MESO-Rx Exclusive Bodybuilding monsters: For a bodybuilder to be called a ‘monster’...

[MESO-Rx Administrator]

@MairUnderwood(Researcher) on "bodybuilding monsters":

Bodybuilders commonly talk about themselves, and each other, as ‘monsters’. At first, I didn’t think much about this, as I thought that this was just a reference to their size. But lately I have been thinking that maybe there is more to bodybuilding monstrosity than their sheer bulk.

Bodybuilding monsters: Real and self-made
For a bodybuilder to be called a ‘monster’ is the ultimate compliment. Some might even say that monstrosity is the aim of bodybuilding.

Project Monster

Explore the intriguing relationship between bodybuilding and monstrosity, where achieving 'monster' status symbolizes ultimate success and challenges cultural norms.

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[MFAAS]

Very good article @MairUnderwood(Researcher)! I enjoyed it very much.

I personally have not been called a monster (except by my ex girlfriends) (ZING--totally joking lol). I totally missed this article. I haven't been as active lately, been busy with the homestead doing the spring work to ensure we got food on the table!

I myself am not a fan of the mass monster movement. I like the aesthetic, flowing physiques of the 80s and 90s. Honestly I couldn't choose between Dorian and Arnold. I gotta say, I'm not really a fan of the "dickskin" thing. When guys comment on another guy's Pic saying "you look like a thick veiny cock," it's just a little too muchbfor me lol. I don't see the need to compare us to the phallus, but then there was the article a few months back about the phallusification of the bodybuilder body, so it makes sense and I understand why.

I was entertained looking up photos of Eugen Sandow, the guy definitely was a beast for his time. Whats amazing is he had to figure all of it out on his own. Especially the diet part. We didnt even have any metabolic research hebjust had to intuitively figure out how much and what type of food to eat!!! Absolutely insane. What a guy. It's crazy how far we've come though.

 

[Millard]

A while back I was training with a friend who was prepping for a contest when a woman approached him and told him he "looked like a freak" and it definitely was not intended as a compliment. It was probably the most gratifying experiences of the entire contest prep and almost as cool as the trophy he ended up winning. It certainly gave him confidence and announced that he had arrived!

 

[Megadick3000]

A while back I was training with a friend who was prepping for a contest when a woman approached him and told him he "looked like a freak" and it definitely was not intended as a compliment. It was probably the most gratifying experiences of the entire contest prep and almost as cool as the trophy he ended up winning. It certainly gave him confidence and announced that he had arrived!

That woman obviously wanted him to bang her.

 

[JesterBOB]

Very good article, I really liked it. In fact, the monsters of bodybuilding show us the possibilities of the body, the fanaticism of man. And maybe I still didn't want to be like that, but I like to watch their training and their progress.

 

[Deleted member 127229]

That woman obviously wanted him to bang her.

If a man is out of a woman’s league, she sees it as a negative and will do things like this like attack what he’s worked hard for and values the most. Most people cannot fathom having the discipline to be a pro bodybuilder, So when you have stronger will and determination there will always be people who are jealous and want to put you down or say rude things like that.

 

[JesterBOB]

If a man is out of a woman’s league, she sees it as a negative and will do things like this like attack what he’s worked hard for and values the most. Most people cannot fathom having the discipline to be a pro bodybuilder, So when you have stronger will and determination there will always be people who are jealous and want to put you down or say rude things like that.

Maybe it's jealousy. They cannot do what a man who has will and discipline can do. Instead of giving up everything he takes on, he methodically goes to the goal and achieves it. And so people are jealous and negative about it. It seems to me that this is the case.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

there was the article a few months back about the phallusification of the bodybuilder body, so it makes sense and I understand why.

which article was this? I seem to remember something but now can't find it. Would really appreciate it if you could link me to it as it might be useful for the paper I am writing on bodybuilding monsters

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Very good article, I really liked it. In fact, the monsters of bodybuilding show us the possibilities of the body, the fanaticism of man. And maybe I still didn't want to be like that, but I like to watch their training and their progress.

Thanks heaps. So glad you liked it. I really enjoyed writing it. I really like the word fanaticism that you mentioned and might have to use this concept in the academic paper on this topic that I am currently writing, so thanks for that too!

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

If a man is out of a woman’s league, she sees it as a negative and will do things like this like attack what he’s worked hard for and values the most. Most people cannot fathom having the discipline to be a pro bodybuilder, So when you have stronger will and determination there will always be people who are jealous and want to put you down or say rude things like that.

