2 years into trt, wanting to add a compound for a cycle.

[kaldingo]

LONG time lurker.

Just a little over 2 years on trt.
I'm 37 years old, currently 216lbs at 12%.

Trt dose: 120mg/wk
Dose is locked in, last blood work done in June everything was good. I have no sides mentally or physically.

I'd like to either do a cycle or add something to the trt and I guess call it a permanent cruise.

Current ideas:
Npp looks interesting but I am open to suggestions.

Not looking for overnight gains, but ideally would like to add some size. Diet is OK but definitely could be better (cleaner).

Goal: Looking to hit 225-230lbs with either same bodyfat or lower next year.

Haven't done a cycle in 5 years and last was basic test 500mg week so be gentle.

 

[b6798045]

Look no further than Masteron. With TRT 100-200 mg/w, as a blast 250+ mg/w.

 

[BC22]

LONG time lurker.

Just a little over 2 years on trt.
I'm 37 years old, currently 216lbs at 12%.

Trt dose: 120mg/wk
Dose is locked in, last blood work done in June everything was good. I have no sides mentally or physically.

I'd like to either do a cycle or add something to the trt and I guess call it a permanent cruise.

Current ideas:
Npp looks interesting but I am open to suggestions.

Not looking for overnight gains, but ideally would like to add some size. Diet is OK but definitely could be better (cleaner).

Goal: Looking to hit 225-230lbs with either same bodyfat or lower next year.

Haven't done a cycle in 5 years and last was basic test 500mg week so be gentle.

I’m in the same boat although a few years older (44). Currently at 160mg per week. I’m thinking either Masteron or Primo. Curious what everyone thinks as well!

 

[Kiraa710]

More test

Or probably masteron if not

 

[PlanetFatness]

Add a dht to your test. Winny, Var, Mast, etc. Stay away from 19 nors.

 

[kaldingo]

No experience with mast or var. Both seem a good option but ratios seem different in every post I find online.

Someone with experience mind chiming in on dose, would appreciate it.

Reading anything below 400mg/wk mast is useless, others saying 200mg is fine.

If I bump up my test to 200mg/wk would a 1:1 ratio be sufficient with mast.

Mast/primo are both options I am OK with.

 

[DugPrime]

LONG time lurker.

Just a little over 2 years on trt.
I'm 37 years old, currently 216lbs at 12%.

Trt dose: 120mg/wk
Dose is locked in, last blood work done in June everything was good. I have no sides mentally or physically.

I'd like to either do a cycle or add something to the trt and I guess call it a permanent cruise.

Current ideas:
Npp looks interesting but I am open to suggestions.

Not looking for overnight gains, but ideally would like to add some size. Diet is OK but definitely could be better (cleaner).

Goal: Looking to hit 225-230lbs with either same bodyfat or lower next year.

Haven't done a cycle in 5 years and last was basic test 500mg week so be gentle.

I would definitely recommend you to give Bold C, and/or Primo a try.

 

[CorgisOnTren]

I’d up test

 

[twreck555]

I added primo to my trt for a bit, had to run it at less than 1/2 the dose of test due to it lowering my e2. I liked it but pulled back to trt for a bit. Would use again. Haven't tried masteron but hear good things. Might try boldenone next due to its positive effects on collagen synthesis and erythropoiesis. Love me some cardio and my crit doesn't run high

 

[JC Grifter]

Add a dht to your test. Winny, Var, Mast, etc. Stay away from 19 nors.

Why stay away from 19 nors?

 

[twreck555]

Why stay away from 19 nors?

No expert myself but the dht derivatives seem much more predictable, less potential for unintended downstream effects. Seems a no brainer to use either primo or masteron as a first synthetic compound. The 19 nors all seem better suited to the experienced user, which I myself most certainly am not.

 

[roofer22]

I'd probably start where you left off at 500 test. Since you.ve done that you could add some primo, just watch your estrogen of course. Or you could always go with 4-6 iu of gh.

