Steroid Overdose and Steroid Intoxication Officially Recognized as Cause of Death

[Millard]

It's a sad day today where politicized practice of medicine has trumped the scientific practice of medicine. A Medical Examiner's office in Arizona has officially listed anabolic steroid intoxication as contributing to the cause of death in a fatal drug overdose.

We can laugh when ridiculous TV shows or movies tell us that a character instantly died from an acute steroid overdose. But when the medical community starts to tell us that 27-year-olds are dying from steroid overdoses, it's not so funny.

Anabolic Steroid Intoxication Contributed to Fatal Overdose According to Medical Examiner - MESO-Rx

Maricopa County Medical Examiner Vladimir Shvarts, M.D. has added anabolic steroid intoxication as a contributing factor in an accidental fatal drug

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[irish_2003]

so it was not to to the positive test for hydrocodone, xanax, and coke.......here we go again so the media can run with it

 

[Millard]

so it was not to to the positive test for hydrocodone, xanax, and coke.......here we go again so the media can run with it

Here's the thing. The coroner originally listed drug overdose of Oxycontin, Xanax and Cocaine as the original cause of death.

But political pressure from the parents, a local news station, and state officials caused them to add steroid intoxication as a contributing cause of death - apparently given equal weight as the other drugs.

I'm not sure why the mom thought it was such a big deal to add AAS. Perhaps, she didn't want her son to be just another typical victim of a street drug overdose.

I suspect by pressuring the medical examiner to add steroid intoxication to the mix, it creates the potential for criminal liability for the doctor/clinic who prescribed testosterone to the victim. IOW, the family can't sue anyone for wrongly death because of cocaine/oxycontin/xanax. But they can surely sue Revolution Medical Center and the prescribing doctor.

This, of course, is pure speculation right now.

 

[prodigy06]

I googled "anabolic steroid intoxication" and only found links to Millard's blog. Disapointing cause I really wanted to know exactly how testosterone causes your hart to stop.

 

[HDH]

You won't find it.

HDH

 

[Millard]

I suspect by pressuring the medical examiner to add steroid intoxication to the mix, it creates the potential for criminal liability for the doctor/clinic who prescribed testosterone to the victim. IOW, the family can't sue anyone for wrongly death because of cocaine/oxycontin/xanax. But they can surely sue Revolution Medical Center and the prescribing doctor.

Correction - that would bolster a civil lawsuit against Revolution Medical Center and prescribing doctor(s) by the family.

But to include steroid intoxication as a contributing cause is nonetheless scientifically unfounded.

 

[cruel.intentions]

I saw the little news clip that was on this page:

Steroid Witch-Hunt Finds Bodies at Revolution Medical Center - MESO-Rx

An investigative report claims that anabolic steroids may have caused the deaths of three clients of a Phoenix-based longevity clinic in the past year.

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What fucking ignorant pricks!
I especially hate the father whos kid commited suicide. He is a moron, he failed as a father obviouslly; so he needs to justify and protect his ego by blaming the kids death on something that already is viewed as deviant in society.

 

[PureMuscle]

You guys have to understand that the media is biased almost all of the time with situations like this. They'll put out only what they are told to. For example the war in Iraq, all you hear about is troops dying but they never put out anything positive. Suspicious? I think so.

 

[Millard]

You guys have to understand that the media is biased almost all of the time with situations like this. They'll put out only what they are told to. For example the war in Iraq, all you hear about is troops dying but they never put out anything positive. Suspicious? I think so.

I expect the media to jump on the steroid hysteria bandwagon. But it's more disappointing to see the "sciences" do this on official state documents.

 

[Little Man Syndrome]

I just don't get how anyone in the medical community would go along with this. i have asked doctors about AS and they tell me unless i play pro ball they don't understand why Iwould would i risk it for no money. but they even told me it is unlikely anything bad will happen. Just not to buy it from a drug dealer. now i wonder if this would include pharmacies which are worse then drug dealers.
my brother has Been sick for a few years now. The doctors can't figure out what is wrong with him. they say he is faking it. one doctor told him they where going to give as much steriods as his body can hand without dieing. another doctor said it would kill him.
I forget what the total quanity was. but i remember it being almost 6 of my 10 gram cycles over like 6 hours. So that is when i dicided i knew more then atleast 30% of doctors out there seeing as how 70% of them refuse to treat the poor kid.

mind you there is no true facts in this statement. when he told me the quanity i though it was a real lot. and he just said "you really think that is alot." i told him how much i take and even he though he would seek other help. I wish there was a take home kit for that kind of treatment

 

[HDH]

I expect the media to jump on the steroid hysteria bandwagon. But it's more disappointing to see the "sciences" do this on official state documents.

It seems they were forced to do it.

HDH

 

[Millard]

It seems they were forced to do it.

HDH

Yeah, but if there is a civil suit that cites the autopsy as proof that steroids were at least in part responsible for the drug overdose, then that seems like a pretty big ethical breach.

 

[HDH]

I wonder what the prescribed dosage was. If it was low or he was taking more than the prescribed dose, that should help Revolution in the case.

HDH

 

[Millard]

I wonder what the prescribed dosage was. If it was low or he was taking more than the prescribed dose, that should help Revolution in the case.

HDH

Good point. But I don't think it's possible. His testosterone/epitestosterone ratio was 78 which suggests he was using higher than therapeutic dosages. But Dr. Scally tells me that his actual dosage or testosterone blood leves can't be accurately determined based on the T/E ratio.

Did David Jacobs Autopsy Actually Reveal Elevated Testosterone Levels? - MESO-Rx

The popular assumption is that David Jacobs' testosterone levels were significantly elevated based on a reported testosterone/epitestosterone ratio (T:E

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OTOH, it would be bad news for Revolution and its doctors, if the prescribed dosage was really high.

I know some clinics have prescribed as much as 400mg/week of testosterone cypionate. (I'm not sure how difficult it would be to medically justify this dosage and/or if this type of dosage is highly suspect/unusual in medicine. But I think it is.) Some clinics, I'm not sure if Revolution is guilty of this, even prescribed trenbolone acetate.

 

[HDH]

Hopefully they tightened up after the Signature ordeal.

Either way Revolution will be taking a lot of heat.

HDH

 

[Millard]

Hopefully they tightened up after the Signature ordeal.

Either way Revolution will be taking a lot of heat.

HDH

I agree. Even with Signature, I don't think anyone ever tried to link deaths to androgens obtain from Signature, did they?

 

[Millard]

It looks like Revolution Medical Center was one of the longevity clinics allegedly prescribing trenbolone to patients. I think Body Solutions Rx was another.

Steroid Witch-Hunt Finds Bodies at Revolution Medical Center

An investigative report claims that anabolic steroids may have caused the deaths of three clients of a Phoenix-based longevity clinic in the past year. The ABC affiliate in Phoenix reports that Brian Stubstad, Aaron Atchley and Filip Petrovic purchased anabolic steroids including testosterone...

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Anti-Aging Expert James Abernathy Linked to Federal Steroid Investigation

The federal steroid investigation involving Applied Pharmacy Services has been linked to self-proclaimed anti-aging expert James Abernathy. Physician

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[HDH]

I agree. Even with Signature, I don't think anyone ever tried to link deaths to androgens obtain from Signature, did they?

Not to my knowledge but it should have been a wake up call to anyplace prescribing anabolics.

HDH

 

[HDH]

It looks like Revolution Medical Center was one of the longevity clinics allegedly prescribing trenbolone to patients. I think Body Solutions Rx was another.

Wow. Doesn't look good for Revolution.

HDH