First Cycle ever Test P and Test E

[TaoPhD]

Today was the first time in a long time I didn't make it through my workout. I upped my weight on a few exercises and I got pumps so bad I finally just moved on. I am seeing some results though. My arms and chest are getting bigger and the woman told me that my legs are bigger than she has ever seen them. So while I am still weighing 192 I think my bf% may be changing. Hopefully when I come off cycle I can hit the cardio really hard and get the gut and love handles under control.

Have you noticed a difference with your love handles yet?

 

[Beergut75]

Tao I just saw this post sorry bro. My weight has been up to 198 lately and I have had a hard time getting to the gym. I bought a house to flip and it turned into a nightmare. I've been doing my workout with a sledgehammer. It's hard to hit he gym after 10-12 hours of solid demo and manual labor.

I pin for the last time on Thursday then I guess I wait 14-16 days and begin pct?

 

[TaoPhD]

Tao I just saw this post sorry bro. My weight has been up to 198 lately and I have had a hard time getting to the gym. I bought a house to flip and it turned into a nightmare. I've been doing my workout with a sledgehammer. It's hard to hit he gym after 10-12 hours of solid demo and manual labor.

I pin for the last time on Thursday then I guess I wait 14-16 days and begin pct?

20 days bro for PCT.

 

[Beergut75]

20 days bro for PCT.

Alright. I have Tamox and Clomid on hand but it's liquid and I'm not exactly sure how to dose it. I assumed I would just continue with my HCG twice a week.

Is that all I need to do?

 

[TaoPhD]

Alright. I have Tamox and Clomid on hand but it's liquid and I'm not exactly sure how to dose it. I assumed I would just continue with my HCG twice a week.

Is that all I need to do?

Continue HCG to the day before you start PCT.

Run your clomid as 100/100/50/50
Run Tamox at 40/40/20/20.

Wait a minute, how long did you cycle for?

 

[Beergut75]

It was 12 weeks I did not start my log until I had pinned a couple of times. Thanks for the advice on the pct.

 

[TaoPhD]

It was 12 weeks I did not start my log until I had pinned a couple of times. Thanks for the advice on the pct.

Ok, then the PCT I gave you should be good.

 

[Beergut75]

Ok, then the PCT I gave you should be good.

Stop the aromasin when I stop the pinning? I have actually heard some guys stay on it to keep estrogen suppressed?

 

[Beergut75]

Pined for the last time on Thurs last week. Still getting the HCG twice a week and waiting the 20 days to start PCT.

I'm hardly eating any calories at all during the day just not hungry then I get terrible cravings at night. I weigh 191lbs at the moment.

Going to hit the cardio hard for the next 6 weeks and try to shrink up some.

My next cycle I want to BULK i never wanted that before I was always a cardio guy before and hated weights. This time I began to love weights and when I started seeing results I got hooked. Now I want to get more noticeable results on the next cycle.

 

[Beergut75]

I've considered bridging with test prop. What do you guys think of this?

 

[viking23]

I would start test prop a week after your last test e injection. I would run it for at least 3 weeks so you give the long ester more than enough time to clear

 

[Beergut75]

I would start test prop a week after your last test e injection. I would run it for at least 3 weeks so you give the long ester more than enough time to clear

Thanks for the advice. That is about what I was thinking.

So how soon would you begin PCT after the last test prop pin?

 

[viking23]

4 days

 

[Beergut75]

the clomid I have is from Extreme Peptides and it is dosed at 40mg per ml. Does this mean I need to drink 4ml each day to get my 150mg? I know that is 160 but I don't know if I can handle 4 ml of that foul tasting stuff.

 

[Beergut75]

Weight is up to 200 and I did some research that liquid clomid does require me to take 4 ml. Damn that is rough. Almost need a whiskey chaser.

 

[irishchamp]

150mg of clomid a day is a LOT! Most do 50-100mg ed tapering down to 25mg ed. I didn't read your whole thread so I apologize if I'm missing something. I've also read several studies that state the effects over 50mg don't increase much but sides do.

 

[Beergut75]

It sure seems like a lot but everything I read said 150mg. I haven't had any sides other than that awful taste and some numb tastebuds.

So do you think I can drop down to maybe 75?

 

[irishchamp]

Beergut75, I'm no expert so don't rely on me, it's just more than I've seen used. Hopefully someone with more expertise will chime in.

 

[beezil]

it is a lot. i can't stand Clomid. it fucks with my eyes... and my mental state.

150mg... would have floaters inside my floaters...
not too mention i would want to slit my wrists!

when i used clomid i dropped it to 50mg... and ran it longer... then tapered to 25... alongside nolvadex.

 

[Beergut75]

I'm taking 40mg tamoxifen and 150 clomid along with some tribulus terrestris and a few multi vitamins. I would LOVE to lower my clomid dose.