16 week massive cycle - need help

With your previous health history, your organs have been under some serious stress and I honestly think you should run test only cycles at a moderate dose. 500-600mg. Not trying to preach brother, just looking out. I have experience with family and cancer and there will be some long-term effects on your organs and you do not want to put them through stress from all these compounds and dosages. More isn't always better. Goodluck man

Thanks for mentioning that, I was going to say with all the health issues I had I have had to go through more tests then I care to mention. I've had basically every organ scanned 3 times, had 2 ultrasounds and done every blood panel known to man. My organs are some of the best my Drs seen, he said I have no issues with them. I just have a super fast metabolism which I get from my moms side of the family as everyone is super skinny on that side.
 
I would like to hear what he is eating and plans on eating

Basically what the guy said above, "Chicken, steak, fish, rice, sweet potatoes."
I also eat a bunch of fruit (not too much because of sugar), a lot of greens (kale, asparagus, broccoli) and I do organic peanut butter and honey to gain calories. I just have to be careful of my sugar intake with the history of cancer.
 
Eq is a slow high dose gainer.. I personally have never used it but haven't heard any effectiveness with less than 800mg over 16 weeks or more. I may be wrong but isn't eq the Worst for hair loss? Like winny... Oral mast? Is that even a thing.? Mast p is injectable and is a dry lean gainer that works great with tren

http://www.anabolic-bible.org/Profile.aspx?callpage=Proviron®

Thats what I got.
If it doesnt show up, it's 25mg tabs of proviron which is called masterlone.

As far as EQ, anything over 800 apparently can cause blood to thicken. Most suggest 500-750 range from what I read. I might be wrong though...

When doing EQ, how many shots do you break that up over the course of a week? 1, 2 or 3?
 
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What do you guys suggest for PCT?
Apparently mine was wrong so would be nice to figure that out.

Also with HCG, how much should I run each week through the cycle?

Lastly, do you prefer Tren E or Tren A?
 
Basically what the guy said above, "Chicken, steak, fish, rice, sweet potatoes."
I also eat a bunch of fruit (not too much because of sugar), a lot of greens (kale, asparagus, broccoli) and I do organic peanut butter and honey to gain calories. I just have to be careful of my sugar intake with the history of cancer.
OK, excellent.
Now how much.
These are the things that come first.
 
http://www.anabolic-bible.org/Profile.aspx?callpage=Proviron®

Thats what I got.
If it doesnt show up, it's 25mg tabs of proviron which is called masterlone.

As far as EQ, anything over 800 apparently can cause blood to thicken. Most suggest 500-750 range from what I read. I might be wrong though...

When doing EQ, how many shots do you break that up over the course of a week? 1, 2 or 3?
Definatly run tren acetate to see how you handle it. Enanthate stays in your system way longer, this is a consideration if you have to bail out due to unfavorable sides.
What do you guys suggest for PCT?
Apparently mine was wrong so would be nice to figure that out.

Also with HCG, how much should I run each week through the cycle?

Lastly, do you prefer Tren E or Tren A?
 
Definatly run tren acetate to see how you handle it. Enanthate stays in your system way longer, this is a consideration if you have to bail out due to unfavorable sides.

I've ran Tren E before at 500mg each week. That won't be an issue. I can get Tren E or Tren A this time which is why I asked. I would cut from Tren E to Tren A at the end of the cycle if Tren E stays in your system longer so I can get on PCTs sooner. Just wondering what is better between the two and what people suggest.
 
OK, excellent.
Now how much.
These are the things that come first.

I normally eat 4 meals a day and have 4 16oz cups of protein/kale/fruit/etc... shake. I make one full Vitamix full and break that into 4-5 cups which I drink through out the day.
 
Hey guys, I posted before about issues with PCT but that seems to fine now so I am going to order my next cycle. I have always done 10-12 week cycles but want to try a 16 week cycle this time. My friend sells a bunch of Jintani Labs gear and he owes me enough money that I can literally get whatever I want for this cycle. I know some people are positive and some are negative about JL but I wanted to mention them as some people dose their gear higher then others. Anyways for my info.

32
5 foot 11
167 lbs
3 cycles over past 3 years

Test E
Week 1-2 500mg
Week 3 1,000mg
Week 4 1,250mg
Week 5-12 1,500mg
Week 13 1,250mg
Week 14 1,000mg

Test P
Week 1-3 1,000mg
Week 4 750mg
Week 14-16 750mg

Tren E
Week 1-16 500mg

Equipoise
Week 1-4 750mg
Week 5-13 500mg

Dbol
Week 1-6 50mg day

Anadrol
Week 11-16 50mg day

Anavar
Week 9-16 100mg day

Arimidex
3 ea week for 16 weeks

Provion
25 mg a day for 16 weeks

Clomid PCT
200 mg day 1
100 mg day 2
50 mg day 3-30

Nolva PCT
40 mg day 1
40 mg day 2
20 mg day 3-30

HCG
Week 12-16 1,000 IUs
PCT 2,500 IUs 2x a week for 3 weeks

I know that is a crazy cycle so wanted your opinions on it.
Would you adjust anything?
Add anything?
Get rid of anything?
Would you run any Tren A instead of Tren E?

