been reading and reading and reading for a long time though. Currently I'm on a low dbol cycle, to try my wings more or less. I am planning to jump on my first inject cycle in February next year. I got a few questions though.

I've been reading alot about HCG, can't claim to get any smarter though, fuzzy subject that one. This is how I intend to do the cycle anyway.

w1-20 testo e 250mg e5d
w2-22 HCG
w22-26 Nolvadex 20mg ed (might skip the nolva and jump on the peptide bandwagon instead, depending on what my research leads me to)

My first question is regarding HCG. I'd like to shoot e5d as I will with my testo. Most people seem to hit eod or e3d, is it a must? E5d would be so much more convenient, only one inject interval to keep track off. I was thinking somewhere around 500iu e5d, what do you guys think?

Is there a difference between testo enanthate and testo cypionate? Some say they both got the same half-life, some say cyp got longer.

If someone here is well wandered in the peptide world, mainly regarding GHRP-2 and MOD GRF 1-29, please shoot me a pm, I got a few short questions.

Thanks in advance
Tekton

 

[Sworder]

You might want to do some more research before you get yourself into unknown waters!

 

[jmo1]

Looks like you should do some more research from where I am sitting. I will point you in the right direction, though.

HCG you inject SUB-Q. Which is less of a hassle than IM, I think anyway. I can suggest you buy a paper calendar and mark off in advance the entire cycle. So date of injection, what compound, what injection site to use, dose. You can mark your PCT too, makes life a lot easier.

For yours, and most people's purposes, Enanthate and cyptionate are identical. Just get which ever you can.

I don't know much about peptides.

Final comment, I would recommend a higher does than 250mg per week. And a shorter cycle time. 500 for 10 weeks is a solid cycle. 500 vs 250 is an age old debate, studies show, however that 500mg offers in some cases more than twice the gains.

 

[solo47]

Looks like you should do some more research from where I am sitting. I will point you in the right direction, though.

HCG you inject SUB-Q. Which is less of a hassle than IM, I think anyway. I can suggest you buy a paper calendar and mark off in advance the entire cycle. So date of injection, what compound, what injection site to use, dose. You can mark your PCT too, makes life a lot easier.

For yours, and most people's purposes, Enanthate and cyptionate are identical. Just get which ever you can.

I don't know much about peptides.

Final comment, I would recommend a higher does than 250mg per week. And a shorter cycle time. 500 for 10 weeks is a solid cycle. 500 vs 250 is an age old debate, studies show, however that 500mg offers in some cases more than twice the gains.

Good advice.

As to peptides, GHRP (either one) works well with modified GRF-129. They don't help with PCT (post cycle therapy), however. They may help you retain more of your muscular growth than you would do otherwise (in the same way as GH), but they have no influence on your HPTA or hormones.

Solo

 

[PUMP THAT]

Good advice.

As to peptides, GHRP (either one) works well with modified GRF-129. They don't help with PCT (post cycle therapy), however. They may help you retain more of your muscular growth than you would do otherwise (in the same way as GH), but they have no influence on your HPTA or hormones.

Solo

good post.

 

[bodybuilder2012]

first cycle should be 10-12 weeks. 22 is wayyyy too long at low dose regardless. Use a test e at 500 mgs a week split two 2 250mg shots a week about every three days apart. if frustrated about it not kicking in until week 5 then kickstart with some dbol on an every other day dose. most use 30-50 mg but most common and effective i believe from research is a 40 mg dose eod. Then plan clomid and nolva cycle for pct. first test base cycle doesnt need anymore compounds imo and depending on diet and training people have put on 20plus pounds from this cycle. what you keep depends on yout pct and diet routine. study more. that cycle sounds rough and dangerous to me.

 

[BigShadow]

first cycle should be 10-12 weeks. 22 is wayyyy too long at low dose regardless. Use a test e at 500 mgs a week split two 2 250mg shots a week about every three days apart. if frustrated about it not kicking in until week 5 then kickstart with some dbol on an every other day dose. most use 30-50 mg but most common and effective i believe from research is a 40 mg dose eod. Then plan clomid and nolva cycle for pct. first test base cycle doesnt need anymore compounds imo and depending on diet and training people have put on 20plus pounds from this cycle. what you keep depends on yout pct and diet routine. study more. that cycle sounds rough and dangerous to me.

Agree. Also If I read it right you said you would start pct immediately after last pin. With running a longer ester you want to start pct 2 weeks after last pin. So if you go 10 weeks which i would think be ideal for a first cycle, pct starts week 12.

 

[leoclaw79]

you dont need to add dbol to kickstart. you should do a 10 week cycle at 500 mg / week. frontload on the first day with 750 mg of test to get your levels where they need to be fast as possible. and wait like a week and a half before starting pct