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[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Censored,
So No forum
History at all. A few months in with some bogus name an 1000 post.

Was nice to chat. I have Better things to do today then bicker with some old banned member of our site.

My goodness. What a toothless little twat you are without the power of the ban hammer and the ability to delete posts. It must suck for you to venture away from the protection Promuscle and the countless bag lickers that follow the mods around telling them they're awesome. I see why you only have a handful of posts at Meso in 9 years.

And bickering, Mod... really? I simply asked you to answer a few legitimate questions about Promuscle. My questions were genuine. I made no accusations other than PM mods and vets receive free gear to shill for sponsors, which is already common knowledge,

And if you see bickering in this exchange, your reading comprehension is lacking. I asked questions that many Meso members would like answers to, and I was met with a display of linguistic gymnastics, evasion and deflection, the likes of which are seldom seen outside of a presidential hopeful's press conference during an election year.

You hoped to turn this into a discussion about me and my forum history and it has failed. Of course it was always completely irrelevant but it did have a chance of succeeding... if I took the bait. But, I know your game better than you do. You cannot draw me in. That should have been obvious by the end of my first post but by failing to recognize that fact early in this discussion, you continued trying, thereby making your evasion of my questions glaringly obvious. And rest assured it has not gone unnoticed by the Meso community.

You are an intellectual lightweight. You have nothing to fight with without the ban hammer. Your inability to construct even a rudimentary argument to support your position is laughable. But, you do ONE thing well - you represent everthing that is wrong and wicked about the online AAS business.

You have proven the point I wanted to make about Promuscle with your own words. And better than I ever could have hoped. I do find one thing puzzling, though. I always thought Andre was an intelligent man, if nothing else, but by hiring such an extremely poor representitive of Promuscle, I'm even doubting that now.

Warmest Regards
CBS

 

[Stretch]

No, never heard of him



I've been a member of many forums at one time or another.



It was so long ago, it is irrelevant.



Yes



Not obscessed with PM, per se. I just detest censored boards and since you're a mod at PM and you're here, my comments were about PM. I have the same issues with all the big source boards, so don't flatter yourself.



I can't recall the name of one member in particular and am unwilling to take the time to search, so I'll concede this point to you if it really means that much. It really wasn't important, anyway and has only served as a distraction from your evasion of my other questions.



I was on dial-up. 14.4K modem with a compaq 386. If I remember correctly, it had a processor speed of 16Mhz, 2 or 4 megs of ram, a 40 meg HD and ran OS 3.something. It cost more than 3 grand in 91 and it was FAST for the era. It was obsolete within a few months.

The first strength training forum I got on was misc.fitness.weights, and anyone who was around at that time knew it was THE place to be. Bill Roberts was there, Dan Duchaine, Pat Arnold, Rob Schuh... the list was endless.

Of course being usenet, it was uncensored, but in its own way, it was able to self-censor the most of the bullshit you see today. And it was well before the era of online sources so obviously there were no AAS scams but because statements HAD to be supported with scientific evidence, you knew the info you got there was accurate and in many cases, cutting edge. There were some epic flame wars but a lot of fun, too.

I still believe the freedom granted by usenet made it the BEST model for online discussion that has ever existed. But, I'm enough of a realist to know it's not viable anymore due to the sheer number of noobs, nutcases, and spammers we have today. I remained there until the demise of usenet and I posted using my real name which I'm not going to divulge for obvious reasons.



POST WHORE? Again, I've been called a post whore twice since I got on the net and AGAIN, both times in this thread. WTF! I suppose I'll be called a shill, next!

Get this, Mod. I've stated numerous times on this forum I don't care about reps, vets, status or any of that shit. That post number next to my name means absolutely nothing to me and neither does anybody elses. I wouldn't care if Millard reset it to zero. I don't want or expect anyone to take *my word* for anything I say. I always try to support the statements I make with evidence and if I don't provide evidence, I make it known that it's my opinion. I don't recommend or endorse sources, and rarely criticize them unless they are sending in shills and plants like UncleZ has done, or they are widely held to be scammers. I expect people to come to their own conclusions. I want everyone to base their decisions on the evidence, NOT because I or anyone with supposed "board status" said it. I realize status is important on the scammer boards but it doesn't mean jack shit on Meso.

