1g tren 700mg test prop for 12 weeks - 7lbs pure muscle realistic ?

Yeah Zyzz did have pretty terrible lats, but still, a great physique overall. Again..being the biggest you can be doesn't necessarily mean you look your best.

Theres no way in fuck his arms are 15.5 inches...mine are 16' with a pump, and even at 5'8...they don't look that big on me. Then again...I probably have body dysmorphia. :D

This is the picture I am talking about:


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I exaggerated with 20'...but they've gotta be 18.5ish.

THE POINT IS...Zyzz didn't weight much more than this guy whose trying to look like him...and after a cycle...and no PCT...doesn't look anywhere near it NOR has the knowledge to do so. For example...look at this guys first cycle:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134337622

Went from...doesn't look like I lift...to...he definitely looks like he does. Thats because his diet and training were in check, followed by proper PCT. If you don't get the basics down kid you'll lose everything you have in an endless cycle of cycles...and put your HPTA at risk in the process.

You've done so much research about steroids, but I'm not sure you could even tell me anything about the relationship between dieting and cortisol...or the difference between hypertrophic gains and myofibral. Take a step back and research how people built muscle before steroids were available, then after you can master that...your cycle will be effective.
 
Its hard to believe my arms are only 1 inch smaller than Zyzz's were after a pump...they seem a lot fuller and rounder...anyway...whatever...I'm still mirin'. :D
 
Its hard to believe my arms are only 1 inch smaller than Zyzz's were after a pump...they seem a lot fuller and rounder...anyway...whatever...I'm still mirin'. :D
His arms were pretty big when he died, I think he was 220+ cut. The specific pictures you posted though looked to be a ways before that.
 
I want to get this right so I'm not rushing into the cycle untill everything is in check

1.) ill post diet
2. Ill post training routine
3. Post my pct
4. Need advice on how to keep gains and get test levels back to normal fast.

Also I want to run those doses ed , keeps blood levels stable and prefer ed.

Zyzz cycle he did
100mg test prop eod
75mg tren a eod

I'm doing the same doses but ed, so I'm running twice as much as zyzz did
 
I want to get this right so I'm not rushing into the cycle untill everything is in check

1.) ill post diet
2. Ill post training routine
3. Post my pct
4. Need advice on how to keep gains and get test levels back to normal fast.

Also I want to run those doses ed , keeps blood levels stable and prefer ed.

Zyzz cycle he did
100mg test prop eod
75mg tren a eod

I'm doing the same doses but ed, so I'm running twice as much as zyzz did

Whats your reasoning behind that?
 
Most guys don't want to look like a national-level NPC competitor. And most women don't want guys who look like one either. What "looks great" is relative. What is desirable in the very small world of competitive bodybuilding doesn't really translate to the world at large.

I agree completely, Millard. Once you get to a certain size, you are big enough for most women (although I will tell you, there are still tons of women who like very muscular men).

However, smts' claim that this guy has more muscle than me, and would crush the younger version of me is a joke. He needs to gain at least 25 lbs before he could even consider stepping on the stage. I don't mean to be disrespectful to him, as he is dead and hopefully in a better place.

It is very likely that this guy would pull more pussy than me (although women are a little less focused on looks, and more on a mans' mind). He has a body that I am sure 99% of women like. He is also taller.
 
Zyzz didn't want to complete he thought it was gay to stand on a stage and be judged by old men whilst wearing A thong , zyzz preferred to go to festivals to be mired by all the biches and for the guys to be jelly
 
Claims of 20 inch arms are made all the time but a true 20 inch arm is exceedingly rare even among top bodybuilders.

For reference, Sergio Oliva's arms were measured at 20 1/8 inches by Arthur Jones.

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Zyzz didn't want to complete he thought it was gay to stand on a stage and be judged by old men whilst wearing A thong , zyzz preferred to go to festivals to be mired by all the biches and for the guys to be jelly

Whigger please. We have really been trying to help you, and your participation become more and more ignorant by every post you make.
 
That's word for word what zyzz said sorry , he posted on misc


OK, we are geting no where here. We need to look at what training/eating schedule will benefit you.

I may have missed it, but do you have a baseline test level? For someone your age you should be over 650. Do you have any symptoms of low T?

I have said this before, but your endocrine system is still developing at 19. It will stay at peak test levels until 27, and then lose 1-2% a year. Why mes that up? I am 51, if I want to bang my wife on Saturday, I need a shot of test on Thursday. When I was your age I was ready 24/7. You are going to be in the former position long before you reach 28, at the rate you are going.

When I was your age, I could bang any chick I met at any time. Imagine meeting the girl of your dreams and then have ed.

I am done commenting on this thread, and hope you give the advice serious thought.
 
Well guys come on now, we ALL know PC is a JOKE, HE has proven it time and time again..
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You were so right about this guy.

I owe you and CBS a long overdue apology. I lashed out at you purely out of ignorance. In time I have really come to appreciate your efforts here and the enormous amount of knowledge you bring to meso. I know I can't change the past, but I am sincerely trying to get it right now.
 
zyzz - 3 years transfomation

25kg muscle gain.

Probably wasn't 3 yrs of
Solid workout and diet..

He obviously had abs showing and
Fast metabolism to start but... :eek:
His package seems to have gotten the most growth..

I wanna know what his training for
That thing was ...

Why does batman always sound
Like he has a sore throat :confused:
 
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