Graikas
Banned
I have wrote before why. Practice is 12-16week for deca,npp 8-10week because decanote esther kick you after 4-6 week
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Anabolic Steroids
12 Week Protocol - All GoodLyfe AAS
JackSkel
Member
You are over-simplifying it.
Long ester is in his system. Deca has a half-life of 6-15 days (depending on reference). It doesn’t take 4-6 weeks to “start working”. It starts working when you inject it. It takes 4-6 weeks to reach serum saturation levels. But it doesn’t STOP working when you stop injecting.
He is injecting 400 mg for 6 weeks. It’ll reach serum saturation levels. Then after the final shot it’ll continue to work for at least the one to two week half-life.
TexasT
Member
Copy that. I understand the thought process behind that ideology and I think it is particularly useful for athletes (actual athletes, not bodybuilders) in drug tested professional leagues, and during bodybuilding show prep, as well.
For long duration bulking cycles like mine I am not worried at all about a long half life. As I mentioned in the prior post I may continue with Deca throughout the entire cycle for joint relief, albeit at a reduced dose after week 6.
This compound serves a very specific function in my cycle and as long as the aldosterone levels stay reasonable, I’ll stay with Deca.
Graikas
Banned
Do as you like. You just trying to discover bike,but it already discovered
TexasT
Member
NAILED IT.
JackSkel
Member
You make zero sense. Discovering bike when already discovered?
Better analogy would be “you are using small hammer to do job of bigger hammer”.
I don’t know. Both will do the same thing. You’re just splitting hairs. The guy had Deca and wants to run it. It’ll work. You’re being Captain Obvious and saying something will work slightly better. Wow.
Graikas
Banned
May I ask you,how long you gona use npp? Maybe 2-4 weeks? Try to think why is npp
Jin23
Well-known Member
JackSkel
Member
No. That would be dumb.
I’m not going to argue with you. I see others have called you a troll.
TexasT
Member
The edema is a current status and I will do an echo at some point in the near future for sure.
Rido
Subscriber
50mg of lasix is a shitload...
TexasT
Member
Well, not really. The Mayo Clinic advises 20-80 mgs a day for the treatment of edema in adults. I didn’t need to go that high, thankfully. I’m not a big fan of diuretics.
I have made a few adjustments to my protocol over the last couple weeks. Through trial and error I found the GH to be the primary culprit of my anasarca. I had reduced my dosages but my feet are still swollen so I have stopped GH entirely now. I will give it another week to clear my system and then reintroduce it in baby doses OED and try to titrate up again to find my sweet spot.
My blood pressure is still really good, but the most wonderful surprise must be attributed to Deca. I had just tipped into the Deca dick deadman’s land so I cut it back to 150 mgs twice a week and 25 mcgs caber twice a week. My sex drive is back to where you should be when you’re banging a gram of test a week. Now the flag pole is at full mast with the slightest flicker of breeze blowing past it and my refractory period is shockingly short.
Now I know why the nootropic crowd is into caber. It’s amazing in very small doses. Just a wonderful sense of well being on it and sex is like you’re in your early 20’s again as far as getting hard again and again VERY QUICKLY is concerned.
But back to the wonders of Deca. I have to tell you, my joints haven’t felt this good in 15 years. My knees and shoulders feel AMAZING. For the first time in over a decade light Bulgarian split squats and lunges may be possible for me again. This is the first time I have had actual, legit Deca and if Deca does this much magic for your body I will run it in small doses with my test as TRT for the rest of my life. I hope you’re well stocked, @GoodLyfe, because I’ll take ALL OF IT. It’s incredible.
Anyway, with backing doses of various compounds back down to nothing while I figured out what was causing the severe edema, I am kind of starting over at new, lower dosages. Even so, my weight is still holding 300-302 first thing in the morning buck naked and bone dry. I can still see a strong outline of all six main ab muscles so I’m staying reasonably lean during this lean bulk.
My body is adapting to newly added mass and my breathing at night under my own body weight is getting much better. The CPAP certainly does help with that. Just FYI if you don’t have one yet and you’re tired of struggling with breathing at night when you’re bulking. The pile of pillows that I arrange so I can sleep on either side is a bit ridiculous, but as your shoulders broaden over the years you do what you have to so you can sleep. That’s all just part of making gains in the iron game so I guess we just accept the discomfort and take it as a win.
So that’s the most current update. Right now the protocol is 1 gram test cyp a week, 300 mgs Deca per week, 50 mgs Anadrol a day, zero HGH and zero insulin.
After another week I will start with 1iu HGH EOD and titrate up to whatever dose my body decides it will tolerate. Once I find that sweet spot I will add the 70/30 insulin again.