I admit I post here a fair bit - certainly more than I expected I would when I joined. And sure, many of my posts are fluff just like everybody else's but I have also provided substantial commentary, if I may be so bold as to say so myself. I don't claim to be the end-all, be-all of knowledge but if I can give someone a push in the right direction or offer an answer to an inquiry, I'm happy to do it. Feel free to search my post history if you're so inclined.

But, I find it a sad commentary on Promuscle that you say you would ban someone who believes and as I do and contributes what I do - for post whoring. That says all anyone needs to know about promuscle and the quality of its membership.



As I already said, my past involvement with the boards was a long time ago and is irrelevant.

I'm not really sour, I just don't like seeing anyone get scammed. And no, I've never been banned from any board.

And if you think Ben is sour because he got banned from Promuscle, you prove how out of touch PM has made you. Ben views being banned from PM, OLM, IMF, etc. as a badge of honor. He might come across as a bit of a boor at times, maybe a little rough around the edges, but he is as honest as the day is long. He's been in this game a long time and never sold out. The man has more integrity than anyone I've met on the forums. He knows this business better than anyone else and is an asset to the Meso community. I'm proud to consider him a friend. By banning Ben, Promuscle is the lesser for it.



Alin has more complaints than ANY other source. Sure, he's the biggest and draws more for that reason but the number goes way beyond that.

But you are still evading the original question: Why is Alin's feedback absolutely stellar on PM but abysmal everwhere else?

Since you won't answer, I will: It is because he is the biggest AAS sponsor at PM and PM protects their cash cows. To hell with those that get ripped off.



You just did. And mods bumping Alin's thread at PM with comments like "still the best," or "nobody does it better than Alin" is both repping and pushing. It is outrageous that mods are unable to remain neutral toward sources that advertise on their board.



I stated what I thought about PM here because you and I both know my comments would be deleted within seconds on PM and I would be banned.



YES! Now that you've evaded having to answer all my questions by using your inquiries about my past as a distraction, I'm still waiting for you to address all the questions I posed in my earlier post. You want to try again or are you going to deflect some more?

-Please explain why Alin is known everwhere on the net as a selective scammer except at promuscle, where he's considered the best source that ever lived.

-Please explain why you believe it is acceptable for mods at PM to push sources. And why is it acceptable for Andre to tell scam victims he doesn't have time to help them with their "illegal drug deals" that are often made because his mods pushed noobs towards a particular source?

-Why it is acceptable for vets to shill for sources for free gear without disclosing that fact?

-Why are comments about sources deleted when they are negative, but comments from shills allowed to stay?

-Why does PM push syntherol and tell members it actually "builds muscle," when in reality, there is no evidence SEO's do anything more the artificially increase muscle size while putting the user at risk of sclerosing lipogranulomatosis and its progression may lead to irreversible muscle loss?



You got me. I'm a crook, running from my past. I know you're a longtime mod at PM, so you've known lots of crooks over the years. It only makes sense for you to suspect I must be a crook too - like a ghost from your long lost past that's come back to haunt you. Afterall, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Regards
CBS

Regards
CBS

Censored,
So No forum
History at all. A few months in with some bogus name an 1000 post.

Was nice to chat. I have Better things to do today then bicker with some old banned member of our site.

My goodness. What a toothless little twat you are without the power of the ban hammer and the ability to delete posts. It must suck for you to venture away from the protection Promuscle and the countless bag lickers that follow the mods around telling them they're awesome. I see why you only have a handful of posts at Meso in 9 years.

And bickering, Mod... really? I simply asked you to answer a few legitimate questions about Promuscle. My questions were genuine. I made no accusations other than PM mods and vets receive free gear to shill for sponsors, which is already common knowledge,

And if you see bickering in this exchange, your reading comprehension is lacking. I asked questions that many Meso members would like answers to, and I was met with a display of linguistic gymnastics, evasion and deflection, the likes of which are seldom seen outside of a presidential hopeful's press conference during an election year.

You hoped to turn this into a discussion about me and my forum history and it has failed. Of course it was always completely irrelevant but it did have a chance of succeeding... if I took the bait. But, I know your game better than you do. You cannot draw me in. That should have been obvious by the end of my first post but by failing to recognize that fact early in this discussion, you continued trying, thereby making your evasion of my questions glaringly obvious. And rest assured it has not gone unnoticed by the Meso community.

