24k Pharma US Domestic Source

You've sure gained a lot of hook ups since you started...When will you start mass specing your raws?

Hey, thanks for the involvement. This has been a frustrating in trying to find an independent and reliable testing facility. I have a science contact I work to help vet potential hplc/ms contacts, as it is not my area expertise. Here's a few issues we've run into:

1. The lab does not provide adequate proof they can do the analysis, I.e. No standards, no procedures, no proof of working analyzing AAS, results without a detailed analysis of what they did

2. Several labs we have lost contact within the process. Often it's after we've paid and sent the sample. For example, I receive an estimation of x weeks for service and then never hear back or a follow up

3. Accreditation- results from a underground testing facility can be seen as unreliable. I do not intend to work with these testing facilities for fear of legitimacy.

Ultimately, it's not an easy task to find legitimate ms/hplc testing- especially for a source. As our words are seen as bias.

What concerns me is that even independent results from a respected member here are not believed when the results are too good. In all fairness, if there are already expectations and an almost "want" for poor/under dosed results for UGL sources, then I cabbie overcome that regardless of the testing I may do. I am happy to work with the community, but it is difficult to do so if there's no open mindedness. Thanks for reading.
 
Hey, thanks for the involvement. This has been a frustrating in trying to find an independent and reliable testing facility. I have a science contact I work to help vet potential hplc/ms contacts, as it is not my area expertise. Here's a few issues we've run into:

1. The lab does not provide adequate proof they can do the analysis, I.e. No standards, no procedures, no proof of working analyzing AAS, results without a detailed analysis of what they did

2. Several labs we have lost contact within the process. Often it's after we've paid and sent the sample. For example, I receive an estimation of x weeks for service and then never hear back or a follow up

3. Accreditation- results from a underground testing facility can be seen as unreliable. I do not intend to work with these testing facilities for fear of legitimacy.

Ultimately, it's not an easy task to find legitimate ms/hplc testing- especially for a source. As our words are seen as bias.

What concerns me is that even independent results from a respected member here are not believed when the results are too good. In all fairness, if there are already expectations and an almost "want" for poor/under dosed results for UGL sources, then I cabbie overcome that regardless of the testing I may do. I am happy to work with the community, but it is difficult to do so if there's no open mindedness. Thanks for reading.

Fuck man, stop thanking me...,
 
10 years after never. He couldn't give a fuck about anyone's safety.

If someone were to become ill due to his lack of giving a fuck he would be gone the next day.

Hey, thanks for reading. The safety of myself and customers is my top priority. We've actually had some buyers complain of bad PIP, test flu,etc and I've tried my best address their concerns and make it right. Unfortunately, this is not something I can necessarily prove and I will not disclose which customers/members I have helped address. In this case, there is little I can do in terms of talking, I will have to show my intentions with actions.
 
It's only a matter of time. He'll be gone in a month or so guaranteed.

Advice to any member planning on ordering from this clown:

READ THE ENTIRE THREAD

This source is sketchy to say the least and buried a lot of unanswered questions within the thread. These last 10 or so pages make him seem like he's g2g. Stay away many Vets will advise the same

Hey, I try my best to answer all questions or concerns addressed to me. If there are any questions or concerns, please feel free to ask. I believe to date I have not purposefully avoided any questions, but if I have it is my fault that I missed it and I will address them to the best of my ability here. There are some questions that pertain to safety, business model, security, etc that I will not answer, but I will try to address them to the best of my ability.

I again just want to reiterate to all members that there is no obligation to purchase from me. I have been fully transparent with my status as a UGL. Even the pharmaceutical products offered are black market, meaning that the only 100% legitimate product you will get is in person, direct contact with a pharmacy through a script given by a licensed professional. Unfortunately, that is a service I cannot offer. In this market, there are many choices. I ask customers only to purchase from me if you feel confident in my products, communication and safety. Otherwise, I would advise to not purchase from me until you feel confident in doing so. Thanks for reading.
 
Fuck man, stop thanking me...,

My apologies, but it is simply an expression of my appreciation for your involvement in my thread and business. I also understand you are looking out for other members and the community as a whole. I believe it is professional to thank all those who read, follow, and comment on my thread regardless of their support for my actions.
 