After this 12 week cycle I’ll go back to TRT for 6 weeks and then I’ll start another 12 week lean bulk. By then I will have this dialed in and it should go much smoother.
Time will tell.
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TexasT
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5 weeks into this cycle and it’s like Ground Hogs Day - I have pretty much started over back at the beginning.
After an arduous process of elimination I found HGH to be the culprit of the ridiculous edema I had for several weeks.
I was completely off of GH for two weeks and had to run a 5 day course of diuretics to clear the water from my pumpkin sized and shaped head and from my calves and feet. My ankles were so swollen that they weren’t too much smaller than my obnoxiously swollen calves were. A week after the swelling was finally gone I reintroduced 1iu HGH per day, which is tolerable so far. I’ll gradually increase that to 1.5 and then to 2iu’s a day if my body will agree with that plan.
At that point I’m basically on a anti aging/replacement dose, and that’s fine with me
at this age and life stage.
I cut the carbs and fat to reduce calories while I was chasing down the culprit of my swelling, so I actually had dropped down to 291. My wife didn’t mind because my abs start getting reasonably well defined when I get that lean.
As of this morning I was 294 buck naked and bone dry. Just about where I was at the beginning.
So 5 weeks into this cycle my protocol has changed a bit.
Still at 1 gram of test cyp per week.
Deca reduced from 600mgs to 200mgs per week.
Added Masteron early and am running 400mgs per week.
Added 50 mgs Anadrol per day back in and will do that for two more weeks.
Added 15 IU’s Novolin 70/30 back in. It is far and away the best insulin I have ever used. I love this stuff.
Next week I’ll bump the HGH back up to 1.5IU’s.
Still running 80mgs Telmisartan a day and still not adding amlodipine back in. My blood pressure is completely back in the normal range with Telmisartan only. This is really good stuff.
I’m taking 10mgs tamoxifen citrate twice a week and that has my sides completely handled. Zero gyno. My nipples aren’t even itchy. I forgot how much I preferred Tamoxifen to Anastrozole. Really glad I went back to it.
Ran out of HCG so I’m taking 50mgs clomid twice a week to keep my ballz from becoming raisins. Also forgot how much I like clomid.
Between the tamoxifen citrate and the clomid I’m feeling like a 90’s bodybuilder again from back in the days before we had Anastrozole and HCG.
But they work really well and my body really agrees with them so if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it.
Two very pleasant surprises that I have discovered are the absolute MAGIC of legit Deca and legit caber.
Now I understand why the anti aging and the nootropic crowd loves caber. I’m taking 50 mcgs twice a week and my overall sense of health and well being is phenomenal. My mood is pleasant and happy. Sex is amazing because with the prolactin suppression that caber provides your refractory period is very, very short and you’re rock hard and ready to fuck again very soon after you cum.
No sign of Deca dick, but my dosage has dropped dramatically anyway. Certainly caber helps with that too, of course.
And speaking of Deca, the second pleasant surprise is that Deca is truly the fountain of youth. I fucking did split squats in the gym yesterday!!! They were just air squats, but 6 weeks ago it was a painful struggle to stand up out of a chair. The aging knees of a multi decade bodybuilder are sometimes brutal to deal with, but my knees feel
like 30 year old knees again now. I fucking did hack squats yesterday, too! And my knees aren’t even sore today.
Usually my joints have given out before my muscles do, so I end up with sore joints, not sore muscles. The bane of an aging bodybuilders existence. But Deca gave YEARS back to me.
My actual TRT will include Deca for the rest of my life. Low dose of test and a lower dose of Deca, but I’ll never go without Deca again.
Absolutely unbelievable.
Now at week 6 of a 12 week cycle I have finally figured out the balance and what’s going to work for me. During the remainder of this cycle I should get my HGH dose dialed in, too. I’ll go off for 6 weeks at the end of this cycle and then back on another 12 week cycle.
I anticipate that the next 12 week cycle should be really good since it will be pretty similar, if not identical to this one.
I’ll do bloodwork with Marek Health in two weeks now that I’m straightened out and back on track. I’ll post those results here, of course.
Still ZERO pip from @GoodLyfe ’s gear. No acne. Slightly oily around the forehead and eyebrows but not nearly what I expected on this much juice. Tremendous sex drive without obnoxious aggression.
The bloodwork will tell the whole story, but I can’t say enough good things about Goodlyfe right now.
Life is really good at this point, guys and gals. Or maybe I should say Lyfe is really good.
Either way, both are true.
After an arduous process of elimination I found HGH to be the culprit of the ridiculous edema I had for several weeks.
