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531 IGF off 2iu, must be nice lolTU -250 / Wk for 60 days
Blue Top HGH 2iu/night for 60 days
209 baseline. No sides. No water retention, nothing.Jesus dude absolutely insane shit. Do you know your baseline? I just wonder if you have any side effects from being at 500?
I was actually about to post the same thing, was curious myself lolAnyone use any of their old stopper/caps NPP vials? Looking to grab some when there’s a sale going on soon.
Yea I grabbed a few and since I’m using it for my current cycle the old stoppers aren’t an issue for me. I actually prefer it because it doesn’t bend the 30g needle I use. The new stoppers are solid but it makes it kind of dull for injection. If you’re gonna use it soon I’d pick up a few.Anyone use any of their old stopper/caps NPP vials? Looking to grab some when there’s a sale going on soon.
Definitely going to stock up. Thanks for the reply!Yea I grabbed a few and since I’m using it for my current cycle the old stoppers aren’t an issue for me. I actually prefer it because it doesn’t bend the 30g needle I use. The new stoppers are solid but it makes it kind of dull for injection. If you’re gonna use it soon I’d pick up a few.
Most of the time these oils get re-filtered a few times just to be safe, so the oil itself usually isn’t the main issue. The bigger problem tends to be what’s actually inside the carrier oil. EO shows up fairly often, and that’s what usually causes allergic reactions, nasty pip, inflammation, redness, and that classic “why did I do this” moment after pinning.I was skimming thru this thread and there was some members bringing up testing showing Primal was re selling Chinese primo. I get that people were annoyed because they were told that primo was made from old raws and isn't just Chinese oil.
My question is, if that primo was from the 3 letter Chinese sellers and was simply re bottled and label slapped on, is that oil safe to use? If not, how come I don't see more people reporting issues with the Chinese primo in the 3 letter Chinese vendor threads?
The lying was the issue. He went out of the way to tell a story that was later proven wrong. Afterwards he owned up to it. For me and I think most people it wouldn't of been an issue if he just said what he was doing. But the lying was kinda fucked up.I was skimming thru this thread and there was some members bringing up testing showing Primal was re selling Chinese primo. I get that people were annoyed because they were told that primo was made from old raws and isn't just Chinese oil.
My question is, if that primo was from the 3 letter Chinese sellers and was simply re bottled and label slapped on, is that oil safe to use? If not, how come I don't see more people reporting issues with the Chinese primo in the 3 letter Chinese vendor threads?
Primal is brand new. Less than a year old. There may be over 800 pages here but there's almost zero substance on May of the posts. You have a couple of guys who lost 50 times a day and contribute nothing while also not buying anything from sources so they have no idea if the geat is actually good to go or not. They just drone on about flasks and stoppers as if Primals problems as a source aren't much bigger. Pretty easy to point out these guys outThe fact that a brand new start up vendor can get it right and Primals shit keeps coming in under-dosed is fucking embarrassing and very telling.
What nonsense are you on about? I have years of Primal gear. It's frustrating when the testing comes back off. I have to go back through and relabel the dosage so I won't forget what's what a year or two from now. It's sloppy. And unprofessional. And that's coming from someone that likes Primal.Primal is brand new. Less than a year old. There may be over 800 pages here but there's almost zero substance on May of the posts. You have a couple of guys who lost 50 times a day and contribute nothing while also not buying anything from sources so they have no idea if the geat is actually good to go or not. They just drone on about flasks and stoppers as if Primals problems as a source aren't much bigger. Pretty easy to point out these guys out. You'd have to be unemployed and never go to the gym to post as much as some people do on here.
God damn. Almost 2 months and still absolutely fucking lost.Primal is brand new. Less than a year old. There may be over 800 pages here but there's almost zero substance on May of the posts. You have a couple of guys who lost 50 times a day and contribute nothing while also not buying anything from sources so they have no idea if the geat is actually good to go or not. They just drone on about flasks and stoppers as if Primals problems as a source aren't much bigger. Pretty easy to point out these guys out. You'd have to be unemployed and never go to the gym to post as much as some people do on here.
