1st time DNP user. Tips please

[Razorfish]

I'm new to this forum and to DNP. One of my best buds hooked me up with a new source (thanks bro) I have a 50count bottle of 200mg sitting right in front of me. I'm not going to lie, I'm a little scared to take it after some of the things I have read. My friend has educated me on all the things to do and dont do while on. I will start with 200mg per day for a few days then move to 400mg and see how it goes. any last minute tips would be great.

last words: If I die, I want everyone on this site to know that I went out in a blaze of glory. (infasis on the blaze part)


thanks for the tips. I will post my results. I'm doing a 21day cycle

 

[Lizard King]

What is your plan for your cycle? Just to up it to 400 mg after a few days? Are you taking anything else along with the DNP, supps? Read the DNP thread https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/2159 the whole thing and you will learn a lot.
If you are smart and know what you are doing and regulate your dose you will not die.
Is infasis a new word? I'm not familiar with it

 

[HugeArms]

It sounds to me like you shouldn't even consider taking DNP. DNP can and will kill you. Lizard is right, read that thread, do your research, search for cycle logs, subscribe and read them. If you scared to take it, you shouldn't be taking it, plain and simple.

 

[Conciliator]

It sounds to me like you shouldn't even consider taking DNP. DNP can and will kill you. Lizard is right, read that thread, do your research, search for cycle logs, subscribe and read them. If you scared to take it, you shouldn't be taking it, plain and simple.

DNP can and will kill you? Maybe if you're reckless or careless. Death from DNP is actually rare. In the 1930's, when an estimated 500,000 people took it for weight loss, there were a total of three case reports of fatal overdose. Three.

O course, there are risks. And users should be very informed before embarking on a DNP cycle. Just keep the risks in perspective.

 

[xxjaredxx]

It sounds to me like you shouldn't even consider taking DNP. DNP can and will kill you. Lizard is right, read that thread, do your research, search for cycle logs, subscribe and read them. If you scared to take it, you shouldn't be taking it, plain and simple.

lol. sure it's risky, but only in the hands of the impatient and ill-informed. Just be careful and do your homework forehand before anything enters your body.

 

[TigerLord]

There's a stigmata on DNP that some people perpetuated because they feared what they knew nothing about. You have more chance of going bad on some bad Ectasy you got during a party than you of ever damaging yourself by taking DNP at doses of 200-600mg.

Since it also doesn't affect your endocrine system (or rather DNP's effect doesn't work through it) it is much less dangerous than taking T3 or even CLEN where PERMANENT thyroid damage can occur at even 50mcg of T3 for some, or if taken too long.

I've seen a lot more idiots post they took 100mcg of T3 to accelerate whatever process they wanted to go on... that my friend, is stupid.

If you've done your reading and don't do something stupid like take 1g on day 1, you will be fine. Listen to your body and pay attention to the signs.

Good luck

 

[Conciliator]

Since it also doesn't affect your endocrine system (or rather DNP's effect doesn't work through it) it is much less dangerous than taking T3 or even CLEN where PERMANENT thyroid damage can occur at even 50mcg of T3 for some, or if taken too long.

Long term thyroid administration does not damage the thyroid. Here's a good quote from an article by Nandi:

Like the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, the thyroid gland is under negative feedback control. When T3 levels go up, TSH secretion is suppressed. This is the mechanism whereby exogenous thyroid hormone suppresses natural thyroid hormone production. There is a difference though between the way anabolic steroids suppress natural testosterone production and the way T3 suppresses the thyroid. With steroids, the longer and heavier the cycle is, the longer your natural testosterone is suppressed. This is not the case with exogenous thyroid hormone.

An early study that looked at thyroid function and recovery under the influence of exogenous thyroid hormone was undertaken by Greer (2). He looked at patients who were misdiagnosed as being hypothyroid and put on thyroid hormone replacement for as long as 30 years. When the medication was withdrawn, their thyroids quickly returned to normal.