Please let me know before I order everything...

Thanks
What's so massive about that lol.run that for 6 months [emoji104]
 
in the old days if you was a hard gainer you would pore heavy whipping cream on your cereal, basically eat a bunch of protein and fat, you can eat a bunch of carbs too, but protein and fat is the most important.

do not taper your doses. Deca, EQ, and Test would be the compounds I would use. make sure you run Arimidex or Exemestane daily to counter the Test.
 
I normally eat 4 meals a day and have 4 16oz cups of protein/kale/fruit/etc... shake. I make one full Vitamix full and break that into 4-5 cups which I drink through out the day.

That still doesn't answer Notits question. ;)

How much are you eating INCLUDING calories and macros?

Individual foods are irrelevant really, how many calories per day do you plan on eating? What about macros? Get that lined up first. My experience was I could up the dosages all I wanted, if I didn't get my calories in I was just pissing in the wind. It really is that important.....
 
That still doesn't answer Notits question. ;)

How much are you eating INCLUDING calories and macros?

Individual foods are irrelevant really, how many calories per day do you plan on eating? What about macros? Get that lined up first. My experience was I could up the dosages all I wanted, if I didn't get my calories in I was just pissing in the wind. It really is that important.....

Was waiting to ask the nutritionist the macros level but i know right now I'm between 4,500 and 5,000 calories a day. I can up it when I am on my cycle. What should I be at?
 
So this is where I am at right now, with questions at end.

Test E
Week 1-3 1,000mg
Week 4-13 1500mg

Test P
Week 1-3 1,000mg
Week 14-16 1,500mg

tren E
Week 1-16 500mg

equipoise
Week 1-13 750mg

Dbol
Week 1-6 50mg day

anadrol
Week 1-6 50mg day

anavar
Week 8-16 100mg day

arimidex
5 ea week for 16 weeks

hcg
Week 1-16 X IUs a month, still not sure how many

Provion
50 mg a day for 16 weeks

clomid pct (apparently this isn't right, so i need help with it)
200 mg day 1
100 mg day 2
50 mg day 3-30

nolva PCT (apparently this isn't right, so i need help with it)
40 mg day 1
40 mg day 2
20 mg day 3-30

#1. Would you adjust anything?
#2. Add anything?
#3. Get rid of anything?
#4. With orals, are those 3 good with how I have them set up or would you do something different?
#5. Someone earlier said my PCT was f'd up but still have no clue what others suggest as far as PCTs go, please advise.
#6. How much HCG should I do each week?
 
Was waiting to ask the nutritionist the macros level but i know right now I'm between 4,500 and 5,000 calories a day. I can up it when I am on my cycle. What should I be at?
You don't need a nutritionist. Just read the package. At your current size that much food will have you growing even without gear.
At least 2g of protein per of bodyweight.
 
So this is where I am at right now, with questions at end.

Test E
Week 1-3 1,000mg
Week 4-13 1500mg

Test P
Week 1-3 1,000mg
Week 14-16 1,500mg

tren E
Week 1-16 500mg

equipoise
Week 1-13 750mg

Dbol
Week 1-6 50mg day

anadrol
Week 1-6 50mg day

anavar
Week 8-16 100mg day

arimidex
5 ea week for 16 weeks

hcg
Week 1-16 X IUs a month, still not sure how many

Provion
50 mg a day for 16 weeks

clomid pct (apparently this isn't right, so i need help with it)
200 mg day 1
100 mg day 2
50 mg day 3-30

nolva PCT (apparently this isn't right, so i need help with it)
40 mg day 1
40 mg day 2
20 mg day 3-30

#1. Would you adjust anything?
#2. Add anything?
#3. Get rid of anything?
#4. With orals, are those 3 good with how I have them set up or would you do something different?
#5. Someone earlier said my PCT was f'd up but still have no clue what others suggest as far as PCTs go, please advise.
#6. How much HCG should I do each week?
Its absurd going into a cycle like this without having nailed down your diet. Run test and deca with all the good clean food you can possibly stand. No orals. Your not going to get anywhere with all this bullshit if your training sucks and your eating is questionable.
Until you list everything you eat i have a hard time believing that 5k cal is what your consuming.
 
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