I was completely off of GH for two weeks and had to run a 5 day course of diuretics to clear the water from my pumpkin sized and shaped head and from my calves and feet. My ankles were so swollen that they weren’t too much smaller than my obnoxiously swollen calves were. A week after the swelling was finally gone I reintroduced 1iu HGH per day, which is tolerable so far. I’ll gradually increase that to 1.5 and then to 2iu’s a day if my body will agree with that plan.
At that point I’m basically on a anti aging/replacement dose, and that’s fine with me
at this age and life stage.
I cut the carbs and fat to reduce calories while I was chasing down the culprit of my swelling, so I actually had dropped down to 291. My wife didn’t mind because my abs start getting reasonably well defined when I get that lean.
As of this morning I was 294 buck naked and bone dry. Just about where I was at the beginning.
So 5 weeks into this cycle my protocol has changed a bit.
Still at 1 gram of test cyp per week.
Deca reduced from 600mgs to 200mgs per week.
Added Masteron early and am running 400mgs per week.
Added 50 mgs Anadrol per day back in and will do that for two more weeks.
Added 15 IU’s Novolin 70/30 back in. It is far and away the best insulin I have ever used. I love this stuff.
Next week I’ll bump the HGH back up to 1.5IU’s.
Still running 80mgs Telmisartan a day and still not adding amlodipine back in. My blood pressure is completely back in the normal range with Telmisartan only. This is really good stuff.
I’m taking 10mgs tamoxifen citrate twice a week and that has my sides completely handled. Zero gyno. My nipples aren’t even itchy. I forgot how much I preferred Tamoxifen to Anastrozole. Really glad I went back to it.
Ran out of HCG so I’m taking 50mgs clomid twice a week to keep my ballz from becoming raisins. Also forgot how much I like clomid.
Between the tamoxifen citrate and the clomid I’m feeling like a 90’s bodybuilder again from back in the days before we had Anastrozole and HCG.
But they work really well and my body really agrees with them so if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it.
Two very pleasant surprises that I have discovered are the absolute MAGIC of legit Deca and legit caber.
Now I understand why the anti aging and the nootropic crowd loves caber. I’m taking 50 mcgs twice a week and my overall sense of health and well being is phenomenal. My mood is pleasant and happy. Sex is amazing because with the prolactin suppression that caber provides your refractory period is very, very short and you’re rock hard and ready to fuck again very soon after you cum.
No sign of Deca dick, but my dosage has dropped dramatically anyway. Certainly caber helps with that too, of course.
And speaking of Deca, the second pleasant surprise is that Deca is truly the fountain of youth. I fucking did split squats in the gym yesterday!!! They were just air squats, but 6 weeks ago it was a painful struggle to stand up out of a chair. The aging knees of a multi decade bodybuilder are sometimes brutal to deal with, but my knees feel
like 30 year old knees again now. I fucking did hack squats yesterday, too! And my knees aren’t even sore today.
Usually my joints have given out before my muscles do, so I end up with sore joints, not sore muscles. The bane of an aging bodybuilders existence. But Deca gave YEARS back to me.
My actual TRT will include Deca for the rest of my life. Low dose of test and a lower dose of Deca, but I’ll never go without Deca again.
Absolutely unbelievable.
Now at week 6 of a 12 week cycle I have finally figured out the balance and what’s going to work for me. During the remainder of this cycle I should get my HGH dose dialed in, too. I’ll go off for 6 weeks at the end of this cycle and then back on another 12 week cycle.
I anticipate that the next 12 week cycle should be really good since it will be pretty similar, if not identical to this one.
I’ll do bloodwork with Marek Health in two weeks now that I’m straightened out and back on track. I’ll post those results here, of course.
Still ZERO pip from @GoodLyfe ’s gear. No acne. Slightly oily around the forehead and eyebrows but not nearly what I expected on this much juice. Tremendous sex drive without obnoxious aggression.
The bloodwork will tell the whole story, but I can’t say enough good things about Goodlyfe right now.
Life is really good at this point, guys and gals. Or maybe I should say Lyfe is really good.
Either way, both are true.
MikeMentzerHater69
New Member
Any new updates on this run bro? Just curious since I’m on GL test and deca rn aswell but only 4 weeks in and it’s not going so well. Was using up some left over test from King for the first 2 weeks of the cycle (Ik the opinions of king here are bad but for test I personally think it’s fine) and the last two weeks I’ve been on my GL test and I’ve actually started losing a bit of weight, been looking flat, and feeling tired. Could just be that I’m fighting of getting sick or potentially high estrogen (although I would be surprised if that were the case). Anyway just curious on how it’s going for you.
