1g Deca Only Experiment

[NBE]

I litterally said to get sensitive e2 and sensitive testosterone lab tests because of deca. 1-2 pages back

He asked for it, the doc didn’t know what sensitive e2 was. Wasn’t FP’s lack of asking unfortunately

 

[malfeasance]

I know transgenders bump up their estrogen to 250-300 and dont die but also dont have erections.

We don't want to know how you know this.

 

[GuerillaPete]

We don't want to know how you know this.

My girlfriend is a tranny.
Actually from a Victor Black video

 

[theotherguy]

I litterally said to get sensitive e2 and sensitive testosterone lab tests because of deca. 1-2 pages back

IIRC ECLIA can be run as “E2 sensitive” but I think it’s generally for men since men have low E2 relative to women, and therefore considered to be “sensitive”. BUT you have to run the other test, the LC-MS/MS to differentiate between different hormones. As I’m sure you’re well aware, all of these hormones actually look pretty similar, so it’s possible the ECLIA testing just cannot “see” the difference.

@Iron_Yuppie is pretty damn smart with all of this stuff.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Just got out of MesoRX jail, shame that one can get banned by speaking facts, yet get attacked with buzzword names and not get refuted once.

Anyway.

I took an entire week of the gym and let the deca get lower its levels for two weeks. I think I was also sick with something, for the 100th time this year.

I brewed my Test and I'm back on TRT for now, and will do so for a month to let all my levels go back to normal.

My IGF-1 Test came back at a mere 315, which I wasn't impressed, but then again, I wasn't on GH that long, going from 10ius ED, then to 5iu ED for about only totaling an entire month on. I did blast 10ius before the test, but probably doesn't matter.

Anyway, as @NBE stated, we are going to just focus on getting lean.

Sorry I was unable to continue as I wanted to, but I'm not gonna kill myself for some experiment. However, I did show that deca dick doesn't happen on Deca only, at least for me. My blood pressure was normal during hte entire cycle.

I have 20 grams of Deca that I will probably not use, and I will stick to Test and Primo, and perhaps a lose dose of tren for my cut.

But from now on, Test/Primo will be my main drugs as I will be putting health above all things.

Thanks again for all your feed back gents.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Just got out of MesoRX jail, shame that one can get banned by speaking facts, yet get attacked with buzzword names and not get refuted once.

Anyway.

I took an entire week of the gym and let the deca get lower its levels for two weeks. I think I was also sick with something, for the 100th time this year.

I brewed my Test and I'm back on TRT for now, and will do so for a month to let all my levels go back to normal.

My IGF-1 Test came back at a mere 315, which I wasn't impressed, but then again, I wasn't on GH that long, going from 10ius ED, then to 5iu ED for about only totaling an entire month on. I did blast 10ius before the test, but probably doesn't matter.

Anyway, as @NBE stated, we are going to just focus on getting lean.

Sorry I was unable to continue as I wanted to, but I'm not gonna kill myself for some experiment. However, I did show that deca dick doesn't happen on Deca only, at least for me. My blood pressure was normal during hte entire cycle.

I have 20 grams of Deca that I will probably not use, and I will stick to Test and Primo, and perhaps a lose dose of tren for my cut.

But from now on, Test/Primo will be my main drugs as I will be putting health above all things.

Thanks again for all your feed back gents.

315 isn’t a bad number really. What was your baseline? Did you run IGF tests on goodlyfe?

 

[Cherokee]

Just got out of MesoRX jail, shame that one can get banned by speaking facts, yet get attacked with buzzword names and not get refuted once.

Anyway.

I took an entire week of the gym and let the deca get lower its levels for two weeks. I think I was also sick with something, for the 100th time this year.

I brewed my Test and I'm back on TRT for now, and will do so for a month to let all my levels go back to normal.

My IGF-1 Test came back at a mere 315, which I wasn't impressed, but then again, I wasn't on GH that long, going from 10ius ED, then to 5iu ED for about only totaling an entire month on. I did blast 10ius before the test, but probably doesn't matter.

Anyway, as @NBE stated, we are going to just focus on getting lean.

Sorry I was unable to continue as I wanted to, but I'm not gonna kill myself for some experiment. However, I did show that deca dick doesn't happen on Deca only, at least for me. My blood pressure was normal during hte entire cycle.

I have 20 grams of Deca that I will probably not use, and I will stick to Test and Primo, and perhaps a lose dose of tren for my cut.

But from now on, Test/Primo will be my main drugs as I will be putting health above all things.

Thanks again for all your feed back gents.

Rumor has it.. you and bubba struck up a very good friendship in jail.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

315 isn’t a bad number really. What was your baseline? Did you run IGF tests on goodlyfe?

Goodlyfe was 371 off 5iu, but I was on it for MONTHS; it's almost twice the price lol.

 

[jJjburton]

Just got out of MesoRX jail, shame that one can get banned by speaking facts, yet get attacked with buzzword names and not get refuted once.

Anyway.

I took an entire week of the gym and let the deca get lower its levels for two weeks. I think I was also sick with something, for the 100th time this year.

I brewed my Test and I'm back on TRT for now, and will do so for a month to let all my levels go back to normal.

