potential pituitary tumor?

jtmoy19607

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I have a little white spot on an mri of the brain...not sure if it is pituitary tumor or somethign else. report reads....precise etiology is indeterminate, not your usualy microadenoma, maybe prior microadenoma with prior hemorrhage may be considered, an extremely rare intrapituitary craniopharynigioma may be considered.

Primary doc...seems to think it is nada since it hasn't grown in 3 months. 4 mm it is very small.

see endocrinologist in a month
 
I have a little white spot on an mri of the brain...not sure if it is pituitary tumor or somethign else. report reads....precise etiology is indeterminate, not your usualy microadenoma, maybe prior microadenoma with prior hemorrhage may be considered, an extremely rare intrapituitary craniopharynigioma may be considered.

Primary doc...seems to think it is nada since it hasn't grown in 3 months. 4 mm it is very small.

see endocrinologist in a month

So you had two MRIs 3 mths apart?
Got any labs?
What led up to this?
Hx of vascular issues or tumors in the family?
Its hard to argue with a radiologist- they know their shit.
 
Do not look for trouble! You might just find it. More than likely, it is nothing to be worried about.


King JT, Jr., Justice AC, Aron DC. Management of incidental pituitary microadenomas: a cost-effectiveness analysis. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1997;82(11):3625-32. http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/82/11/3625 (Management of Incidental Pituitary Microadenomas: A Cost-Effectiveness Analysis -- King et al. 82 (11): 3625 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism)

The objective of this study was to compare the cost-effectiveness of four management strategies for a patient with an incidentally discovered asymptomatic pituitary microadenoma. A decision analytic Markov model was used to determine the incremental cost-effectiveness of four clinical management strategies: 1) expectant management, 2) PRL screening, 3) an endocrine screening panel (PRL, insulin-like growth factor I, and 1-mg dexamethasone suppression test), and 4) magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) follow-up. The model incorporated the natural history of incidental microadenomas, test characteristics, pharmacological and surgical treatment outcomes, patient's quality of life, discounting, and the costs of hormone testing, bromocriptine, MRIs, hospitalization for surgery, and physician services. PRL screening, endocrine screening panel, and MRI follow-up all provided slightly greater quality-adjusted survival than expectant management, but the costs increased disproportionately more than the benefits. The incremental cost per quality-adjusted life year for PRL screening is $1,428, and that for the endocrine screening panel is $69,495. These results are most sensitive to patient anxiety about the microadenoma; increased anxiety shifts the recommended strategy to the endocrine screening panel. We conclude that in patients with an incidental asymptomatic pituitary microadenoma, a single PRL test may be the most cost-effective management strategy.


Serhal D, Weil RJ, Hamrahian AH. Evaluation and management of pituitary incidentalomas. Cleve Clin J Med 2008;75(11):793-801. Evaluation and management of pituitary incidentalomas — Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine

A surprising number of apparently healthy people harbor unsuspected pituitary tumors, which are being discovered incidentally on computed tomography (CT) or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) performed for other reasons. The majority can be safely observed; for others, medical therapy or surgical resection is necessary. In this article we outline our approach.


Aron DC, Howlett TA. Pituitary incidentalomas. Endocrinol Metab Clin North Am 2000;29(1):205-21. Pituitary incidentalomas. [Endocrinol Metab Clin North Am. 2000] - PubMed result

The optimal strategy for hormonal screening of a patient with any incidentally discovered pituitary mass is unknown. The authors' review of the endocrinologic literature supports the view that such patients are at slightly increased risk for morbidity and mortality. This risk implies a benefit of early diagnosis for at least for some of the disorders, suggesting the importance of case finding. Nevertheless, the data in Table 1 illustrate that clinically diagnosed hormone-secreting pituitary tumors are far less common than incidentalomas. Clinically, one cannot accurately determine the approximately 0.5% of patients with incidentaloma who are at increased risk among the vast majority who are not. Given the limitations of diagnostic tests, effective hormonal screening requires a sufficiently high pretest probability to limit the number of false-positive results. This condition is met to varying degrees in the patient with a small incidentally discovered pituitary mass but no signs or symptoms of hormone excess. Even the more common lesions, such as prolactinoma, are relatively rare. [table: see text] Subjecting patients to unnecessary testing and treatment is associated with risk. In addition to its initial cost, testing may result in further expense and harm as false-positive results are pursued, producing the "cascade effect" described by Mold and Stein as a "chain of events (which) tends to proceed with increasing momentum, so that the further it progresses the more difficult it is to stop." The extensive evaluations performed for some patients with incidentally discovered masses may reflect the unwillingness of many physicians to accept uncertainty, even in the case of an extremely unlikely diagnosis. This unwillingness may be driven, in part, by fear of potential malpractice liability, the failure to appreciate the influence of prevalence data on the interpretation of diagnostic testing, or other factors. The major justification for further evaluation of these patients is not so much to avoid morbidity and mortality for the rare patient who truly is at increased risk but to reassure patients in whom further testing is negative and the physician. Physicians must take care not to create inappropriate anxiety in patients by overemphasizing the importance of an incidental finding unless it is associated with a realistic clinical risk. The authors' recommendations are based on currently available information to minimize the untoward effects of the cascade. As evidence accumulates, these recommendations may need to be revised. The benefit of the diagnosis of an adrenal or pituitary disorder must be considered in the context of the patient's overall condition. Additional studies are needed to analyze the clinical utility of hormonal screening for these common radiologic findings. Data from these studies can be used to identify critical gaps in knowledge and to adopt the epidemiologic methods of evaluation of evidence that have been applied to preventive measures. One must be careful to recognize lead-time bias, in which survival can appear to be lengthened when screening simply advances the time of diagnosis, lengthening the period of time between diagnosis and death without any true prolongation of life; and length bias, which refers to the tendency of screening to detect a disproportionate number of cases of slowly progressive disease and to miss aggressive cases that, by virtue of rapid progression, are present in the population only briefly. Physicians must avoid the pitfalls of overestimation of disease prevalence and of the benefits of therapy resulting from advances in diagnostic imaging. Clinical judgment based on the best available evidence should be complemented and not replaced by laboratory data.
 
Pretty sure youre rite but you gotta admit that health concerns are what keeps this place alive.
 
all prolactin is normal...lh and fsh are borderline low....but testosterone is also borderline low....why the mri of brain test? cause I have had hypothalamus hypogonadism for years and but 10 years ago pituitary was not discovered.
 
to have anything wrong with the pituitary then....I now have headaches and I never, ever get them.

both clomid and gnrh stimulation tests show my system isn't restarting...
 

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