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Anabolic Steroids
24k Pharma US Domestic Source
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GorillaStrong
New Member
Same, never used 24k, but bitcoin is fucking cake after you take the hour to set it up.
Gramps
New Member
Or you can all save an hour and buy from every other source that doesn't use bitcoin. I simply don't see the need for a learning curve when there's good products easier to get.
Jason001
New Member
Bitcoin looks confusing and weird as its a new experimental way of sending money makes my head hurt plus I don't have ID to send funds.
Kinikuman
Well-known Member
I also do not play with Bitcoin. Ever take a good look at the value of this "currency" over time? Even for a fait currency I would call it extremely high risk.
I don't see why everyone is giving OP a hard time over expressing his desire to switch to a more secure form of monetary exchange. In the early days of Bitcoin illegal substances were one of the most popular, not to mention only, things you could buy with them. Personally I like the idea of the transaction being near completely anonymous.
Also I don't believe it's fair to call out Bitcoin for it's varying 'real value' over time. No currency is or ever will be static, they are always trending up or down. Bitcoin's value is always trending up, so in my opinion it's a smart business decision to investing in something that has the potential to appreciate exponentially in value over time.
Also I don't believe it's fair to call out Bitcoin for it's varying 'real value' over time. No currency is or ever will be static, they are always trending up or down. Bitcoin's value is always trending up, so in my opinion it's a smart business decision to investing in something that has the potential to appreciate exponentially in value over time.
Jason001
New Member
I totally agree Kinkiuman Sorry Achilles
Yes, every currency has some time of value fluctuation, but not like bitcoin... If I send you $100 U.S. dollars it will be worth a $100 U.S. dollars in the US when you get it or I can send you $100 worth of bitcoins and it can potentially be worth less by the time the transaction goes through... Smart business decision??? Why not get paid in penny stocks if it can potentially go up?? No sir, being paid in currency that can potentially be worth less than value of what you're selling is not a smart business move... And it's not nearly as "anonymous" as you think.. I see what you're trying to say, but it's not nearly as safe or stable as you seem to think.. Just my 2 cents
Jason001
New Member
I agree its like the dam stock exchange and they clearly charge you for the transaction on Top like W.U & M.G imagine getting charged and the currency exchange rate was higher then you expected as in it turned in to less money. I think its bit like a bank that is like the stock exchange you can leave money in there and it ether go up or down in value like playing the stocks with your banked cash.
GymRat88
Well-known Member
@24kpharma....STILL WAITING FOR MY EMAIL RESPONSE...
Kinikuman
Well-known Member
That arrow in your heel is affecting your judgement. Examine the chart below which shows the 1 year trend of BC. Now, does that look like it's going up? We're talking loss of 50% of value withing a few months time. That is what we call volatility.I don't know of any prudent investor that would look at that chart and say that it looks like a good opportunity.
Gettinbigger is right, it is also not nearly so safe and anonymous as you would be lead to believe.
We're not giving him a hard time, we are simply putting our opinions out there so the OP can make an informed decision. If we didn't see potential in this one, we wouldn't bother.
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Sorry everyone! I will be catching up on emails tonight.
Quick update, I've gotten a blood report back (local user), waiting on one more, but I am unsure if he's actually going to follow through. In any case, I'll know for certain tomorrow and will be posting results within the next few days. These will be for the next batch of Test Cyp. The results were about 3500 ng/dL on 250mg of test cyp twice a week. When I post the entire lab report, we can work on discussing on how the next batch will be dosed.
Thank you again everyone for your patience. I know this sales halt has been frustrating for some and my response times have not been stellar but please give me some leeway as I for-warned everyone of this. Update everyone soon.
Hey Meso Community,
Just wanted to give everyone a few updates and address the current Bitcoin topic. I also wanted to apologize for being spotty recently, I promise I will not disappear but communication has been delayed during the sales halt.
First off, as stated before, I need some more time to reopen, I ask for patience and of course if there is a dire need please feel free to go to other sources! No one is obliged to buy from 24kpharma, of course I appreciate the business but I also understand that I have been down for quite some time. I don't intend for this to sound like an excuse, but please understand I do not have the resources or manpower to conduct business like the bigger sources so these sales halts are my method of trying to maintain quality and keep processes smooth.
I believe I have caught up on emails and PMs, so if I did not get back to you, please contact me! I apologize in advanced if I missed your email/PM.