My IGF-1 Test came back at a mere 315, which I wasn't impressed, but then again, I wasn't on GH that long, going from 10ius ED, then to 5iu ED for about only totaling an entire month on. I did blast 10ius before the test, but probably doesn't matter.

Anyway, as @NBE stated, we are going to just focus on getting lean.

Sorry I was unable to continue as I wanted to, but I'm not gonna kill myself for some experiment. However, I did show that deca dick doesn't happen on Deca only, at least for me. My blood pressure was normal during hte entire cycle.

I have 20 grams of Deca that I will probably not use, and I will stick to Test and Primo, and perhaps a lose dose of tren for my cut.

But from now on, Test/Primo will be my main drugs as I will be putting health above all things.

Thanks again for all your feed back gents.

Look foward to test and primo results. Trying to get the money to run a solid cycle in summer of this. What doses?

What hgh was the test on?this tine?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Look foward to test and primo results. Trying to get the money to run a solid cycle in summer of this. What doses?

What hgh was the test on?this tine?

Was only 315, but I was only on the GH for about a month; not sure that was enough time.

 

[theotherguy]

Just got out of MesoRX jail, shame that one can get banned by speaking facts, yet get attacked with buzzword names and not get refuted once.

Apparently you just joined a pretty large club. Welcome back.

I don’t agree with everything you say, but I can appreciate your thought process, and your generally unrattled demeanor

 

[lankyOldIdiot]

Was only 315, but I was only on the GH for about a month; not sure that was enough time.

Any thoughts on GH while bulking? Did it help you put on less fat, recover faster, etc.?

Can you compare to past periods on roids but not using GH?

Basically, was it worth the money?

 

[malfeasance]

Was only 315, but I was only on the GH for about a month; not sure that was enough time.

Why'd you stop?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Why'd you stop?

I didn't stop; I only started the GH during this log for a month. I blasted 10ius, but then lowered it Jan 8th, to 5ius. I'm still on 5ius right now.

I brewed my own Test, 9 grams of it from last batch, so my TRT is 180 per CC. Taking half, twice a week for now.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Any thoughts on GH while bulking? Did it help you put on less fat, recover faster, etc.?

Can you compare to past periods on roids but not using GH?

Basically, was it worth the money?

I don't think its worth the money if its expensive. I used to pay 120 a kit, but the Quidao source here sells kits for 55 or 70 dollars per, depending on international or domestic order. That's "worth it" being so cheap.

I didn't notice much other than more "fullness." I certainly gained a ton of water, and minimal fat, when I should have probably gotten fatter, but who knows?

I'm 237 now, lost about 10lbs since I've gotten off 1 gram deca and the rest, and look pretty big still, minus the water, so I think the Deca actually put on lean tissue more so than would expect.

 

[malfeasance]

Coach is @NBE who has commented here a few times. The goal was to do a three-month bulk, starting December until March, then cut, but he thinks now it's best to recomp—being that I gained 22lbs in such a short period—then go into a cut. Of course I could push back and insist on bulking, but I don't to. I don't want to be a mass monster, I'd like to look more like a Classic guy than some super heavyweight freak.

My main goal is really to just look good for myself; I would like bigger arms and calves, and just lean out. He says I can recomp and still grow arms/calves so long as I have high days on those days, using slin to drive nutrients in the muscle and GH obviously.

No I'm not competing or anything like that; I just wanted to see what I could do with a coach for fun basically. This is a hobby, but also keeps me mentally sane.

As for the doctor:

BP was 136/80
EKG was Normal.

Bloods were drawn and now we just wait for results in a few days.

Is this still the plan?

 

[lankyOldIdiot]

I don't think its worth the money if its expensive. I used to pay 120 a kit, but the Quidao source here sells kits for 55 or 70 dollars per, depending on international or domestic order. That's "worth it" being so cheap.

I didn't notice much other than more "fullness." I certainly gained a ton of water, and minimal fat, when I should have probably gotten fatter, but who knows?

I'm 237 now, lost about 10lbs since I've gotten off 1 gram deca and the rest, and look pretty big still, minus the water, so I think the Deca actually put on lean tissue more so than would expect.

Ever consider testing out the GH for fat loss by doing a very low calorie 300g of protein diet and dosing the GH during fasted cardio?

i.e. wake up, dose GH, fasted cardio, eat 300g of protein around night, etc.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Is this still the plan?

The plan right now is TRT for a month and then going reassessing how everything looks. I'm supposed to go back to my Dr to get bloods checked again. He told me to drop the Test and come back in a month, but he doesn't know I was on Deca. So I will tell him lol. He's a family friend.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Ever consider testing out the GH for fat loss by doing a very low calorie 300g of protein diet and dosing the GH during fasted cardio?

i.e. wake up, dose GH, fasted cardio, eat 300g of protein around night, etc.

GH doesn't just burn fat, it mobilizes fat to be burned, so all these little tricks won't matter; all that matters is a calorie deficit.

 

[malfeasance]

The plan right now is TRT for a month and then going reassessing how everything looks. I'm supposed to go back to my Dr to get bloods checked again. He told me to drop the Test and come back in a month, but he doesn't know I was on Deca. So I will tell him lol. He's a family friend.

Deca hangs around for months, plural.