You are an intellectual lightweight. You have nothing to fight with without the ban hammer. Your inability to construct even a rudimentary argument to support your position is laughable. But, you do ONE thing well - you represent everthing that is wrong and wicked about the online AAS business.

You have proven the point I wanted to make about Promuscle with your own words. And better than I ever could have hoped. I do find one thing puzzling, though. I always thought Andre was an intelligent man, if nothing else, but by hiring such an extremely poor representitive of Promuscle, I'm even doubting that now.

Warmest Regards
CBS

And THAT is what a digital cock slap looks like....

 

[rAJJIN]

censored board sucks = old scammer

I am trying to draw you in?
By pointing out a FACT? The Fact you are hiding your forum history.
The Only Fact that has been posted in this thread.

Here is another fact. Your Guy Big Ben here you go on and on about?
Ask him if he does any re-selling? If He makes a profit from the community
by selling products he buys and marks up to his "friends"
Do you see me doing that?? Hell no I wake up and go to work each day.

Congrats you found the only forum with no rules, and you try to rule it! lol
A Misfit handle for a Misfit forum section with no rules.
I imagine everywhere else your unwanted. Probably good for activity here though.

If you have any direct questions I will be glad to answer.
But I can see with you there is no rite answer on my end, and this could go on forever. I'm not going to let that happen, or fall into YOUR little game.

I answered your question on Alin. was there more? Syntherol?
I have used it myself. Many pro and national level bodybuilders also use it. So what?

Your trying to blame me for anything and everything you can think of lol. Guess what? there is nothing.
I told you already in the history of all my time I have never "repped" or pushed anyone to buy anything. FACT.
I get Paid Nothing for modding proMuscle. Not From BigA not from any sponsors, not from any member.

Anymore questions?

 

[rAJJIN]

Also I am pretty good friend with the best guys here. For years now.
HeavyIron,Rein,BigRobbie. (Most mods or have been i think here)
Will any of the above vouch for you?

maybe I should hit them up for your Ip. The forum mods in the community stay in pretty good toucvh with one another. I am in private forum you have never known or heard of you one year rookie Putz!
Do you use a Hide my ass or TOR IP?

 

[Stretch]

Re: censored board sucks = old scammer

I am trying to draw you in?
By pointing out a FACT? The Fact you are hiding your forum history.
The Only Fact that has been posted in this thread.

Here is another fact. Your Guy Big Ben here you go on and on about?
Ask him if he does any re-selling? If He makes a profit from the community
by selling products he buys and marks up to his "friends"

Congrats you found the only forum with no rules, and you try to rule it! lol
A Misfit handle for a Misfit forum section with no rules.
I imagine everywhere else your unwanted. Probably good for activity here though.

If you have any direct questions I will be glad to answer.
But I can see with you there is no rite answer on my end, and this could go on forever. I'm not going to let that happen, or fall into YOUR little game.

I answered your question on Alin. was there more? Syntherol?
I have used it myself. Many pro and national level bodybuilders also use it. So what?

Your trying to blame me for anything and everything you can think of lol. Guess what? there is nothing.
I told you already in the history of all my time I have never "repped" or pushed anyone to buy anything. FACT.
I get Paid Nothing for modding proMuscle. Not From BigA not from any sponsors, not from any member.

Anymore questions?

I will let CBS handle most of the garbage your spouting off here. I honestly see Rajjin's side on some of the points here. But only a few.

Your comments on BB69 are bullshit. Straw-man arguing at it's finest. Who cares if Ben sells one product to people he trusts? Not me. I would only care if he was profiting through dishonesty. Most of the Vets already know. It's not like he hides it in a deceitful way. He hides it in a smart way.

Point is, all the vets know, and we are watching. Let Ben go on and start bashing anyone else, who sells the same thing he does, in order to start increasing his own business, and watch what happens. We would burn him to the ground.

Because this is MesoRx. The largest board where truth and transparency dominate discussion.

 

[TheHamburglar]

threatening to get his IP not only makes you look like a pussy, but it also tarnishes the reputations of the vets you just named by insinuating they would partake in such activities.

So why do people trust you again?

 

[rAJJIN]

My point is he makes money from the community. Income.
I do not. Zero, None.