I think there could be an element of this, but not everyone shares body ideals and to some bodybuilders are just grotesque. Think of how some men react to female bodybuilders for example

 

[MFAAS]

which article was this? I seem to remember something but now can't find it. Would really appreciate it if you could link me to it as it might be useful for the paper I am writing on bodybuilding monsters

I actually think it was just this entertaining thread from Millard. Not sure if it'll be helpful or not. I could've sworn there was an article about this, but this is all I can find. :/

Bodybuilding: turning the whole body into an 'anthropomorphised phallus'

So, I read a lot about bodybuilding and steroids. Sometimes I go down the rabbit hole into some interesting stuff. This I couldn't keep to myself. I had to share this selection with you guys. Enjoy! "Yet, if the penis cannot match up to the ideals of the phallus (the penis can never really be...

thinksteroids.com

 

[JesterBOB]

Thanks heaps. So glad you liked it. I really enjoyed writing it. I really like the word fanaticism that you mentioned and might have to use this concept in the academic paper on this topic that I am currently writing, so thanks for that too!

Yes, fanaticism in general always helps and answers the questions why to continue further. I will be waiting for your article.

 

[JesterBOB]

I think there could be an element of this, but not everyone shares body ideals and to some bodybuilders are just grotesque. Think of how some men react to female bodybuilders for example

Not everyone likes female bodybuilders. But I think this is not important for women. This is a special caste of people. They are, as I said earlier, fanatics and like them the same fanatics, and this is fine in my opinion.

 

[Megadick3000]

I think there could be an element of this, but not everyone shares body ideals and to some bodybuilders are just grotesque. Think of how some men react to female bodybuilders for example

But Mair, its not that she found the guy grotesque, its that she felt compelled without any provocation to come over to a complete stranger and make the negative comment she made.

Its one thing to just ignore the person because you are not attracted to them. We all do it, everyday of our lives. What we dont do is go around insulting random strangers that we supposedly dont find attractive.

Everytime you see someone you think is ugly do you walk over to them and say “your so fucking ugly!”? No of course you dont.

Well this woman who randomly decided to insult this guy calling him a freak, its pretty odd she would do that just because she “supposedly” finds him unattractive. I would only believe that to be the case if she then walked over to the obese guy on the treadmill and said “you look like a fat sack of dogshit!” Immediately after insulting the buff dude.

In my experiences i agree with 5scoops, when people feel inferior to someone they go into attack mode. Countless times ive seen girls talk shit about other girls being ugly who are clearly 10x more attractive looking than them. Women seem more prone to this behavior than men do, but ive seen men do it too just way less often as girls do.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

But Mair, its not that she found the guy grotesque, its that she felt compelled without any provocation to come over to a complete stranger and make the negative comment she made.

Its one thing to just ignore the person because you are not attracted to them. We all do it, everyday of our lives. What we dont do is go around insulting random strangers that we supposedly dont find attractive.

Everytime you see someone you think is ugly do you walk over to them and say “your so fucking ugly!”? No of course you dont.

Well this woman who randomly decided to insult this guy calling him a freak, its pretty odd she would do that just because she “supposedly” finds him unattractive. I would only believe that to be the case if she then walked over to the obese guy on the treadmill and said “you look like a fat sack of dogshit!” Immediately after insulting the buff dude.

In my experiences i agree with 5scoops, when people feel inferior to someone they go into attack mode. Countless times ive seen girls talk shit about other girls being ugly who are clearly 10x more attractive looking than them. Women seem more prone to this behavior than men do, but ive seen men do it too just way less often as girls do.

This is all very interesting to me. Was she rude and out of line? Hell, yes! A person with any social etiquette would keep their opinions to themselves. But I am not sure it is necessarily because of feelings of inferiority. People do say things to fat people all the time (well, rude people do), they even take things out of their shopping trolleys and stuff! This isn't because they feel inferior, it is because they feel superior. What I do know is that stigmatisation is worse when people feel that the person has brought the stigma on themselves - that they have chosen to be deviant - they have achieved their deviance. This applies to fat people who are seen to be the cause of their stigmatised condition. Now if she stigmatises muscular people she would also believe that they have chosen to be that way. This would make her feel more able to blame the individual for their deviance - she would blame them for not choosing to look like how she thinks they should look. I mean hey, I don't know the chick, I am just going from what I know about how people stigmatise other people based on their bodies. She could well feel inferior because bodybuilders do demonstrate a hell of a lot of control and discipline through their bodies. But she could feel superior because she thinks that the bodybuilder has chosen to be ugly. Who knows?

 

[MFAAS]

This is all very interesting to me. Was she rude and out of line? Hell, yes! A person with any social etiquette would keep their opinions to themselves. But I am not sure it is necessarily because of feelings of inferiority.

