It may have been the ones that I posted, I am not aware of any done by forum members. I understand where the board stands with source testing, but I still thought it would be better than nothing, hope that works with everyone. However, I would love to see more testing done by forum members.
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It may have been the ones that I posted, I am not aware of any done by forum members. I understand where the board stands with source testing, but I still thought it would be better than nothing, hope that works with everyone. However, I would love to see more testing done by forum members.
Ozzy619
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With a 100mgs a day you should get amazing results with a decent tren. Looking forward to how to react or should I say recomp.
Hey all, I've been discussing with our receivers and the increasing and consistent volume of MoneyGram orders is starting to add a feeling of scrutiny. As a result, starting with all new orders that come in, we will be once again trialing Bitcoin only payments.
I understand Bitcoin is very foreign to many people, but let me explain several very easy ways to get and send Bitcoin.
1. Circle.com or Coinbase.com- this it the easiest way to buy and send Bitcoin. For beginners, I would just choose one of these to use as your wallet, basically it holds your Bitcoins for you. Now, if you wish to buy Bitcoins using this service, you will need to link it to your bank account. For most, this is synonymous to showing ID with WU/MG. However, if you would are worried about security and the tracing of your Bitcoin, you can set up an LiteCoin account and use this service shapeshift.io service to send your Bitcoin from your Bitcoin wallet to your Litecoin wallet and back (it does it automatically). This should largely shuffle the tracking of your Bitcoin.
2. Use Localbitcoins.com. Using this service, you can buy Bitcoins using MoneyGram, WU, Cash deposit, Cash in mail, cash in person locally, paypal, etc. Simply ask for my Bitcoin wallet address, pay the verified and trusted Bitcoin seller on localbitcoins and he/she will send the Bitcoin directly into my Bitcoin wallet. Or the seller can send the Bitcoin to your own wallet at Circle.com or Coinbase.com. Then you send that Bitcoin to me.
Method 1 takes a few days to verify to be able to buy Bitcoins, but you can do so easily and without going to the store.
Method 2 can be done instantly and today, and you have more options for payment options. Instead of sending WU/MG, etc to me, you send it to another verified individual on LocalBitcoins and he/she sends me the Bitcoin.
I know another concern is the fluctuations in Bitcoin value, this will be a non-issue with us. I will give you a quote in current Bitcoin rate and cash that is all you have to send the lowest value one. So if the price goes up or down, you will be protected from losing money from this change.
I know for some this may seem daunting and frustrating, but please understand that this is the direction that may sources are following for the safety of themselves and their customers. If you take the time now, it will save you time in the future in terms of going to the store to send WU/MG. For those adopters, I promise you this form of payment will be immensely easier for you- it just takes an initial investment of time.
Feel free to ask me any questions.
Thanks for reading.
I understand Bitcoin is very foreign to many people, but let me explain several very easy ways to get and send Bitcoin.
1. Circle.com or Coinbase.com- this it the easiest way to buy and send Bitcoin. For beginners, I would just choose one of these to use as your wallet, basically it holds your Bitcoins for you. Now, if you wish to buy Bitcoins using this service, you will need to link it to your bank account. For most, this is synonymous to showing ID with WU/MG. However, if you would are worried about security and the tracing of your Bitcoin, you can set up an LiteCoin account and use this service shapeshift.io service to send your Bitcoin from your Bitcoin wallet to your Litecoin wallet and back (it does it automatically). This should largely shuffle the tracking of your Bitcoin.
2. Use Localbitcoins.com. Using this service, you can buy Bitcoins using MoneyGram, WU, Cash deposit, Cash in mail, cash in person locally, paypal, etc. Simply ask for my Bitcoin wallet address, pay the verified and trusted Bitcoin seller on localbitcoins and he/she will send the Bitcoin directly into my Bitcoin wallet. Or the seller can send the Bitcoin to your own wallet at Circle.com or Coinbase.com. Then you send that Bitcoin to me.
Method 1 takes a few days to verify to be able to buy Bitcoins, but you can do so easily and without going to the store.
Method 2 can be done instantly and today, and you have more options for payment options. Instead of sending WU/MG, etc to me, you send it to another verified individual on LocalBitcoins and he/she sends me the Bitcoin.
I know another concern is the fluctuations in Bitcoin value, this will be a non-issue with us. I will give you a quote in current Bitcoin rate and cash that is all you have to send the lowest value one. So if the price goes up or down, you will be protected from losing money from this change.
I know for some this may seem daunting and frustrating, but please understand that this is the direction that may sources are following for the safety of themselves and their customers. If you take the time now, it will save you time in the future in terms of going to the store to send WU/MG. For those adopters, I promise you this form of payment will be immensely easier for you- it just takes an initial investment of time.
Feel free to ask me any questions.
Thanks for reading.
Hey,
I just missed the 15min edit deadline, but here's also a great link that has lots of different options for buying Bitcoin: http://howtobuybitcoins.info/us.html
Some have asked me about Paypal, but the above link provides services that you can even buy Bitcoin with your debit/credit card.
Please take a look when you get a chance and adopt to our new policies.
Thanks
I just missed the 15min edit deadline, but here's also a great link that has lots of different options for buying Bitcoin: http://howtobuybitcoins.info/us.html
Some have asked me about Paypal, but the above link provides services that you can even buy Bitcoin with your debit/credit card.