 

[Stretch]

Also I am pretty good friend with the best guys here. For years now.
HeavyIron,Rein,BigRobbie. (Most mods or have been i think here)
Will any of the above vouch for you?

maybe I should hit them up for your Ip. The forum mods in the community stay in pretty good toucvh with one another. I am in private forum you have never known or heard of you one year rookie Putz!
Do you use a Hide my ass or TOR IP?

Are you suggesting that Reinhart, BigRobbie, OR HI would give you another members' IP address simply because you can't win an argument with him?

I will ask them....but I fucking doubt they would appreciate such an assertion.

My point is he makes money from the community. Income.
I do not. Zero, None.

Touche'

 

[rAJJIN]

Ben a vet! Funny stuff. I guess this guy with no history is a vet also.
Ill say if it came to having ben or no members, i would take no members.
Check his forum history and look at how he talks to people.

Like I said ask any of the guys above. The "TRUE" vets of this forum.
Not the Jokers and 1-2 year guys

 

[rAJJIN]

Are you suggesting that Reinhart, BigRobbie, OR HI would give you another members' IP address simply because you can't win an argument with him?

I will ask them....but I fucking doubt they would appreciate such an assertion.

I am suggesting forum mods often transfer IP with one another when there is
an unknown trouble maker.

 

[Stretch]

Ben a vet! Funny stuff. I guess this guy with no history is a vet also.
Ill say if it came to having ben or no members, i would take no members.
Check his forum history and look at how he talks to people.

Like I said ask any of the guys above. The "TRUE" vets of this forum.
Not the Jokers and 1-2 year guys

I agree. I respect Ben. I don't necessarily like him. I have been on the wrong side of his rambling verbal onslaughts, which usually contain mostly supposition rather than facts, on several different occasions. But the man has integrity, and it sounded like you were questioning that, and I just wanted a clarification.

Whether I "like" Ben or not, has nothing to do with his character, or truthfulness.

 

[Stretch]

I am suggesting forum mods often transfer IP with one another when there is
an unknown trouble maker.

Now I see.

So rather than threatening him with his actual identity, which would be tied to the IP, you were suggesting you would find out if he is/was a member at other boards.

Makes more sense, than what I originally assumed.

 

[rAJJIN]

Now I see.

So rather than threatening him with his actual identity, which would be tied to the IP, you were suggesting you would find out if he is/was a member at other boards.

Makes more sense, than what I originally assumed.

Of Course. I bet VERY good money that censored board sucks is a banned member of our site. I know Big Ben has several names there and often spamms us.

 

[rAJJIN]

And aslo to clarify... I said bigeer ben marks up products. It could be any supplement. I never said he breaks any law! I could give a fuck less about that. I am pointing out he makes money from memebrs of the community. Thats it. period.

 

[Stretch]

Of Course. I bet VERY good money that censored board sucks is a banned member of our site. I know Big Ben has several names there and often spamms us.

Maybe not your board. But he was a member at one of the big 3. That's a safe bet for sure.

 

[rAJJIN]

Bigger been has slandered my name for months now....Maybe even a year. Every since getting banned.
Just read here from page 1 on. My name should have no place in this thread.
I do not even But Slightly ever recall seeing a Humana, and I sure do not know them.

My name was getting slandered. I replied to speak my side.
I also tried to answer any legitimate questions.

 

[rAJJIN]

Maybe not your board. But he was a member at one of the big 3. That's a safe bet for sure.

Yea I am sure he is sour and has some hate for me for a reason.
I am guessing jjinsane1. I can tell he is a vet. But a crooked one with skeletons

 

[rAJJIN]

The big 3 lol is that what it's called? Who is #3?

 

[Stretch]

The big 3 lol is that what it's called? Who is #3?

Eroids
PM
OLM

OLM is on the bottom for a reason. Other than that, no specific order.

Personally, of the 3, I actually visit PM the most these days.

But I kinda feel like I am standing in front of 3 guys and you're asking me which one I would like to bend me over. All 3 options suck IMO.

 

[rAJJIN]

Eroids
PM
OLM

OLM is on the bottom for a reason. Other than that, no specific order.

Personally, of the 3, I actually visit PM the most these days.

But I kinda feel like I am standing in front of 3 guys and you're asking me which one I would like to bend me over. All 3 options suck IMO.

Often a small group on the smaller boards say that about PM.
I never understood it. you do not think there are Any good sources there?
Who do you feel is going to bend you over?