Rido
Subscriber
are you sure its not just you?
I have been on his test for over a year. been making solid progress.
If you are losing weight, do you think that is more of your diet?
You dont lose weight unless you are on a calorie deficit... regardless of AAS
MikeMentzerHater69
New Member
My calories haven’t changed since I switched to his test, I figure it’s not an issue with him and that something else is off. Just wanted to ask for some people’s experiences in another thread since his is full of dick riders. Comforting to hear it’s been working well for you.
Rido
Subscriber
I don't think AAS will differ from person to person if it's dosed properly tbh.
Infection, sterility, vial quality, etc would.
TexasT
Member
Good morning, and thank you for asking. I’m on the last three weeks of this cycle that was a botched 12 week bulking cycle and really turned into a 6 week body recomp. I leaned many lessons that I will remember well in July when I do my next blast after this upcoming 6 week TRT dosage cruise while my bloods normalize. The July blast will essentially be the same blast, but with higher Masteron dosage and lower Deca dosage.
The bottom line is that I think I jumped into full blown big kid doses too quickly and my body didn’t react well to that. I will titrate much more carefully in July so I do not waste that cycle as well.
But all is not lost. I did cut my macros while I was dealing with extreme edema and diuretics to shed that water, but I am maintaining 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight, while my carbs and fats, and thus my caloric intake, are lower.
Masteron LOVES working in that environment so I’m getting vascular as fuck as I lean out. And the HGH seems to be doing a wonderful job of getting me leaner with a quickness while I’m still holding above 290 lbs and not losing any muscular size.
Good abs make my wife’s panties hit the floor and I’ve noticed that she subconsciously can’t keep her hands off of my abs during sex now. And they aren’t even good yet to be honest with you. But the more they come in, the more she touches them. She can’t help it, and I love that. That’s a huge win for both of us.
My joints and connective tissue still feel AMAZING on 300 mgs of GL’s Deca per week. I’ll probably run that as a basic necessity with my TRT until I die. I haven’t felt this good in decades. Literally. I just put in another sizable order yesterday, in fact. I won’t go without deca ever again.
Not kidding.
At all.
I am back up to 4 IU’s of growth each morning and my hands and feet are comfortably numb, so I know it’s doing its job. Absolutely no edema of the feet and ankles this time, though.
My fasting blood sugar has been in the 90’s and my postprandial is hovering around that 140 mark, so I have just upped my Novolin 70/30 to 15 IU’s each morning and I’ll go higher as needed.
My blood pressure remains in the high normal range thanks to Telmisartan, my general sense of health and well being is off the charts thanks to caber (and probably Masteron and the very low dose of deca, as well).
I’m winding down the 50 mgs of Anadrol a day for 6 weeks and I have been taking 1250 mgs per day of TUDCA, so I’m curious to see those blood markers when I do labs in three weeks.
And that’s where the rubber will hit the road. After 12 weeks of 1 gram of test cyp per week, my free test should be well into that three grand territory. I’ll post those results on this thread once I get them back.
So all in all, this cycle has been a success. Once again, careful AAS usage along with prudent ancillaries has improved the quality of life for my wife and myself. You can’t ask for much more than that.
Enough about me. How long have you been on this cycle and what are your doses? Cridi already asked the very most important question about your food, so thank you for that answer and insight.
You’ll want to do bloodwork just to see where you are at, of course, but you already know that.
I don’t know your history, but if you aren’t an advanced AAS user who squeezed everything you can out of 500mgs/week test cycles , then 750 mgs/week test cycles, and now has done a gram a week cycles, (and that’s a good thing if you are not there yet, BTW), then you probably have a strong advantage that you don’t realize yet.
If you are still early in the iron game you will really benefit from going off for AT LEAST 4 to 6 weeks. Take advantage of the opportunity to do a total reset. Receptors, liver, kidneys, joints, just everything in general.
If you’re older like me, “OFF” would be a legitimate therapeutic weekly dose. If you’re young and healthy off means off. Titrate down so you do not crash your hormones and absolutely hate life. Do your responsible PCT and take care of yourself. Give your muscles, joints and connective tissues a break in the gym. We all go harder while we’re on cycle and the body needs a break from that. Keep your macros where they need to be. Clean out your system and start fresh in 6 weeks and you will be SHOCKED at your gains. I promise you that.
BTW, don’t forget, when you post your blood work GL is going to give you a credit for your next order, so that’s extra incentive to show yourself and the Meso community that your gear is legit. Bloodwork doesn’t lie unless the lab messes it up.
I hope that helps. Have a great day and crush your workout when you get in the gym today.
