1g tren 700mg test prop for 12 weeks - 7lbs pure muscle realistic ?

[thinkanabolic2]

You really think Zyzz used 1g of Tren and 700mg of Prop to reach his physique? Don't get me wrong, Zyzz is aesthetic as fuark, and he was big...but he wasn't big to the point where he looks likes hes taking anywhere near that amount of gear. Again, you underestimate the effectiveness of lower doses of gear...there seems to a be a point of diminishing returns with gear, and you are well past them.

I read that Zyzz only used 400mg Test Prop and Tren Ace to reach his physique. Your taking 2x as much...you're fucking up and won't be able to maintain aesthetics without being on TRT of the rest of your life.

 

[aestheticphysique]

here is my current physique, my 3 year goal is to add 20kg muscle thats 42lbs muscle to my frame in 3 years.

Goal per year 14lbs muscle thats 7kg.

I want to do two cycles a year ( gain 7lbs muscle thats 3.5kg) in 12 week cycles.
year 1
year 2
year 3

PCT
should i stop tren week 10 and just do prop 10-12 weeks ? 4 weeks pct and any advice on keeping gains throughout pct ?

im scrapping the 1g tren , need to get some info on correct doses for my goal.

 

[aestheticphysique]

first cycle messed up but i have learned my mistake (focus on mirror not scale) diet properly.

before 185lbs
after 210

current weight now - 175lbs

 

[thinkanabolic2]

How tall are you? You look small for 210.

 

[aestheticphysique]

6ft 2

 

[thinkanabolic2]

That explains it.

Zyzz is about 210-220 lbs in his best shape/size...and what 6'1?

Somethings off here.

 

[thinkanabolic2]

Again, Zyzz was big, but he wasn't huge/jacked. He just had great genetics/aesthetics.

 

[smt71]

here is my current physique, my 3 year goal is to add 20kg muscle thats 42lbs muscle to my frame in 3 years.

Goal per year 14lbs muscle thats 7kg.

I want to do two cycles a year ( gain 7lbs muscle thats 3.5kg) in 12 week cycles.
year 1
year 2
year 3

PCT
should i stop tren week 10 and just do prop 10-12 weeks ? 4 weeks pct and any advice on keeping gains throughout pct ?

im scrapping the 1g tren , need to get some info on correct doses for my goal.

Ok, so it wasn't a total loss. You still look a lot better now than you did before your first cycle. At any rate, I still think you should go natty for a while. But if you are dead set on doing this scrap the tren for the first cycle and see how you do. You now know you need to control your diet better.

In regard to PCT what I hear all the time is to start 2 or 3 days after your last pin. I take issue with this because I just can't see how enough of the compound has cleared that quickly - especially with high doses. Unless you taper down, which no one seems to do, I would think you would need at least 3 half lives before starting. Also, without Tren on a modest dose of Test P I think you can get away with 4 weeks. With Tren I think you are going to have to go 6 weeks. But this is all speculation on my part. My advice is to post your cycle with PCT and let others here comment on it. A

 

[Mike Oxbig]

You really think Zyzz used 1g of Tren and 700mg of Prop to reach his physique? Don't get me wrong, Zyzz is aesthetic as fuark, and he was big...but he wasn't big to the point where he looks likes hes taking anywhere near that amount of gear. Again, you underestimate the effectiveness of lower doses of gear...there seems to a be a point of diminishing returns with gear, and you are well past them.

I read that Zyzz only used 400mg Test Prop and Tren Ace to reach his physique. Your taking 2x as much...you're fucking up and won't be able to maintain aesthetics without being on TRT of the rest of your life.

The rumor was he was running a gram of tren a/week. His diet/routines were probably shit.

Chestbrah is pretty small too and you can guarantee he has also been running high doses of AAS for years.

 

[aestheticphysique]

I didn't even pct it was a fucked up cycle , also more tanned used mt2

I'm thinking of doing 600mg tren 600mg prop or 700mg prop and 700 mg tren

 

[smt71]

Again, Zyzz was big, but he wasn't huge/jacked. He just had great genetics/aesthetics.

