Tompitash55
New Member
Hello everyone,
I'm a new member here, I been reading a lot and doing lot of research but I'm still unsure about a cycle I'm possibly thinking of running in the near future and it'll be greatly appreciated if i can get some feedback. (It's quite a lot, apologies)
I'm 5'11 178lbs BF at 16% (checked few months back and kept same diet and pretty much nearly the same) I'm 23 been lifting since I was 18. Joined the military as well at around age 20 and had messed with some Sarms specifically mk677 and lg4033 for 2 small cycles of 2 months 1/2 each total 7 months did it all wrong was not really knowledge at that time and quite regretted it as i got some side effects due to not having a base like test which suppressed my test etc. Now with a bit more experience although still young I want to do things right if I'm ever going to touch exogenous peds again. Goals have always been to look better than I did yesterday and maybe even compete at some point as I feel like I'm a very dedicated and disciplined individual. Prior to that Sarms use I never used any real gear so this would be my first real cycle. I weight lift 6 times a week with a usual PPL or others like Arnold split. I'm also studying to become a personal trainer if that's relevant meaning I'm not really a dumbass starting a first real cycle with 0 knowledge of the subject or how your body really works calories, hormones, health wise or also not the one starting with test and hella orals at high doses then hit plateaus and don't know where to go from there. Anyways hopefully that's sufficient info about me that you guys can essentially perform appropriate feedback for my specific case. I am quite aware of the essential health damage I'm going to be doing and as of now I don't know whether I want to commit to this for life (meaning hoping on TRT) or if i just want to cycle once or maybe twice a year max, allowing myself and body to recover. I am also aware it can be really addicting and most likely you will want more of it of whatever you're taking or longer periods of time as like i shared before i had my fair share with Sarms which can become addicting because you see yourself making hella progress etc etc. Forgot to mention, I had blood work before using Sarms (everything normal) then after i got off the sarms. then a year later a BMP and a CMP and also test, estradiol,progesterone,prolactin,vitamin d, fsh,lh,dhea,prostate, after i got off all that, obviously my body went back to normal after test suppression. However I'd like to note my test levels before were 440 (natural) Immediately discontinuing sarms use had blood test was 228 very low a year later 429, months later, out of curiosity to see my test levels was again in the 400s, maybe genetically my body just doesn't need to produce as much test i do feel normal but I'd always thought since started weight lifting, how would my body react if i had sort of optimal levels of test so therefore I am doing this as well. (also i kept in consideration things that can potentially make an impact on your test levels such as stress, not enough sleep, trust me when i say this but I'm a psycho when it comes to this. for the past 2 years I been on point with my weightlifting routine implementing progressive overload, trying maximizing hypertrophy with metabolic stress(high reps, pumps, tissue damage (essentially 1RPM low reps high volume etc etc sleep at least 7-8hrs 5 meals per day protein at least 0.5kg or 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight taking supplements like regular vitamin D, zinc which there are studies that show an increase in test levels. magnesium especially at night, ashwagandha, keeping a semi lean, healthy bf% again for optimize test levels and i also almost every other day i have sex with my gf which increase test levels as well and biggest one competition, big competitor. always want to be the best or the best version of myself. Anyways I been thinking of running a cycle like this:
12 week cycle
Test E (only) starting at 250mg first 1-3 weeks (micro dose)
Mon-wed-fri
(Keeping blood levels stable, minimizing sides effects as you all most likely know.
3-6 weeks (around this time) will get blood work (test,estradiol,lh,fsh,blood pressure etc)
350mg (first see how body handles test and bump up or adjust from there)
6-12 weeks
500mg (if once again body can handle i believe that's the max limit I'll go)
after 2 weeks of last pin, clomid PCT for the dosage I'm actually not quite sure due to it varies by person, test dosage etc upon receiving all this info what you guys think would be the appropriate dose I'm also citing below what Bill Roberts says about it.
To account for this, 300 mg is taken on the first day, as three doses of 100 mg, or optionally six doses of 50 mg. This immediately gets levels to where they should be. Ongoing 50 mg/day dosing will maintain this level.
After day 1, doses of more than 50 mg are not needed and are not recommended. They will not improve results but may increase adverse side effects.
Also while on cycle would have 2x more AIs, SERMS on hand in case of things go south (Nolvadex, Aromasin, Clomid)
Also need a touch up on when to apply HCG use, i keep seeing different approaches.
Like i said before, i am learning more as i go and doing lots of research, aware that I'll be damaging health, but I'd like to try it for myself and see if i can even handle that much test in my body or i may have to call it quits if side effects or health can be potentially jeopardized drastically. Also, apologies, i know it's a lot but i been reading in the forums that when people ask for 1st cycle advice, they get obliterated for not saying much (maybe they don't know much) not providing enough background information in order for you guys with the experience and knowledge to properly give out advice, so i tried my best to be honest and see what kind responses i get.
Lastly, future goals would be to essentially have kids, maybe even compete and before anyone says about maybe im putting so much emphasis on test levels even tho the more test you have does not always necessarily mean the more muscle tissue you can hold or produce, in general, chances are the more test the more of an increase in muscle mass you'll have. Let me know if any of this or parts that I'm completely wrong or you guys disagree, I don't get offended, i just want to learn more and educate myself I'd like to think i have a bit of personal knowledge regarding anabolic steroids tho is quite limited. Last thing i promise. one thing is quite concerning is brain development as the brain doesn't fully develop until you're 25, and I'm 23 anyways thank you for your time.
