AAS for lean bulk with minimal mental sides

Did you feel better at 30 or 60?

Mast and Primo are expensive right now. EQ is not the easiest for a beginner.

Stay on TRT with Anavr and get the body fat down.
I didn't definitively have any side effects at either. I was having some ED in the 60s but I think it was probably more mental. Otherwise, I felt better up higher.
I'm on Cialis now and currently off the Arimidex. Lowered the test down to 150 to reset so to speak before trying to gain mass.
 
I didn't definitively have any side effects at either. I was having some ED in the 60s but I think it was probably more mental. Otherwise, I felt better up higher.
I'm on Cialis now and currently off the Arimidex. Lowered the test down to 150 to reset so to speak before trying to gain mass.
You can also play with dosing frequency to adjust your E2.

It does look like you have done some reading. You scared me with that reply to my original response. lol
 
You can also play with dosing frequency to adjust your E2.

It does look like you have done some reading. You scared me with that reply to my original response. lol
Enough to know that I have no business doing a gram of test lol. I still have a lot to learn about different compounds and combinations. I haven't gone too in depth yet just because I know that I'm not yet interested in jumping in the deep end.
Adding a compound here or there and seeing how my body reacts is more my style. I'm in no rush to get results. Safety is #1. I'm 37 with a wife and 3 kids. Not a 20 something looking to impress chicks.
Edit...I guess I shouldn't say no rush. After all, I am here. ‍
 
Enough to know that I have no business doing a gram of test lol. I still have a lot to learn about different compounds and combinations. I haven't gone too in depth yet just because I know that I'm not yet interested in jumping in the deep end.
Adding a compound here or there and seeing how my body reacts is more my style. I'm in no rush to get results. Safety is #1. I'm 37 with a wife and 3 kids. Not a 20 something looking to impress chicks.
Edit...I guess I shouldn't say no rush. After all, I am here. ‍
I have a bunch of kids too and anything that makes me annoyed with them is off the table. It is a pretty short list. lol
 
You could always up the Test a bit and throw in a little Proviron. You have experience with Anavar, so you have an idea of what to expect. Neither of these compounds will cause water weight, so either one may help you achieve your goal.



You can find a good bit info on Proviron here
This site has some pretty good write-ups on AAS profiles.

One paragraph on Proviron is particularly interesting:
"On a functional basis, Proviron carries four primary traits that largely define its mode of action. First and foremost the Mesterolone hormone has a strong binding affinity to Sex-Hormone-Binding-Globulin (SHBG). In fact, it appears to be one of the strongest anabolic steroids in this regard. By binding to SHBG, a hormone partially responsible for reducing free testosterone, binding SHBG will enhance the amount of circulating free testosterone. More importantly for the anabolic steroid user, it will make a larger percentage of the anabolic steroids used available in a free rather than bound state. A simple way to look at it is the anabolic steroids you’re taking become more powerful and potent."
 
That's the plan. 500 test for 8 weeks and then add in "something" else. Diet is clean, training is 2 days on 1 day of upper/lower split due to my work schedule. 30-60 minutes of cardio at least 5x/wk. Cycle history as stated consists of test 300 and Anavar 20mg. 5'10" 180lb.
I'm very much in the discovery phase though so I doubt anyone can tell me a specific cycle. That's not what I'm looking for. I'm wondering, based on experience, what everyone feels is the best compound for a clean bulk with the least mental side effects.
At 5'10 180 and just starting I would say 500 test only and put on 2lbs a week for 16-20 weeks. Take the easy gains while they're a aila me and cut the fluff after

But then I read you're 18%bf so that's not really a great place to start from. I would say lose 15lbs then start the cycle. Assuming you're not going to do that, I would say try and recomp by eating in a deficit for the first 4 weeks then shoot for 1-2lbs a week for the rest of the cycle.
 
18%. I'm able to maintain it fairly easily. Loosing is a bit harder. End goal is 13-15. Not wanting to be super lean.
Of course it's easy to maintain 18%... it's not that hard to be fat.

You're starting your bulk at a body fat that most people should be stopping theirs at.

I'd stick to TRT and cut down before attempting to bulk again.
 
At 5'10 180 and just starting I would say 500 test only and put on 2lbs a week for 16-20 weeks. Take the easy gains while they're a aila me and cut the fluff after

But then I read you're 18%bf so that's not really a great place to start from. I would say lose 15lbs then start the cycle. Assuming you're not going to do that, I would say try and recomp by eating in a deficit for the first 4 weeks then shoot for 1-2lbs a week for the rest of the cycle.

Agree no one should start a bulk at 18% BF. You're already bulked, bro.
 
Agree no one should start a bulk at 18% BF. You're already bulked, bro.
Target is only 15. I don't have a desire to be shredded(sub 10% imo) . Finished a cut 3 weeks ago. Down from 24%. Honestly I did end it earlier than planned. Might have been too aggressive with my deficit. It was taking a toll on me beyond the healthy goal.
Since then I'm up 5 lbs in those 3 weeks. 0% BF increase. Surely some water weight but I've visibly continued losing body fat.
 
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