Please take a look when you get a chance and adopt to our new policies.
Thanks
sin
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Isn't bitcoin bought on localbitcoin deposited directly to your localbitcoin wallet? How am I to have them deposit it to your wallet if it's held in escrow and then deposited to my localbitcoin wallet?
xgunx
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Anyone thinking abkut btc needs to do some research on it, and blending.
Great questions. So with localbitcoin, you can use escrow and have it deposited into your localbitcoin wallet or you can have it deposited directly into my wallet. Once you receive the Bitcoin into your localbitcoin wallet, it serves like any Bitcoin wallet. You can simply send it to the Bitcoin address I provide you (which sends the Bitcoin to my wallet). Does that help clarify?
Agreed, for those who wish to have the extra security, please consider tumbling your Bitcoin. An easy method is what I described in #1.
However, once I receive your Bitcoins, I always tumble it again on my side. This way, your involvement within the "tracing" or blockchain is scrambled. I will have tumbling on my side so it is not absolutely necessary on your side, but if you wish for the extra security and then please also tumble on your side.
sin
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Wasn't aware there was an option to not have it delivered to your own localbitcoin wallet. Still, Idk how i feel about having a stranger unknowingly a part of an illegal transaction on my behalf.
Ozzy619
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There are options besides bitcoin, wu or moneygram. Bitcoin is a great way to reduce sales as it is foreign to most and most are not willing to figure it out, myself included.
I have a strong feeling this bitcoin trial wont last long
I have a strong feeling this bitcoin trial wont last long
Hey, yes some sellers will send it to any wallet address you provide to them. Same with many of the Bitcoin services provided in my earlier link. One of the reasons sources through different black markets use Bitcoin is the anonymity of it. It is much safer for all parties involved than WU/MG and the purchase and trading of Bitcoin is legal.
Edit: It is also arguable that WU/MG transfers are also strangers taking part unknowingly in an illegal transaction. One of the primary reasons we stopped accepting WU was because our receivers were getting denied pick-up due to potential involvement in illegal transactions.
I completely understand, but our #1 priority throughout all this is our safety. If we are caught or jeopardized then it could jeopardize past, current, and future customers. I understand the sentiment that it is foreign and seems complicated but I just ask that interested customers take 10-15 minutes to take a look at the multiple ways to purchase Bitcoin. I believe there is a mis-perception of the complexity of Bitcoin because in the earlier days it was complex to use. These days there are many options that make the entire process very simple and fast. If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to ask.
Ozzy619
Well-known Member
Its your business and your safety so feel free to do as you please. Im just speaking from what Ive seen in the past when labs do bitcoin only. Im sure its alot easier then people believe and most likely alot safer. Im sure it will be more popular in the future but its hard to break old habits. Good luck.
Thank you for your openness and understanding. I just want to reiterate that safety more important than sales, it should be the number one concern with everyone in this community. Our access to a variety of UGLs has opened up lately and sometimes we forget or neglect the safety component of what we all participate in. This is my way of trying to ensure that we have our safety and our customer's safety in mind.
The observation that "old habits die hard" is absolutely true. My goal is to be here and help everyone through the process. Hopefully we can change and adapt together. This push towards Bitcoin is not only for my personal safety, but also to help community members adapt and learn a new way of payment that is has gained traction through many sources. Of course, I do have sales in mind, but also to help the community move forward in a direction I believe will be beneficial to all.
sin
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I suppose wu/mg does have strangers taking part unknowingly, I just feel like an employ of a business will have more luck defending their actions as just doing their job as opposed to some individual in case something were to ever happen. I understand the move from WU/MG to btc though. It does seem to be safer, assuming one does their research and conducts the transaction in the appropriate manner. idk if localbitcoin is the way to go for that though.
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Thank you for your response. It is my belief that buyers and sellers of Bitcoin are not involved in any illegal business. The seller is simply selling you Bitcoin, and what you do with it cannot be influenced by the seller. An analogy is this: it is perfectly legal for me to purchase Benzyl Alcohol and Vials from Medlabsupplies, however for me to create AAS products with it is not. Medlabsupplies cannot be blamed for my illegal actions because their actions were completely legal and beyond my purchase, they had no dealings with what I did with the product. What are your thoughts on this?
Localbitcoins is just one option, there are many others, I just wanted to give an example.
Thanks for reading.
Check out my many threads on bitcoin. Its alot simpler than you think. You can also buy coins off ebay.
Thank you for your feedback. I understand that as a source, my words may not carry as much weight since I am theoretically here for sales/member's money. So I would really appreciate any and all suggestions you have for members, either in this thread or your own thread. I would argue that your words and advice ring louder than mine, which is completely understandable.
sin
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The buy and selling of bitcoins is not illegal( well, it might be in florida. Search localbitcoin florida and you will see what I mean) ,however, the use of bitcoins to purchase illicit drugs is illegal. If the seller of bitcoins places the bitcoins in your wallet, a proprietor of illicit drugs, then that seller has unknowingly became an accomplice in the purchase, first hand not second hand like your analogy with medlabsupplies. If he sold me the bitcoins and I put them in my wallet then moved them to yours, that's different. But if I hand someone cash to put bitcoins for illegal drugs to be sent to me, they have become an accessory to a crime. It'd be the same if I had someone drop of a WU/MG order, just the same as those picking up the WU/MG orders were an accessory to a crime.
