What is your current RHR?

[JK1]

Once daily in the morning. Though it crosses the blood brain barrier less than say propranolol, beta blockers can cause sleep disruption and I’m really using it for the epinephrine blocking effects during the day anyway. I travel quite a bit for stressful business trips and it helps smooth out my type A personality.

My BP without medication is perfect, but during the work day can spike. Nebivolol is great because it doesn’t lower base BP much but keeps those spikes from being a problem. On blast I’ll layer in a low dose of highly specific ARB and be 105/55 if I’m not careful.

Interesting. I started using nebiv to see if it nudge the rhr down but im also fairly stressed most days. Used small amounts of propranolol very rarely and it certainly does the job maybe even too much. Thanks for sharing

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Used small amounts of propranolol very rarely and it certainly does the job maybe even too much. Thanks for sharing

Nebivolol sounds like it might be just the thing for you then. Because it doesn’t hit all beta receptors and cross the brain as much, it still lowers stress response but less aggressively in the brain. Propranolol, while amazingly effective, can sometimes feel like turning everything off (including drive, motivation, libido, etc).

Nebivolol just cuts it a bit.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Nebivolol sounds like it might be just the thing for you then. Because it doesn’t hit all beta receptors and cross the brain as much, it still lowers stress response but less aggressively in the brain. Propranolol, while amazingly effective, can sometimes feel like turning everything off (including drive, motivation, libido, etc).

Nebivolol just cuts it a bit.

does nebivolol affect your HRV or "stress tracking"

 

[JK1]

does nebivolol affect your HRV or "stress tracking"

Im about to test this soon on its own. Will update.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

does nebivolol affect your HRV or "stress tracking"

For most folks, all things being equal, it should. All things that increase sympathetic activity -> lower HRV, all things that lower sympathetic activity -> raise HRV.

Therefore things like beta blockers, clonidine, benzos, barbiturates, etc will all raise HRV. Stimulants (adderall/epinepherine/ephedrine/yohimbine), thyroid hormone, etc, will all lower HRV.

The only difference would be in magnitude of effect and baseline.

 

[Liter O' Test]

Im about to test this soon on its own. Will update.

im doing 1.25mg tomorrow , will see how it goes

 

[TheBeast1]

im doing 1.25mg tomorrow , will see how it goes

Looking forward to your report.
I am glad I found this thread. I've been doing 400mg NPP and 200mg test with 2mg of reta weekly. My RHR has been in the 90s at night and during the day hangs out around 100.

I've reduced the stims and recently discovered Ivabradine. Put in an order and that's going to take about 2-3 weeks to come in which sucks.

Overall though, I feel fine. I sleep fine. I have had other issues this blast with a stupid injury (my fault) and a weird asthma flair up that was caused by me switching from a mirv 13 to 8 filter during peak ragweed season. Went to an allergist and got a slew of drugs to address that.

When I did my first 500mg test blast, nebivolol took my RHR and pushed it into the 60s. This time around, it is not responding at all to the beta blocker which I suspect is because of the glp1 agonist. I took about 4 weeks off from the reta and while the RHR dropped steadily the nandrolone clearly is also keeping it up as well.

I do cardio weekly. Run about 7.5 minute miles for ten minutes 5 days a week. Planning on doing more by adjusting my work out schedule soon.

Regardless, glp1 agonists have absolutely wrecked my RHR. As much as I love them I wish I picked up Ivabradine much sooner. When I re-up with our friends abroad, I will be switching back to tirz and passing on reta for the foreseeable future which only gave me a modest bump. Unlike the reta which shot it up and never came back down.

 

[JK1]

Looking forward to your report.
I am glad I found this thread. I've been doing 400mg NPP and 200mg test with 2mg of reta weekly. My RHR has been in the 90s at night and during the day hangs out around 100.

I've reduced the stims and recently discovered Ivabradine. Put in an order and that's going to take about 2-3 weeks to come in which sucks.

