frontloading EQ and cycle duration

[UpOnOne]

Ok quick background, I've ran 1 Dbol only cycle approx 3 years ago, ran test E only one and half year ago, and another test E only cycle approx 6 months ago. Next run is test E with EQ. Have all my gear and I know how to run anncillaries. I'm gonna run adex during, and Clomid nolva and hcg post, (scalleys pct). Anyway, I get that EQ is slow acting and often recommended to run 12 weeks+.

The question is, if Frontloading the EQ, can I run it for 6 weeks? My plan was Frontload test and EQ, run EQ for 6 weeks, of course let the test run past, to say 8 weeks to let the EQ clear, and then start PCT. I get nervous running longer cycles. Anyway am I just being a pussy that should run everything longer, or can I really run EQ Frontloaded for 6 weeks and make some good gains.

EQ 400 mgs every week, test E 500mgs every week. I know how to Frontload, I've got an article from Meso in my Evernote. Opinions please.

 

[tubesox]

Gonna take longer than that for eq to clear...im running 600mg @ 12 weeks and its gonna take 6 weeks for it to clear. Google pct calculator, click the second link that pops up. I would post the link but i cant right now bc im on the cell.

 

[mojuice87]

Ok quick background, I've ran 1 Dbol only cycle approx 3 years ago, ran test E only one and half year ago, and another test E only cycle approx 6 months ago. Next run is test E with EQ. Have all my gear and I know how to run anncillaries. I'm gonna run adex during, and Clomid nolva and hcg post, (scalleys pct). Anyway, I get that EQ is slow acting and often recommended to run 12 weeks+.

The question is, if Frontloading the EQ, can I run it for 6 weeks? My plan was Frontload test and EQ, run EQ for 6 weeks, of course let the test run past, to say 8 weeks to let the EQ clear, and then start PCT. I get nervous running longer cycles. Anyway am I just being a pussy that should run everything longer, or can I really run EQ Frontloaded for 6 weeks and make some good gains.

EQ 400 mgs every week, test E 500mgs every week. I know how to Frontload, I've got an article from Meso in my Evernote. Opinions please.

i've never done any front loading. I guess I'm just not a fan. I like to have my test levels pretty high before anything is in my system. And personally I've been on my "cycle" for about 6 months. Lol. It actually keeps me leveled instead of jumping on and off. I will take a complete break in about 3 months to let my receptors clear out. Also id say to up the test levels especially if its ugl.500 is pretty low depending on your stats. Just my opinion. 12-14 week cycle will be ok in my opinion depending on age. Also how often do you plan on pinning?

 

[UpOnOne]

Gonna take longer than that for eq to clear...im running 600mg @ 12 weeks and its gonna take 6 weeks for it to clear. Google pct calculator, click the second link that pops up. I would post the link but i cant right now bc im on the cell.

Oh I don't need to wait for all of it to clear, I just need the levels to be lower before PCT. Ill run my PCT based off Scally's PCT research. My PCT will start 28 days after my last EQ shot, and 14 days after my Test E shot. Based on what I've read, I should be good on timing. I'll research the calculator tho, thanks man!

 

[UpOnOne]

i've never done any front loading. I guess I'm just not a fan. I like to have my test levels pretty high before anything is in my system. And personally I've been on my "cycle" for about 6 months. Lol. It actually keeps me leveled instead of jumping on and off. I will take a complete break in about 3 months to let my receptors clear out. Also id say to up the test levels especially if its ugl.500 is pretty low depending on your stats. Just my opinion. 12-14 week cycle will be ok in my opinion depending on age. Also how often do you plan on pinning?

Yeah I think I'll run 12 weeks or so, I'll just see what my gains are and monitor everything, hell I've got a ton of HCG on hand, so I shouldn't be worried about anything. I've ran Test at 600 mgs and up to 900 mgs by itself with great results, figured I could drop down to 500mgs since I'd be running EQ too, I'll just see what the progress is like, and who knows, I may up both.

I'm gonna pin twice a week for both, either Monday and Thursday, or Tuesday and Friday.

 

[mojuice87]

Yeah I think I'll run 12 weeks or so, I'll just see what my gains are and monitor everything, hell I've got a ton of HCG on hand, so I shouldn't be worried about anything. I've ran Test at 600 mgs and up to 900 mgs by itself with great results, figured I could drop down to 500mgs since I'd be running EQ too, I'll just see what the progress is like, and who knows, I may up both.

I'm gonna pin twice a week for both, either Monday and Thursday, or Tuesday and Friday.

I prefer pinning test more often. I pin 5 days a week atm. But usually eod on test and you could do twice a week on the eq. Those are just my preferences.

 

[mands]

Yeah I think I'll run 12 weeks or so, I'll just see what my gains are and monitor everything, hell I've got a ton of HCG on hand, so I shouldn't be worried about anything. I've ran Test at 600 mgs and up to 900 mgs by itself with great results, figured I could drop down to 500mgs since I'd be running EQ too, I'll just see what the progress is like, and who knows, I may up both.

I'm gonna pin twice a week for both, either Monday and Thursday, or Tuesday and Friday.

If you are going to run 12 weeks I would still frontload.

mands

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh I don't need to wait for all of it to clear, I just need the levels to be lower before PCT. Ill run my PCT based off Scally's PCT research. My PCT will start 28 days after my last EQ shot, and 14 days after my Test E shot. Based on what I've read, I should be good on timing. I'll research the calculator tho, thanks man!

Scally didn't suggest these early start times for PCT I know better. Why because the half life of T-e is 7-10 days and EQ 10-14 days.

So at 28 days for EQ somewhere between 12-25% of that last pinning remains and roughly the same amount for T-e


Don't believe me check your TT level I promise is will be greater than 500ng/dl EASILY and probably closer to 1K.

PCT WILL NOT be effective when exogenous AAS levels are so high.
Listen to what TS said you will need to wait AT LEAST 6 WEEKS!

 

[mands]

Scally didn't suggest these early start times for PCT I know better. Why because the half life of T-e is 7-10 days and EQ 10-14 days.

So at 28 days for EQ somewhere between 12-25% of that last pinning remains and roughly the same amount for T-e


Don't believe me check your TT level I promise is will be greater than 500ng/dl EASILY and probably closer to 1K.

PCT WILL NOT be effective when exogenous AAS levels are so high.
Listen to what TS said you will need to wait AT LEAST 6 WEEKS!

Dr JIM I think he was going under the assumption that Test E was 5-7 days half life.

mands