 

[sinistral]

I like the idea of adding a DHT derivative also. I added Primo as my first add-on. Easy to predict where E2 will go. Based on where my E2 was at TRT dose I bumped Test to 200mg and added Primo 100mg and E2 landed right in range.

 

[Liter O' Test]

If I wasn't that serious and just wanted something casual, I would just add 50mg anadrol on top of TRT for 8 weeks since it is strong and doesn't mess with your estrogen.

if you dont mind managing estrogen then increase testosterone to whatever you want.

if you handle estrogen well I would do like 20mg dbol on top of TRT.

I think adding something like 140mg npp or 200mg masteron or something along those lines is a waste of time, you risk side effects for just like 0-1lbs of muscle.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

LONG time lurker.

Just a little over 2 years on trt.
I'm 37 years old, currently 216lbs at 12%.

Trt dose: 120mg/wk
Dose is locked in, last blood work done in June everything was good. I have no sides mentally or physically.

I'd like to either do a cycle or add something to the trt and I guess call it a permanent cruise.

Current ideas:
Npp looks interesting but I am open to suggestions.

Not looking for overnight gains, but ideally would like to add some size. Diet is OK but definitely could be better (cleaner).

Goal: Looking to hit 225-230lbs with either same bodyfat or lower next year.

Haven't done a cycle in 5 years and last was basic test 500mg week so be gentle.

Im a huge fan of NPP some minor anxiety sides from time to time and some stuffy nose issues at night but I wore a nose strip and got by.

Masteron and me just did not mix! I was irritated 24/7 and found myself arguing with my wife daily where as before masteron we’d maybe have one argument a year! Oh and driving? Don’t even wanna talk about it.

I simply took 100mg of test prop and NPP injected every other day for 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off and occasionally I would do a 6 week schedule but I felt much better health and mental wise doing the 3 week schedule.

The last 3 on 3 off program I ran Before I stopped taking extracurricular amounts of gear, I went from 212 to 233 over a 6 month period and was able to hold it very easily since the muscle came on a few pounds at a time without putting on too much fat.
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[PlanetFatness]

Why stay away from 19 nors?

Because he said his goal is to add something along side his trt as a “permanent cruise”. NPP could be an option, but the mental sides are too much for many people. I wouldn’t recommend a permanent Tren cruise. Something like Primo or Mast… or even longer term var/adrol would be a better choice overall.

 

[JP RIGGS]

Increase your test or add deca. Make it simple.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Increase your test or add deca. Make it simple.

My biggest issue with Deca was the inability to bust a nut. I’d be plenty horny and plenty hard but it would take an act of god to actually have an orgasm and when I did get there it was lackluster most of the time.


I had the same problem with NPP occasionally but it wasn’t nearly as common. I always started out fine on deca but after a month or so that annoying side came right back. I think the short runs with NPP helped to avoid that problem. Judging Form past posts and discussions on here I wasn’t the only one who had this side.

 

[Liter O' Test]

My biggest issue with Deca was the inability to bust a nut. I’d be plenty horny and plenty hard but it would take an act of god to actually have an orgasm and when I did get there it was lackluster most of the time.


I had the same problem with NPP occasionally but it wasn’t nearly as common. I always started out fine on deca but after a month or so that annoying side came right back. I think the short runs with NPP helped to avoid that problem. Judging Form past posts and discussions on here I wasn’t the only one who had this side.

same thing, but i enjoyed it, no viagra or dapox needed. it was good to prove a point but i could see how thats tiring if you have sex more than once every full moon.

0.5mg caber reversed it and the girl never saw me again

 

[JC Grifter]

Because he said his goal is to add something along side his trt as a “permanent cruise”. NPP could be an option, but the mental sides are too much for many people. I wouldn’t recommend a permanent Tren cruise. Something like Primo or Mast… or even longer term var/adrol would be a better choice overall.

He said “either a cycle OR add something to trt.” I should asked him for clarification.