1st cycle @40 yrs old.

Josh1628

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Hi...this is my first post also a new member. I am planning to do my first cycle at 40yrs old.. lol thou a lot take me for 32 35 so that's sweet.lol I am 172lbs 12 percent body fat and stand 5 feet 9 inches in height. Have a cyle that i will be starting in first week of May 2015 . Sustanon 250 mon/Thurs 500ml total a week for weeks 1 to 10... going to kick start with turnibol 30mg ed for 4 weeks have Novidex to in case of gyno. Anythoughts please . Thanks for your time.
 
It's not bad for a first cycle but I mean I would do it just a bit different.

I would run it 12 weeks. Also you don't wanna have something "in case of gyno", you should take an ai throught out cycle to prevent gyno from even being a possibility. I didn't like an idiot and the symptoms hit me fast and hard. Don't use nolvadex as your ai either.

You didn't mention anything about a pct though?
 
It's not bad for a first cycle but I mean I would do it just a bit different.

I would run it 12 weeks. Also you don't wanna have something "in case of gyno", you should take an ai throught out cycle to prevent gyno from even being a possibility. I didn't like an idiot and the symptoms hit me fast and hard. Don't use nolvadex as your ai either.

You didn't mention anything about a pct though?
It's not bad for a first cycle but I mean I would do it just a bit different.

I would run it 12 weeks. Also you don't wanna have something "in case of gyno", you should take an ai throught out cycle to prevent gyno from even being a possibility. I didn't like an idiot and the symptoms hit me fast and hard. Don't use nolvadex as your ai either.

You didn't mention anything about a pct though?
Hi...what do you think I should get in case of gyno I have not started my cycle till I have everything I need .
 
Hi...what do you think I should get in case of gyno I have not started my cycle till I have everything I need .

Well if your running an AI throught out cycle to control estrogen it won't be an issue. But if you notice gyno symptoms even with using an AI I would use letro. Iv never used it but research Iv done shows it's the most powerful estrogen blocker.

I'm not experienced enough on AI products though so I don't wanna tell you dosages but I'm sure you'll get more people adding there opinions later or tommorow morning.

Adex is good too as stated above^
 
I run 1mg of adex twice a week (day before test injection if also twice a week). Everyone is different though but definitely pick up an ai. Enjoy, should be a good ride!
 
Hi...this is my first post also a new member. I am planning to do my first cycle at 40yrs old.. lol thou a lot take me for 32 35 so that's sweet.lol I am 172lbs 12 percent body fat and stand 5 feet 9 inches in height. Have a cyle that i will be starting in first week of May 2015 . Sustanon 250 mon/Thurs 500ml total a week for weeks 1 to 10... going to kick start with turnibol 30mg ed for 4 weeks have Novidex to in case of gyno. Anythoughts please . Thanks for your time.

OBTAIN PRECYCLE LABS BEFORE GIVING CYCLING ANY MORE THOUGHT
 
To my knowledge the ONLY drug class that has been studied for the treatment of male gynecomastia is SERMS! AI's should be reserved for those that fail SERM treatment which is unusual IF used in the correct doses, for an appropriate duration, AND with a LEGITIMATE drug.

(Dr Scally if you are aware of any literature to the contrary, the use of AI's as therapy for GYNECOMASTIA, please post it.)

What do I mean by the latter? Most if not all SERM failures are bc UGL SERMS were used, where quality control is usually an afterthought.

The cause of gynecomastia is NOT estrogen (if that was the case ALL males whether cycling or not would have it) BUT rather the presence of "hyperresponsive" E-2 dependent breast tissue itself. That's why BLOCKING the E-2 breast receptors with an SERM is considered FIRST LINE medical therapy for gynecomastia.

Finally all AI's elicit a similar decrease in total estrogen load (E-2, E-1, E-3) when administered in equipotent amounts.

Moreover since many mates do not NEED an AI or a SERM when TT is supplemented at roughly 500mg/wk, or less, why use ANY drug as prophylaxis when there is nothing to prophylax.

AFTER YOU OBTAIN BASELINE LABS, begin the TT at 200 mg/week to determine if your prone to gynecomastia and start SERM therapy if such is the case. OBVIOUSLY do not increase the TT dose as originally planned until the symptoms RESOLVE!
 
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At your bodyfat level, Nolvadex should more than suffice. Keep Arimidex on hand just in case. Most importantly, know your blood pressure, E2, test. and cholesterol levels before going in, and monitor them well. It's sounds like a good first cycle. I'm sure you already know your body well, and how to train. All caveats aside, welcome to the world of supraphysiological testosterone. You're gonna love it.
 
I would pay attention to @Dr JIM's posts...but after you do all of that, I would consider doing a testosterone only cycle only...for a first cycle, you don't need other compounds to get a great effect. Also, it will confuse things as to sides, etc...meaning you may not be able to determine which compound is causing which sides. I would keep it simple man. Just my opinion.
 
500mg/week Sust is a great cycle..
I did 250mg/E5D and I loved it ..

Sure it was Mexican Sost but you compensate with another 250mg ..
no need for an oral

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Thanks so much with all the info ...will do my base line test also. just 1 more question.. is 250 mg say every 5 days enough for my first cylce? Would I get any type of gains with this I have a very good diet and training 5 days a week .. or do 500mg every week
 
Again, there are threads on this...but if it was ME...I'd do 500mg/wk. of the test. Just me though...you should stood on a bunch of research though before you pull the trigger bro. Just my opinion.
 
I have been doing a lot of research. .some say that they get gains with 250 only but u r right I think 500 mg is plenty for first cycle.
 
Does anyone know for sure how much a healthy males produces a week of test naturaly. Have not done research yet was just wondering? Thanks ps I am 40 yrs of age....
 
That's what I wo do...if you go with the 250mg/wk. you're gonna say...Damn I wish I would have gone with the 500...lol that's wha I would say lol. But it's ultimately up to you obviously.
 
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