Here is a remark about Greer's classic paper from a later author:

"In 1951, Greer reported the pattern of recovery of thyroid function after stopping suppressive treatment with thyroid hormone in euthyroid [normal] subjects based on sequential measurements of their thyroidal uptake of radioiodine. He observed that after withdrawal of exogenous thyroid therapy, thyroid function, in terms of radioiodine uptake, returned to normal in most subjects within two weeks. He further observed that thyroid function returned as rapidly in those subjects whose glands had been depressed by several years of thyroid medication as it did in those whose gland had been depressed for only a few days" (3)

These results have been subsequently verified in several studies.(3)(4) So contrary to what has been stated in the bodybuilding literature, there is no evidence that long term thyroid supplementation will somehow damage your thyroid gland.[/b] Nevertheless, most bodybuilders will choose to cycle their T3 (or T4 which in most cases works just as well) as part of a cutting strategy, since T3 is catabolic with respect to muscle just as it is with fat. As previously mentioned, long term T3 induced hyperthyroidism is also catabolic to bone as well as muscle.

 

[HugeArms]

Of course it's fine if you do your homework. Heck, I'm on my third cycle. I only reason I said what I did is in response to the OP comments such as "I'm scared" and "If I die.....". With comments like that, it sounds like he isn't very prepared. Maybe I was a bit over dramatic, but I just want to be sure he knows what he's getting into.

 

[romanowski]

Conciliator

at another forum I read you say that the DNP cycle below, specifically the carb depletion wasnt the most effective way to run the cycle

"Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.
Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.
Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Inferno Phase.
Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase."

Can you tell me a better way, 33/33/33 diet? calorie deficit?

 

[Conciliator]

Conciliator

at another forum I read you say that the DNP cycle below, specifically the carb depletion wasnt the most effective way to run the cycle

"Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.
Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.
Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Inferno Phase.
Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase."

Can you tell me a better way, 33/33/33 diet? calorie deficit?

I think the carb depletion is unnecessary and I think the high-dose "inferno cycle" is a very poor way take DNP.

As for effectiveness, the fat and carb composition of your diet shouldn't have a significant effect on your weight loss. There was a study by Cutting and Tainter in 1933 entitled "Metabolic actions of dinitrophenol with the use of balanced and unbalanced diets." The paper compared different diets (high fat, high carb, high protein, and isocaloric) while looking at metabolism, nitrogen loss, acidity, and change in body weight in people taking DNP. They concluded, "Dinitrophenol, used in doses of therapeutic range, caused increases in metabolism of the usual magnitude irrespective of the type of diet."

I recommend an isocaloric (mixed macronutrient) diet like a 33/33/33 because I think it's best to include both carbs and fats for practical purposes. Low carb diets don't seem to provide sufficient energy (though they work for some) and low fat diets don't seem to keep people feeling full, not to mention that the heat from a high carb meal can be intense. A mixed diet seems to be a good compromise. Of course, keep your protein intake high.

I like using a 500 Cal/day deficit. If you're running a lowish dose of DNP, you might use a larger deficit and if you're running a higher dose, you might use a small deficit or eat at maintenance. When I run DNP, I typically do long low-dose cycles of 200-300mg/day with a 500 Cal/day deficit.

 

[bigboy420]

Did he die?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Did he die?

you bumped a 14 year old thread buddy. JS

 

[DECLAN]

Did he die?

Yep, even his whole village did.

 

[OmL]

you bumped a 14 year old thread buddy. JS

Hey now, at least someone finally used the search function. There’s a silver lining here.

 

[TheRingloVale]

Old ass thread is old and is ass

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Hey now, at least someone finally used the search function. There’s a silver lining here.

You are right. This guy deserves an award for trying

 

[bigboy420]

Tyty, lately im bored and im going as deep as i can in meso. But for real. They actually dead possibly :/

 

[MorePancakesMoreAssQuakes]

You are right. This guy deserves an award for trying

He took your spoon feeding post to heart

 

[narta]

DNP is a weird tool in our toolbox and can be versatile if one knows how to use it.

But for the love of god, don't use it with any glp1 drug. The hypoglycemia is real and because you burn if you use excess carbs it's a bitch to normalize.

 

[MorePancakesMoreAssQuakes]

DNP is a weird tool in our toolbox and can be versatile if one knows how to use it.

But for the love of god, don't use it with any glp1 drug. The hypoglycemia is real and because you burn if you use excess carbs it's a bitch to normalize.

On Tirz, was going to order DNP this weekend…you actually might have just stopped me from fucking myself up.

Reading up on all this right now. It would seem the body could normally get enough glucose from the burned fat, but with both drugs lowering blood sugar…fuck. I wonder if Reta would work since it would be agonizing the glucagon receptors.

What about sugary drinks like coke, does that still make you burn?