Overall though, I feel fine. I sleep fine. I have had other issues this blast with a stupid injury (my fault) and a weird asthma flair up that was caused by me switching from a mirv 13 to 8 filter during peak ragweed season. Went to an allergist and got a slew of drugs to address that.

When I did my first 500mg test blast, nebivolol took my RHR and pushed it into the 60s. This time around, it is not responding at all to the beta blocker which I suspect is because of the glp1 agonist. I took about 4 weeks off from the reta and while the RHR dropped steadily the nandrolone clearly is also keeping it up as well.

I do cardio weekly. Run about 7.5 minute miles for ten minutes 5 days a week. Planning on doing more by adjusting my work out schedule soon.

Regardless, glp1 agonists have absolutely wrecked my RHR. As much as I love them I wish I picked up Ivabradine much sooner. When I re-up with our friends abroad, I will be switching back to tirz and passing on reta for the foreseeable future which only gave me a modest bump. Unlike the reta which shot it up and never came back down.

Good write up. Hope the iva works for you. Keep us updated.

Its always a moving target especially when theres a number of variables...at least in my case i tend to layer too many things on. I've still not figured it out.

 

[Eddie.]

Looking forward to your report.
I am glad I found this thread. I've been doing 400mg NPP and 200mg test with 2mg of reta weekly. My RHR has been in the 90s at night and during the day hangs out around 100.

I've reduced the stims and recently discovered Ivabradine. Put in an order and that's going to take about 2-3 weeks to come in which sucks.

Overall though, I feel fine. I sleep fine. I have had other issues this blast with a stupid injury (my fault) and a weird asthma flair up that was caused by me switching from a mirv 13 to 8 filter during peak ragweed season. Went to an allergist and got a slew of drugs to address that.

When I did my first 500mg test blast, nebivolol took my RHR and pushed it into the 60s. This time around, it is not responding at all to the beta blocker which I suspect is because of the glp1 agonist. I took about 4 weeks off from the reta and while the RHR dropped steadily the nandrolone clearly is also keeping it up as well.

I do cardio weekly. Run about 7.5 minute miles for ten minutes 5 days a week. Planning on doing more by adjusting my work out schedule soon.

Regardless, glp1 agonists have absolutely wrecked my RHR. As much as I love them I wish I picked up Ivabradine much sooner. When I re-up with our friends abroad, I will be switching back to tirz and passing on reta for the foreseeable future which only gave me a modest bump. Unlike the reta which shot it up and never came back down.

I used to believe beta blockers don’t work for glp induced high rhr, with HGH and Reta I was in the 90s too.

After adding ivabradine it came down but mostly throughout the day. I was having mid 80s through sleep and i didn’t want that, so I said fck it and tried 5mg nebivolol on top.

Now my daytime rhr is low 70s and throughout sleep I’m seeing rhr even in the 60s. Works like a charm for me.

Sadly though, I believed it was going to help me with my shitty quality sleep but it doesn’t.

 

[TheBeast1]

I used to believe beta blockers don’t work for glp induced high rhr, with HGH and Reta I was in the 90s too.

After adding ivabradine it came down but mostly throughout the day. I was having mid 80s through sleep and i didn’t want that, so I said fck it and tried 5mg nebivolol on top.

Now my daytime rhr is low 70s and throughout sleep I’m seeing rhr even in the 60s. Works like a charm for me.

Sadly though, I believed it was going to help me with my shitty quality sleep but it doesn’t.

Go figure after I spend 200$ on a bunch of drugs I decided to up my nebivolol to 5mg.

And now my RHR is staying in the 90s far more consistently even with effort. Curious saw a huge drop in blood pressure which was already done(120s/high 70s) into the 115/65 today.

I didn't split my reta dose like I normally do though so the efforts of the drug wearing off beyond the middle of the week can definitely be a thing.

Good write up. Hope the iva works for you. Keep us updated.

Its always a moving target especially when theres a number of variables...at least in my case i tend to layer too many things on. I've still not figured it out.

Always is right? Our bodies can be so stubborn at times.

At least it's in a better range right now.