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Anabolic Steroids
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TheOldFart
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It depends on what amount you are injecting now and for how long you have been on TRT. Also, when was your blood drawn - day after shot, day before shot, etc?
A level of 732 is pretty good, so why would you want to change anything in the first place?
A level of 732 is pretty good, so why would you want to change anything in the first place?
Bridger
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how old are you now? how long has it been since you cycled?
What are you taking currently?
why is 732 not good enough for you?
29, 5 years since I last cycled.
Arimidex 0.25mg eod.
I think I fucked my endocrine system up after coming off testosterone enanthate! I was on a cycle of enanthate for almost a year.
Pericles
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I am on TRT and am consistently in the mid to high 700's for my test readings.
This is an excellent level if you want health and vigor for the long term. You can go a bit higher, but it seems to me that what you want is to be on a full blown steroid cycle which is neither healthy nor something that any decent doctor will help you with.
This is an excellent level if you want health and vigor for the long term. You can go a bit higher, but it seems to me that what you want is to be on a full blown steroid cycle which is neither healthy nor something that any decent doctor will help you with.
TheOldFart
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Agree. If he thinks that a 1 year cycle screwed him up, think of what harm a 40 plus year cycle could do.
Crazy Crew
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You need to post all labs with values. Why are you dosing an AI and at such a high dose? That alone will cause low T symtoms.
What other meds are you taking?
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Hm, according to this well-known study here arimidex even in higher doses caused reduction in Estradiol less than 50% in a group of people.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/3/1174%29 (Effects of Aromatase Inhibition in Elderly Men with Low or Borderline-Low Serum Testosterone Levels -- Leder et al. 89 (3): 1174 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism)
I agree someone could get low T symptoms if E2 is already good, but before will pass sweet point, if estradiol is problem at all.
Crazy Crew
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You're correct I should have said that it can cause symptoms instead of will cause. Thanks for correcting me.
WindyTents
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What lab range do you use? If the max is 800 youre pretty well off. Correct me if I'm wrong but if a lab's range goes from 280-800 isnt a 800 on this scale equivalent to a 1100 on a lab range that goes from 300-1100?
A lab's range is just that, the lab's range.
800 on a range of 280-800 is 800 on scale of 100-9999999. It is simply a range decided upon by that lab to show whether you are above or below, etc what they deem proper.
feel free to correct me if i am wrong, but please provide proof against my entirely logical explanation.
TheOldFart
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I think that you might be in error. Different labs use different analysis equipment and different analysis methodologies to get a value. The value from the same blood sample can vary with the different analysis methods. For instance, Quest has 2 different analysis methods of measuring total T. One has a range of 241-827 and the other has a range of 250-1100. I think that if a blood sample gave 827 on the first test then that same blood sample would give 1100 using the second method. I might be wrong, but why would Quest have greatly different ranges for total T. It is like testing free T by the analog method and by the dialysis method. The dialysis method gives a value 5 times the analog method using the same blood sample.
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I've been wondering the same thing myself. I've had tests done using Labcorp, Quest, and Mayo Clinic Labs (twice)-- all within a few months. My total testosterone levels at Labcorp and Quest were exactly the same even though Labcorp's range goes up to 800 and Quest's range goes up to 1100. JanSz has had the same experience with Labcorp and Quest. He talks about it in this thread:
https://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/153539-how-do-i.html
The Mayo Clinic test results were significantly higher than both Labcorp and Quest. Their total T range goes up to 950.
So, I'm not sure if one can translate test results from one lab to the next quite so easily. It appears that a familiarity with the different labs might be required.
I'm sorry Dr Scally, but you were wrong then just like you're wrong NOW. "This TRT will not work"
I'll prove it with everything I have in me.
Have I or not proved every single one of you wrong? What did I say? That T level wasn't enough for me.
You get the fuck out of here dude because I just proved every single one of you wrong. I was right from the beginning. Lol
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