I understand everyone's hesitancy with Bitcoin as WU/MG have been tried and true payment methods. I can attest that most users find it easy to set up and use once they take the time to learn. The time it takes to set up an account is an investment that pays itself every time you save a trip to WU/MG. With most Bitcoin transactions I am able to confirm your payment within an hour of the transfer, these transfers can also be done in the comfort of your own home. A tumbler also adds another layer of security if you wish. Some users have brought up a concern regarding the volatility of Bitcoin, I promise this will not be an issue for you. If the value goes down, I will eat the cost. Here's how it works, when I quote a dollar value for your order, as soon as you buy the Bitcoin, take a screenshot of the purchase. It will say XX.XXX Bitcoins purchased for $YY. If the value of Bitcoin drops, you will only need to send XX.XXX Bitcoins, no matter what the dollar value is. If the value of Bitcoin raises, you will only need to send me the quoted dollar amount and you can keep the extra Bitcoins. Hopefully this makes sense, if not I can elaborate further. In any case, do not let the fluctuation of Bitcoin value be a hindrance, I will eat any losses. Finally, all refunds are processed through Bitcoin only. Refunds are a case by case basis but only issued through Bitcoin as WU/MG refunds and CIM (Cash in mail) refunds are not available.
Here are the bloods from one local customer for the next batch of Test C. I understand source testing is frowned upon but please understand this is me trying my best to send out a product that has at least somewhat been tested. I will have a few labmaxes of the new batches this week as well.
I have tried to be as through as possible with these blood results. Individual is 190lbs running "250mg/ml" twice a week for a total of "500mg" powder per week, I am told the "final" bloods were taken "2 days after last injection".
Prebloods part 1:
https://img.bi/#/HcXeuY8!l_NHpQ1KsY8wa5eDzA3Ip51wHk5L9QH_bQjgjrlN
Prebloods part 2:
https://img.bi/#/H314fZC!vErMrwH97N5wx4EKxwbkLp5Au_TwVwECNIugYyxA
"Midbloods" were taken with >1500 limit blood test as reassurance that produce was not bunk.
Midbloods part 1:
https://img.bi/#/tDIZ4HM!f4CyHghREx0gXkYnvA3jdxOw2gMVIwIiaoPQrEmi
Midbloods part 2:
https://img.bi/#/H70yJc1!_DUBrAsLcCAAvQKnHQwFmXtAEWtgHgTVcNegGNDZ
"Final" bloods:
https://img.bi/#/UsqBZWM!gNn2dgIM9MJAOmX3tg_rK6HwLuKR0gGFTylwxoCC
(Earlier I said around 3500 but I remembered incorrectly, my apologies)
I would appreciate some community input on how I should label the next batch of Test C. I have pre-bloods for another individual who claims he will get testing done tomorrow, I will keep the community updated in this regard.
Thank you for reading.
Just wanted to give everyone a few updates and address the current Bitcoin topic. I also wanted to apologize for being spotty recently, I promise I will not disappear but communication has been delayed during the sales halt.
First off, as stated before, I need some more time to reopen, I ask for patience and of course if there is a dire need please feel free to go to other sources! No one is obliged to buy from 24kpharma, of course I appreciate the business but I also understand that I have been down for quite some time. I don't intend for this to sound like an excuse, but please understand I do not have the resources or manpower to conduct business like the bigger sources so these sales halts are my method of trying to maintain quality and keep processes smooth.
I believe I have caught up on emails and PMs, so if I did not get back to you, please contact me! I apologize in advanced if I missed your email/PM.
I understand everyone's hesitancy with Bitcoin as WU/MG have been tried and true payment methods. I can attest that most users find it easy to set up and use once they take the time to learn. The time it takes to set up an account is an investment that pays itself every time you save a trip to WU/MG. With most Bitcoin transactions I am able to confirm your payment within an hour of the transfer, these transfers can also be done in the comfort of your own home. A tumbler also adds another layer of security if you wish. Some users have brought up a concern regarding the volatility of Bitcoin, I promise this will not be an issue for you. If the value goes down, I will eat the cost. Here's how it works, when I quote a dollar value for your order, as soon as you buy the Bitcoin, take a screenshot of the purchase. It will say XX.XXX Bitcoins purchased for $YY. If the value of Bitcoin drops, you will only need to send XX.XXX Bitcoins, no matter what the dollar value is. If the value of Bitcoin raises, you will only need to send me the quoted dollar amount and you can keep the extra Bitcoins. Hopefully this makes sense, if not I can elaborate further. In any case, do not let the fluctuation of Bitcoin value be a hindrance, I will eat any losses. Finally, all refunds are processed through Bitcoin only. Refunds are a case by case basis but only issued through Bitcoin as WU/MG refunds and CIM (Cash in mail) refunds are not available.
Here are the bloods from one local customer for the next batch of Test C. I understand source testing is frowned upon but please understand this is me trying my best to send out a product that has at least somewhat been tested. I will have a few labmaxes of the new batches this week as well.
I have tried to be as through as possible with these blood results. Individual is 190lbs running "250mg/ml" twice a week for a total of "500mg" powder per week, I am told the "final" bloods were taken "2 days after last injection".