I'm a new member here, I been reading a lot and doing lot of research but I'm still unsure about a cycle I'm possibly thinking of running in the near future and it'll be greatly appreciated if i can get some feedback. (It's quite a lot, apologies)
I'm 5'11 178lbs BF at 16% (checked few months back and kept same diet and pretty much nearly the same) I'm 23 been lifting since I was 18. Joined the military as well at around age 20 and had messed with some Sarms specifically mk677 and lg4033 for 2 small cycles of 2 months 1/2 each total 7 months did it all wrong was not really knowledge at that time and quite regretted it as i got some side effects due to not having a base like test which suppressed my test etc. Now with a bit more experience although still young I want to do things right if I'm ever going to touch exogenous peds again. Goals have always been to look better than I did yesterday and maybe even compete at some point as I feel like I'm a very dedicated and disciplined individual. Prior to that Sarms use I never used any real gear so this would be my first real cycle. I weight lift 6 times a week with a usual PPL or others like Arnold split. I'm also studying to become a personal trainer if that's relevant meaning I'm not really a dumbass starting a first real cycle with 0 knowledge of the subject or how your body really works calories, hormones, health wise or also not the one starting with test and hella orals at high doses then hit plateaus and don't know where to go from there. Anyways hopefully that's sufficient info about me that you guys can essentially perform appropriate feedback for my specific case. I am quite aware of the essential health damage I'm going to be doing and as of now I don't know whether I want to commit to this for life (meaning hoping on TRT) or if i just want to cycle once or maybe twice a year max, allowing myself and body to recover. I am also aware it can be really addicting and most likely you will want more of it of whatever you're taking or longer periods of time as like i shared before i had my fair share with Sarms which can become addicting because you see yourself making hella progress etc etc. Forgot to mention, I had blood work before using Sarms (everything normal) then after i got off the sarms. then a year later a BMP and a CMP and also test, estradiol,progesterone,prolactin,vitamin d, fsh,lh,dhea,prostate, after i got off all that, obviously my body went back to normal after test suppression. However I'd like to note my test levels before were 440 (natural) Immediately discontinuing sarms use had blood test was 228 very low a year later 429, months later, out of curiosity to see my test levels was again in the 400s, maybe genetically my body just doesn't need to produce as much test i do feel normal but I'd always thought since started weight lifting, how would my body react if i had sort of optimal levels of test so therefore I am doing this as well. (also i kept in consideration things that can potentially make an impact on your test levels such as stress, not enough sleep, trust me when i say this but I'm a psycho when it comes to this. for the past 2 years I been on point with my weightlifting routine implementing progressive overload, trying maximizing hypertrophy with metabolic stress(high reps, pumps, tissue damage (essentially 1RPM low reps high volume etc etc sleep at least 7-8hrs 5 meals per day protein at least 0.5kg or 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight taking supplements like regular vitamin D, zinc which there are studies that show an increase in test levels. magnesium especially at night, ashwagandha, keeping a semi lean, healthy bf% again for optimize test levels and i also almost every other day i have sex with my gf which increase test levels as well and biggest one competition, big competitor. always want to be the best or the best version of myself. Anyways I been thinking of running a cycle like this:
12 week cycle
Test E (only) starting at 250mg first 1-3 weeks (micro dose)
Mon-wed-fri
(Keeping blood levels stable, minimizing sides effects as you all most likely know.
3-6 weeks (around this time) will get blood work (test,estradiol,lh,fsh,blood pressure etc)
350mg (first see how body handles test and bump up or adjust from there)
6-12 weeks
500mg (if once again body can handle i believe that's the max limit I'll go)
after 2 weeks of last pin, clomid PCT for the dosage I'm actually not quite sure due to it varies by person, test dosage etc upon receiving all this info what you guys think would be the appropriate dose I'm also citing below what Bill Roberts says about it.
To account for this, 300 mg is taken on the first day, as three doses of 100 mg, or optionally six doses of 50 mg. This immediately gets levels to where they should be. Ongoing 50 mg/day dosing will maintain this level.
After day 1, doses of more than 50 mg are not needed and are not recommended. They will not improve results but may increase adverse side effects.
Also while on cycle would have 2x more AIs, SERMS on hand in case of things go south (Nolvadex, Aromasin, Clomid)
Also need a touch up on when to apply HCG use, i keep seeing different approaches.
Like i said before, i am learning more as i go and doing lots of research, aware that I'll be damaging health, but I'd like to try it for myself and see if i can even handle that much test in my body or i may have to call it quits if side effects or health can be potentially jeopardized drastically. Also, apologies, i know it's a lot but i been reading in the forums that when people ask for 1st cycle advice, they get obliterated for not saying much (maybe they don't know much) not providing enough background information in order for you guys with the experience and knowledge to properly give out advice, so i tried my best to be honest and see what kind responses i get.
Lastly, future goals would be to essentially have kids, maybe even compete and before anyone says about maybe im putting so much emphasis on test levels even tho the more test you have does not always necessarily mean the more muscle tissue you can hold or produce, in general, chances are the more test the more of an increase in muscle mass you'll have. Let me know if any of this or parts that I'm completely wrong or you guys disagree, I don't get offended, i just want to learn more and educate myself I'd like to think i have a bit of personal knowledge regarding anabolic steroids tho is quite limited. Last thing i promise. one thing is quite concerning is brain development as the brain doesn't fully develop until you're 25, and I'm 23 anyways thank you for your time.
