10 ui GH per day

[DinoBB76]

Good morning

Help if anyone has already had experience with this

I started about 10 days ago on 10UI of GH QSC daily, I immediately noticed muscle fullness and extreme PUMP during training; the only side effect I know is swelling in the eyes and face, probably linked to blood sugar levels

given that I have divided the GH into 2 assumptions

morning 6:30AM 5IU, 40 minutes fasted cardio
8:00 AM 8 IU Humalog with breakfast (160 rice flour + banana + egg white)

other dose before bed 5 IU GH


Is it possible that I need to raise the insulin dose to regulate blood sugar levels or is the swelling an effect not linked to blood sugar levels? The GH has already given excellent feedback for the short time it has been used, if there was a method to resolve retention on the eyes and face it would be perfect

 

[AbstractMind]

You just started at 10?

 

[DinoBB76]

You just started at 10?

I hadn't used GH for 2 years, I decided to reintroduce it now that I have more financial possibilities, keep it for at least 1 year and evaluate

in the past I have always used 6/8/10 units, generics and genotropin norditropin (assuming that even with pharmaceuticals there was water retention)

 

[Juicedhead]

Its not from blood sugar. Idk ive never heard of that, QSC is questionable in my opinion. Who knows whats in that.

 

[DinoBB76]

Its not from blood sugar. Idk ive never heard of that, QSC is questionable in my opinion. Who knows whats in that.

if you look at the experiences they are all positive, I myself can say that I have still experienced fullness and pump in training despite the short time, classic effect that GH gives, I look full 24 hours a day

Maybe it's related to the dimer

but according to the analyzes it is not contained (then ok each batch is different), the only solution at this point is to manage salt/potassium/water better

 

[Palifter]

Doesn’t sound like blood sugar related issues. A glucometer could easily confirm this.

Even if you’ve used 10iu in the past, it’s not the best idea to jump right back into that dose. I’ve found a lot of GH related sides can be mitigated by reintroducing slowly.

 

[DinoBB76]

Doesn’t sound like blood sugar related issues. A glucometer could easily confirm this.

Even if you’ve used 10iu in the past, it’s not the best idea to jump right back into that dose. I’ve found a lot of GH related sides can be mitigated by reintroducing slowly.

You therefore advise me to start perhaps with 3+3 units

In your experience, is splitting the dose better than doing a single daily dose?

 

[Juicedhead]

Maybe start at 5iu and titrate up? Maybe its just from the flood of gh causes the water retention.

 

[Country Club Hero]

My face would probably get puffy too if I went from zero IU’s of GH to 10 IU.

sounds to me like water retention from the drastic increase of GH in your system. It even happens to me if I go from zero straight to 5iu.

 

[Palifter]

You therefore advise me to start perhaps with 3+3 units

In your experience, is splitting the dose better than doing a single daily dose?

I would start at 3-5iu and go up 1iu per week until your desired dose.

As for dosing frequency, it depends on the goal I guess. For maximum lipolysis, smaller and more frequent dosing is ideal. I personally like doing a large bolus dose post workout for simplicity. Never noticed a difference in dosing protocol so I get it in when it’s easiest.

 

[BrockSamson42]

Tbh man 6-7 iu will give the same results... assuming the Purity is above 95%. Diminished returns after 7iu.

 

[Juicedhead]

Tbh man 6-7 iu will give the same results... assuming the Purity is above 95%. Diminished returns after 7iu.

agreed. 10iu is kind of high. I once had the money to run large amounts of gh and I actually stayed at 10iu only for a few weeks cuz the sides.

 

[buzzingonaas]

man even 0 to 4 right away for me causes puffiness and edema. I go to 4 for a few weeks then 5 for a few weeks then 6, just very slowly

 

[Nilatac]

How many kg did you put since you started? I believe it's water retention.
My blood glucose it wouldn't be on my check list for a cause of face swelling in 10 days since I start gh at 10 i.u but just water being hold.

 

[DinoBB76]

How many kg did you put since you started? I believe it's water retention.
My blood glucose it wouldn't be on my check list for a cause of face swelling in 10 days since I start gh at 10 i.u but just water being hold.

4kg but the strange thing is that my ankles, hands and feet are not swollen, it's just my face and eyes a little, given that I have always continued with my standard diet (700 carbs / 200 pro / 50 fat)

my abdomen is also always visible without swelling or retention

 

[rx3355]

agreed. 10iu is kind of high. I once had the money to run large amounts of gh and I actually stayed at 10iu only for a few weeks cuz the sides.

It's not at all high. They give 18iu to people with AIDs pretty regularly

 

[rx3355]

Tbh man 6-7 iu will give the same results... assuming the Purity is above 95%. Diminished returns after 7iu.

I'd love to see an article that shows there are diminishing returns past 7iu. I find that extremely hard to believe

 

[biggerben69]

It's not at all high. They give 18iu to people with AIDs pretty regularly

Your comparing USA Pharm Grade GH to Chinese generics. I cruise on 6iu's of Serostim year round. I've run 9iu's/ed for 3 months at a time with no carpal tunnel and no strange bloating in the face and eyes only.

I last was forced to come off all GH and gear in 2018 for 10 months. I got home in the Summer of 2019 and jumped back on with 6iu's of Serostim/ed with no negative sides. No lethargy, cts, edema, nothing. Very few can say that about their experience with generics. I hear it all the time with Serostim.

Also, the small % of HIV patients with a script for Serostim aren't instructed to inj 18iu's of Seros/ed. They are instructed to take a # of iu's based on their weight and other indicators taken into consideration and then instructed to discard the remaining Serostim in each vial.

 

[rx3355]

Your comparing USA Pharm Grade GH to Chinese generics. I cruise on 6iu's of Serostim year round. I've run 9iu's/ed for 3 months at a time with no carpal tunnel and no strange bloating in the face and eyes only.

I last was forced to come off all GH and gear in 2018 for 10 months. I got home in the Summer of 2019 and jumped back on with 6iu's of Serostim/ed with no negative sides. No lethargy, cts, edema, nothing. Very few can say that about their experience with generics. I hear it all the time with Serostim.

Also, the small % of HIV patients with a script for Serostim aren't instructed to inj 18iu's of Seros/ed. They are instructed to take a # of iu's based on their weight and other indicators taken into consideration and then instructed to discard the remaining Serostim in each vial.

I wasn't comparing sides I was compared dosages. Yes. 0.1 mg/kg of body weight per day (average dosage, 6 mg/d)

Recombinant human growth hormone in patients with HIV-associated wasting. A randomized, placebo-controlled trial. Serostim Study Group - PubMed

Treatment with growth hormone increases body weight, lean body mass, and treadmill work output and appears to be a safe and potentially effective therapy in patients with HIV-associated wasting.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Juicedhead]

I wasn't comparing sides I was compared dosages. Yes. 0.1 mg/kg of body weight per day (average dosage, 6 mg/d)

Recombinant human growth hormone in patients with HIV-associated wasting. A randomized, placebo-controlled trial. Serostim Study Group - PubMed

Treatment with growth hormone increases body weight, lean body mass, and treadmill work output and appears to be a safe and potentially effective therapy in patients with HIV-associated wasting.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

yeah but thats for people with hiv... Its like the anadrol dosing for kids with enema is way higher than a bodybuilder would use. Its hard to compare the two because those people are fucking dying.