Prebloods part 1:
https://img.bi/#/HcXeuY8!l_NHpQ1KsY8wa5eDzA3Ip51wHk5L9QH_bQjgjrlN
Prebloods part 2:
https://img.bi/#/H314fZC!vErMrwH97N5wx4EKxwbkLp5Au_TwVwECNIugYyxA
"Midbloods" were taken with >1500 limit blood test as reassurance that produce was not bunk.
Midbloods part 1:
https://img.bi/#/tDIZ4HM!f4CyHghREx0gXkYnvA3jdxOw2gMVIwIiaoPQrEmi
Midbloods part 2:
https://img.bi/#/H70yJc1!_DUBrAsLcCAAvQKnHQwFmXtAEWtgHgTVcNegGNDZ
"Final" bloods:
https://img.bi/#/UsqBZWM!gNn2dgIM9MJAOmX3tg_rK6HwLuKR0gGFTylwxoCC
(Earlier I said around 3500 but I remembered incorrectly, my apologies)
I would appreciate some community input on how I should label the next batch of Test C. I have pre-bloods for another individual who claims he will get testing done tomorrow, I will keep the community updated in this regard.
Thank you for reading.
Hey, my apologies for not responding earlier. I did overdose the tren a, however I have not received any reports yet regarding adverse reactions to the product. Admittedly, I sincerely wish I could confidently send out product that is accurately labeled but I am trying my best in a black market industry in which reliable and consistent analytical testing is hard to come by. I make no claims to accurate dosing and since the beginning all products were sold with a "buyer beware", I am simply a UGL. I cannot compare to pharma or even Alpha-pharma. I am a UGL selling UGL product and I do apologize if anyone expects anymore from me.
In regards to tren levels through blood testing, I do not claim that there is a measurable correlation. To my knowledge, an elevated estradiol reading through the ELCIA method, beyond what is achievable through uncontrolled estrogen, is an indication that one may have tren in their system. I have no scientific papers or biological evidence. It is simply something I have read and seen numerous times throughout communities. It is simply an observation and perhaps not a solid conclusion, I am just sharing what I know.
I can sense your frustration and dissatisfaction, is there anything I can do to make it right for you? I am happy to discuss what I can do for your situation. I just wish you had brought up your concerns with the product earlier as I am always open to customer feedback. Thank you for your continued dialogue.
Kinikuman
Well-known Member
Based on the final bloods I would guesstimate potency to be in the 190-200 mg range, being that peak values are seen at 24 hrs as opposed to 48. I would label it 200. But that's me.
Save your money and time on the Labmax tests - all that will tell us is that some possibly identifiable hormone is present at a very low threshold. Your resources are better used elsewhere.
Lifteasy
Member
Any updates on the sales halt?
Hey, thank you for you feedback, I really appreciate it.
What is the community's feedback on relabeling the current batch as 200mg/mL, and slightly reducing the price as well?
Also, I received another set of blood tests from a local individual on the next batch of Test C, I can post it but unfortunately the individual got the capped total testosterone test from PrivateMDLabs.com. He is going to call back tomorrow to see if the lab still has his sample and if they can retest using MS/LC, I will keep everyone updated on that progress.
In regards to Labmaxes, I understand your point and it's valid. However, I have already purchased several set of Labmaxes early on as a response to the community's request for Labmax results as a testing minimum. I find some value in them as they are a test that can be done before any producing of final product and it is fast. I will be posting the next batches of Labmaxes all in one update post.
Thank you for reading.
Hey, thank you for following the thread. I am optimistically looking at early next week to re-open. Admittedly a smaller re-stock of certain items due to a customs seizure. I am also testing out new raws sources. One being RedLion due to a recommendation of a friend who makes his own product as well. The Tren ace has been largely underwhelming due to local feedback, it's one product I like to test early with new sources as it can be run at a higher dose and feedback received relatively quickly. This development, along with the slower shipping and inadequate customer service has caused me to reject this raws supplier at this point in time. I am also working with Muscle-Depot, their prices are higher but their quality is yet to be seen. As always, I am trying to be as transparent as possible here as I do not have access to any raws providers that others do not have access to. All I can do is try my best to Labmax, test with local customers, and bring to online customers. I would be more than happy to pay more for higher quality raws. As with this sales halt, hopefully I have shown some indication that money and profit are not the sole drivers of this small business and that I am taking the time and resources to try and bring somewhat quality product to customers. But admittedly, I am at the mercy of my suppliers. If there are issues with product, please bring it up with me and I'll try my best to identify the cause, try to fix it and try to work with you.
This guys sounds like Spetz!
Get ready to get butt fucked!
Get ready to get butt fucked!
Customs seized a order a Raws from you? I hope it wasn't a big order that was adressed to you. most domestic source bust starts with customs seizing Raws enroute to a source. buyer beware.