I agree with you. In the end only she will know her motives. People go through a LOT of shit in life to become who they are at any given moment. I'd say it's pretty impossible to know what her motive was. Maybe she has some underlying fetish for freakish guys, but doesn't want to admit it because she is married to a bulbous blobfish who smokes hamburgers to get high. Maybe she dated a freakish guy once and then he turned out to be gay and she was devastated, and now whenever she sees other freakish guys she has to called them freaks because they remind her of her long lost love. Poor girl. I could go on and on with this shit I just find the inital situation hilarious.

Maybe Millard and his friend misinterpreted her tone. Tonal communication is often misconstrued and straight up miscommunicated by the person talking. They might think they are sounding one when when their voice actually sounds totally different, because we aren't in their head. You know when you heard yourself over the phone and you're like...wtf who is that? Maybe that was her that day.

Maybe she's like Dee Reynolds from Always Sunny and she thinks that by insulting guys and putting them down, they'll eventually get worn out and have sex with her.

I say we can't know anything we don't know by analyzing it years later in third person

 

[JesterBOB]

This is all very interesting to me. Was she rude and out of line? Hell, yes! A person with any social etiquette would keep their opinions to themselves. But I am not sure it is necessarily because of feelings of inferiority. People do say things to fat people all the time (well, rude people do), they even take things out of their shopping trolleys and stuff! This isn't because they feel inferior, it is because they feel superior. What I do know is that stigmatisation is worse when people feel that the person has brought the stigma on themselves - that they have chosen to be deviant - they have achieved their deviance. This applies to fat people who are seen to be the cause of their stigmatised condition. Now if she stigmatises muscular people she would also believe that they have chosen to be that way. This would make her feel more able to blame the individual for their deviance - she would blame them for not choosing to look like how she thinks they should look. I mean hey, I don't know the chick, I am just going from what I know about how people stigmatise other people based on their bodies. She could well feel inferior because bodybuilders do demonstrate a hell of a lot of control and discipline through their bodies. But she could feel superior because she thinks that the bodybuilder has chosen to be ugly. Who knows?

Usually when people climb with their opinion and are ready to criticize, it speaks of a lack of upbringing and understanding that their opinion should be kept to themselves if they are not asked for it.

 

[Millard]

That woman obviously wanted him to bang her.

Maybe it's jealousy. They cannot do what a man who has will and discipline can do. Instead of giving up everything he takes on, he methodically goes to the goal and achieves it. And so people are jealous and negative about it. It seems to me that this is the case.

I know a lot of bodybuilders want to believe that all women are attracted to the bodybuilding physique and those who say there aren't secretly desire them but cannot admit it due to some psychological resistance. I don't agree. Preferences are all over the place for women (and men). I tend to believe the most obvious and simple explanation is the correct one in most cases.

 

[Millard]

But Mair, its not that she found the guy grotesque, its that she felt compelled without any provocation to come over to a complete stranger and make the negative comment she made.

Its one thing to just ignore the person because you are not attracted to them. We all do it, everyday of our lives. What we dont do is go around insulting random strangers that we supposedly dont find attractive.

Everytime you see someone you think is ugly do you walk over to them and say “your so fucking ugly!”? No of course you dont.

Well this woman who randomly decided to insult this guy calling him a freak, its pretty odd she would do that just because she “supposedly” finds him unattractive. I would only believe that to be the case if she then walked over to the obese guy on the treadmill and said “you look like a fat sack of dogshit!” Immediately after insulting the buff dude.

In my experiences i agree with 5scoops, when people feel inferior to someone they go into attack mode. Countless times ive seen girls talk shit about other girls being ugly who are clearly 10x more attractive looking than them. Women seem more prone to this behavior than men do, but ive seen men do it too just way less often as girls do.

Now I know why are the unprovoked hate and negative comments aimed at LGBT+ individuals. Seriously, I doubt that this is done because they see the targets are superior... in either situation.

 

[Millard]

This isn't because they feel inferior, it is because they feel superior. What I do know is that stigmatisation is worse when people feel that the person has brought the stigma on themselves - that they have chosen to be deviant - they have achieved their deviance. This applies to fat people who are seen to be the cause of their stigmatised condition. Now if she stigmatises muscular people she would also believe that they have chosen to be that way. This would make her feel more able to blame the individual for their deviance - she would blame them for not choosing to look like how she thinks they should look. I mean hey, I don't know the chick, I am just going from what I know about how people stigmatise other people based on their bodies. She could well feel inferior because bodybuilders do demonstrate a hell of a lot of control and discipline through their bodies. But she could feel superior because she thinks that the bodybuilder has chosen to be ugly. Who knows?

I'm with Mair on this one. People who feel superior often take it upon themselves to promote their idea of how individuals should look and behave and put others in their place even if no one asked for their opinion.