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deca for 6 weeks, the last at only 250mg? just for the joints?
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Drop the a drol from week 7, and replace it w/ sus, 500 mgs. If you have it, go w/ test prop, 100 mgs e2d for week 8, then 50mgs e3d week 9.
After last shot of t p, run 1500 IUs of HCG e2d for 2 weeks. You will (99%) sure need an AI, and a serm to manage HCGs' estro dump. Drop AI and continue w/ Tamox/and or Clomid, 30 and 100 respectively for a week. Then 50/30, then titrate nolva down.
Deca at 500mg "for joints"?
Hmm, 2014 may be on spot depending upon AGE, last cycle, and when your last LH was documented as NORMAL based on LABS!
Jim
Hmm, 2014 may be on spot depending upon AGE, last cycle, and when your last LH was documented as NORMAL based on LABS!
Jim
I won't comment on the pct but it makes no sense to run deca at any dose for only 6 weeks. You won't have enough time to get the benefits from it but you'll still get the shut down. NPP is stellar on short cycles - easy on, easy off.
Time course of plasma testosterone concentrations in 23 healthy men over 32 days after intramuscular injection of 100 mg of nandrolone phenylpropionate in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle into the gluteal muscle (group 1) (?) or injection of 100 mg of nandrolone decanoate into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 2) (?), into the gluteal muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 3) (•) or into the deltoid muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 4) (?). Results expressed as mean and S.E.M., unless the S.E. is smaller than the symbol.
The pharmacodynamic variability in plasma testosterone concentrations is accounted for by the variability between esters and the site and volume of injection of the nandrolone injections. The overall kinetics of suppression of testosterone is dominated by the slow negative feedback system, rather than the much faster metabolic clearance of testosterone. This negative feedback is mediated via inhibition of pulsatile gonadotropin-releasing hormone secretion from hypothalamic neurons into the pituitary portal system and then pituitary LH secretion from gonadotropes. After a single 100 mg injection of NPP, recovery takes 10+ days. After ND, recovery takes 15+ days. It is important to note these are single administrations of 100 mg. HPTA recovery with repeated HIGHER doses is long, often VERY LONG!!!!
Minto CF, Howe C, Wishart S, Conway AJ, Handelsman DJ. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of nandrolone esters in oil vehicle: effects of ester, injection site and injection volume. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 1997;281(1):93-102. Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics of Nandrolone Esters in Oil Vehicle: Effects of Ester, Injection Site and Injection Volume
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Time course of plasma testosterone concentrations in 23 healthy men over 32 days after intramuscular injection of 100 mg of nandrolone phenylpropionate in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle into the gluteal muscle (group 1) (?) or injection of 100 mg of nandrolone decanoate into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 2) (?), into the gluteal muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 3) (•) or into the deltoid muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 4) (?). Results expressed as mean and S.E.M., unless the S.E. is smaller than the symbol.
The pharmacodynamic variability in plasma testosterone concentrations is accounted for by the variability between esters and the site and volume of injection of the nandrolone injections. The overall kinetics of suppression of testosterone is dominated by the slow negative feedback system, rather than the much faster metabolic clearance of testosterone. This negative feedback is mediated via inhibition of pulsatile gonadotropin-releasing hormone secretion from hypothalamic neurons into the pituitary portal system and then pituitary LH secretion from gonadotropes. After a single 100 mg injection of NPP, recovery takes 10+ days. After ND, recovery takes 15+ days. It is important to note these are single administrations of 100 mg. HPTA recovery with repeated HIGHER doses is long, often VERY LONG!!!!
Minto CF, Howe C, Wishart S, Conway AJ, Handelsman DJ. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of nandrolone esters in oil vehicle: effects of ester, injection site and injection volume. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 1997;281(1):93-102. Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics of Nandrolone Esters in Oil Vehicle: Effects of Ester, Injection Site and Injection Volume
ok Dr Scally
so when i can start my pct and when i can start my next cycle??
so how professional bodybuilder as jay cutler recovery your test,fsh,lh??
This is interesting. I looked into this a bit futher and it appears recovery time from nandrolone might be dependant on factors other than the ester. I always assumed NPP's shorter ester would make it an ideal choice for short cycles where recovery is a concern. It seems I've also been afflicted with the broscience bug that's been going around lately.
I like your approach, Doc. You give a gentle nudge in the direction one should go but leave it up to the reader to figure it out on their own. I think people learn more that way if they are willing to do the work. Thanks
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You ROCK Dr. S, and this post reinforces what I've (and you) said previously about Deca.
Unlike many others AAS with less potent and or short lived active metabolites, the "half life" of the parent compound Nandrolone is NOT reflective of the remarkable HTPA suppression which occurs because of its use.
Consequently time to the institution of SERMS is often delayed for several more weeks or in some instances months beyond that which is expected from the use of other AAS!
Yep 2014 is on spot DOC!
Unlike many others AAS with less potent and or short lived active metabolites, the "half life" of the parent compound Nandrolone is NOT reflective of the remarkable HTPA suppression which occurs because of its use.
Consequently time to the institution of SERMS is often delayed for several more weeks or in some instances months beyond that which is expected from the use of other AAS!
Yep 2014 is on spot DOC!
What makes you think Jay Cutler is concerned about recovery?
Do NOT confuse infertility with impotency. If you have a problem with this, you have NO understanding of andrology. However, this makes sense reading your questions. IMO, you, too, will wind up infertile.
so how branch warren,milos sarcev,dorian yates have son?
Who said anything about their fertility or infertility. The point being that from your few posts thus far you have exhibited an absence of knowledge, but you wish for us to believe you are experienced enough to do the cycle you posted. It is about you and others like you. Keep it up. I am enjoying the comedy.
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