Not trying to pick a fight, I don't know anything about this zyzz guy. I thought the guy in the video was about 185 ripped. If he is 210 - 220 at 6'1 at that BF he is pretty dam big. Not pro BB big, but pretty dam big. 99% of guys who ever pick up a weight will never be that big.

What I'm saying is I don't blame AP for being impressed. I'm f**king impressed. I mean the guy looks f**king amazing.

 

[aestheticphysique]

Achieved in 3 years !

 

[smt71]

Achieved in 3 years !

Well, good luck AP. That's a lofty goal. Remember to keep it simple and focus on your goal and recovery, not the drugs. And keep in mind what thinkanabolic2 said about zyzz doing that on much less gear then you are talking about. If you want to look like him then follow his example in terms of how much gear.

 

[aestheticphysique]

Ok decided my tren dose doing 75mg ed

 

[Pericles]

Wow. I don't mean to be insulting, but you look like you never touched a weight in the first pic, and look like you trained for 6 months naturally for the follow up. You hardly have any muscle at all.

What ever you are doing, is not working. I am incredulous that you actually ran a cycle for the 2nd pic.

 

[MANWHORE]

Wow. I don't mean to be insulting, but you look like you never touched a weight in the first pic, and look like you trained for 6 months naturally for the follow up. You hardly have any muscle at all.

What ever you are doing, is not working. I am incredulous that you actually ran a cycle for the 2nd pic.

He must workout, at planet fitness..

 

[loveyourbody]

Not some zyzz post again... AP Zyzz died I think last year my brother is a fan of this guy. I don't blame him I mean he looks amazing no homo. But, he died at 22 what does that tell you. Is it worth looking like that for 2 years then die? I don't think so.
Trust me you can get those results if you train hard enough. Life and eat clean. Don't forget your cardio. If you planning on running gear. Do 8 week cycles of fast acting steroids
Example 2
Cycle 1
Test p-75mg Ed for 8 weeks
Then 4 week pct

Cycle 2- test p 75mg Ed for 8weeks
Then 4 week pct
See that's two cycles in one year

Cycle 3 test p 75mg Ed and tren a 50ed for 8 weeks
And 4 week pct

Cycle 4 test p 75mg Ed and tren a 50ed for 8 weeks
And 4 week pct

Another 2 cycles in one year

Year 3

Cycle 5 test p/ tren a/ mast a 50mg of each Ed for 8 weeks and 4 week pct

Cycle 6 test p/ tren a/ mast a 50mg of each Ed for 8 weeks and 4 week pct

That's a total of 6 cycles in 3 years AP. if you work hard and keep a great diet you can look like that Zyzz guy but remember this we are have different genetics. Your genetics will end up deciding how you look no matter what you want to believe. I hope you listen because if you don't I promise you I won't feel sorry for you when I see you died just like that Zyzz guy from a heart problem. He went by YOLO and look he isn't here no more. Use your F..ken head man.

 

[MANWHORE]

Genetics is something that was
Made up, by the creators of Muscle Milk,
Cause it's just skim milk, in the containers :drooling:

Where can I get a 600,000 volt shock
Collar, for a 60lb German Shepard?

 

[Pericles]

No, no, no. Look at an RTD for Muscle Milk. In small letters down at the bottom it will say "contains no milk" LOL.

Genetics is something that was
Made up, by the creators of Muscle Milk,
Cause it's just skim milk, in the containers :drooling:

Where can I get a 600,000 volt shock
Collar, for a 60lb German Shepard?

 

[Pericles]

Not trying to pick a fight, I don't know anything about this zyzz guy. I thought the guy in the video was about 185 ripped. If he is 210 - 220 at 6'1 at that BF he is pretty dam big. Not pro BB big, but pretty dam big. 99% of guys who ever pick up a weight will never be that big.

What I'm saying is I don't blame AP for being impressed. I'm f**king impressed. I mean the guy looks f**king amazing.

You don't have much in the standards department, do you?

He looks great for the beach, but would not make the night show of an NPC contest. Saying "the guy looks f**king amazing" could only be done by a woman or same sex butt pirate.