Raider and Viking:::: yes I was one that said that, It was not because of bloods , cause I never got any during that cycle, but it was because of the gains I was making with strength and size, also I have noticed even being off now that my hair growth on my face, chest, back, and legs as increased... I'm not the only one who has notice these gains other people around me who have watch me sense I first started bodybuilding years ago natural have said dam you have jump up in size and strength, also my wife has been telling me I have been getting hairer, witch shouldn't be normal fore right now... My dad couldn't grow a full bured till he was 30+ but that doesn't alway mean much though cause I have a lot of Irish and scandaniavn in me... Who know really for the ones who didn't get bloods or had other cycles under their belt up in till then...