Thanks for the response. EO seems to be the culprit in many Chinese oils that gives people issues? I got a good bit of the Chinese primo, and I've never used any oil containing EO. I'm used to using MCT or GSO oils only. I'd be pissed if I'm such a wimp that EO negatively effects me when plenty use it without issue. HahaMost of the time these oils get re-filtered a few times just to be safe, so the oil itself usually isn’t the main issue. The bigger problem tends to be what’s actually inside the carrier oil. EO shows up fairly often, and that’s what usually causes allergic reactions, nasty pip, inflammation, redness, and that classic “why did I do this” moment after pinning.
That said, only a smaller percentage of people seem to react badly, which is why you don’t see nonstop horror stories in those threads. Plenty of guys run these oils with zero issues and never post because nothing exciting happened.
So is it safe for everyone? Probably not. Is it fine for most people? Based on how many keep using it without problems, it seems so.
Some people get a rise in their hsCRP from EO. Others get injection site issues. I’ve never had an issue and I find EO actually improves the quality of high conc gear at making it less painful and smoother. The issue with the finished Chinese oils isn’t the EO as much as it is the low quality MCT / “other” carrier oils. Again tho, these oils are used widely throughout the world and the three letter Chinese vendors are wiping the floor with their competition. Their products are accurately (usually over) dosed and cheap. It’s not my cup of tea unless it’s an emergency, which it never is, but the EO isn’t the devil.Thanks for the response. EO seems to be the culprit in many Chinese oils that gives people issues? I got a good bit of the Chinese primo, and I've never used any oil containing EO. I'm used to using MCT or GSO oils only. I'd be pissed if I'm such a wimp that EO negatively effects me when plenty use it without issue. Haha
You made a great point. Where is all the horror stories if the EO containing primo/oils where it's just knotting people up with softball size lumps and other nasty PIP effects? The lack of horror stories does sound like most use it without issue.
@primal
Would you consider carrying a kit of glutathione? You got those pharma single vials of gluta which is good stuff. Would like to get a kit though.
Thanks for the response. EO seems to be the culprit in many Chinese oils that gives people issues? I got a good bit of the Chinese primo, and I've never used any oil containing EO. I'm used to using MCT or GSO oils only. I'd be pissed if I'm such a wimp that EO negatively effects me when plenty use it without issue. Haha
Sometimes, a pimp has to pimp!...
Would you cook with food grade oils kept for 2 years? 1 year? But injecting it? No problem. Not a wimp!
It wasnt from a primal but ive used some oil with EO and it blew. I didnt get lumps but had constant PIP that effected my range of motion in whatever site I pinned. Basically was so bad I wasn't able to train properly basically making the gear pointless. Ive never felt pain in my legs as bad as when I pinned this stuff with EO. Lasted 2 weeks until I got a different product lolThanks for the response. EO seems to be the culprit in many Chinese oils that gives people issues? I got a good bit of the Chinese primo, and I've never used any oil containing EO. I'm used to using MCT or GSO oils only. I'd be pissed if I'm such a wimp that EO negatively effects me when plenty use it without issue. Haha
You made a great point. Where is all the horror stories if the EO containing primo/oils where it's just knotting people up with softball size lumps and other nasty PIP effects? The lack of horror stories does sound like most use it without issue.
@primal
Would you consider carrying a kit of glutathione? You got those pharma single vials of gluta which is good stuff. Would like to get a kit though. Those 10,000 IU HCG look good too.
I was skimming thru this thread and there was some members bringing up testing showing Primal was re selling Chinese primo. I get that people were annoyed because they were told that primo was made from old raws and isn't just Chinese oil.
My question is, if that primo was from the 3 letter Chinese sellers and was simply re bottled and label slapped on, is that oil safe to use? If not, how come I don't see more people reporting issues with the Chinese primo in the 3 letter Chinese vendor threads?