I know who you are 24 and have enough evidence to conclude my suspicion.

Hey, I believe this point has been brought up before and some members have accused me of being a previous source. I can guarantee that I have not sourced before and that this is my first venture after my initial start up on Reddit. That being said, I take safety very seriously. I respect the anonymity of customers and members that contact me and provide sensitive information. I would ask for that same respect to the community. All shipping and receiving are done remotely, but I cannot go into specific details. The reason I value safety and security so much for both myself and my customers is that if I am somehow compromised it is also possible that customers, and thus members of this board, are also compromised. I'm happy to address your specific concerns if they pertain sensitive information in private, but if it's general questions, I can address those in public. Thanks for reading.
 
The evidence stacks up. A least you doing a better job this time. And you location does not lie. Im not going to attack you or try to bring you down. And of course you will never tell the truth. History does repeat its self.
No Face No Eyes Always Watching.
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The evidence stacks up. A least you doing a better job this time. And you location does not lie. Im not going to attack you or try to bring you down. And of course you will never tell the truth. History does repeat its self.
No Face No Eyes Always Watching.
[emoji185]
Come on now....Why wouldn't you inform other members of who this source was previous to this? Seems like useful information for people to base their decisions off of
 
Its obvious. And everyone knows it
So everyone should know better.
History does and will repeat its self.
Right Tom.
Every one has been warned. Now for member's to make there own decision.
 
Hey,

I will try to address some concerns that a few members have brought up. However, these concerns have been addressed before and admittedly there is only so much I can say or do that will convince everyone.

I can guarantee that the only place I have sourced before this is on Reddit and that I have not sourced before on a different name. I am confused as to why having more offerings in terms of product is being used as a negative on my part. Early on in my thread, I was asked about AI/PCT and I said I would not stock them unless they were pharmaceutical grade because I do not endorse using UGL quality of such an important AAS component. After a few months, I was able to work with and develop a source of pharmaceutical grade AI/PCT, specifically at the request of members. Now to try and use this offering against me, makes me wary of trying to bring more and better products to the community. It almost seems as a lose-lose scenario, because members are calling for more products (orals, HCG, cheaper HGH, pharmaceutical grade injectables), but when we do, it is used as a negative aspect against us.

Furthermore, I respect that members thus far have not discussed actual locations. I am not concerned about my personal location, as I have multiple security measures to protect my identity. But, I do give tracking for those members who do not receive their package in a timely matter. This is solely for the benefit of customers and I ask that shipping locations not be discussed for safety reasons. I take this very seriously. I put faith into the individuals I work with and in return they put faith in me to keep them safe. I will not compromise when it comes to safety of myself and the individuals I work with. As stated before, this should also be a top priority to the community- the safety of myself and buyers are inter-weaved as soon as we send out product with your address on it. So again, let's please keep safety of everyone in mind when we discuss sensitive topics in public.

As one last point, I am realistic and I am wary of the board's culture. There are some opinions that I will not be able to change no matter what I do or say. I have been here several months and have tried my best to show through words and actions that I am trying to provide a service and product at a fair price, that I value your business and am willing to work to make it right. I appreciate the support that I have received and I am willing to address any questions or concerns. But at the same time, there is only so much I can do to address issues that some members adamantly believe. I understand there are preconceived notions about UGLs, and especially here on Meso. That is why I have asked contributors and readers to come with an open mind. If we approach all scenarios with an outcome we already know, then we will never advance. It traps us in an everlasting cycle in which those individuals and results who go against the status quo are put down, thus continuing the status quo.

Ultimately, there becomes a point where if I cannot convince individuals at that time, I will never be able to convince them. And that's acceptable, I understand I will never have everyone on my side. My ask is that we have an open minded discussion. To attack my business based on the belief that I am the same individual or successor of a previously frowned upon source is largely unfair in my opinion. To punish all UGLs, without giving them a chance, based on the actions of their forerunners will never move the community forward. I have observed and taken note of what sources before me have done wrong. I try and take those observations and model my business so that I will avoid the same pitfalls. I believe this is how we can work towards making a better marketplace.

Thanks for reading.
 
Hey,

I will try to address some concerns that a few members have brought up. However, these concerns have been addressed before and admittedly there is only so much I can say or do that will convince everyone.

I can guarantee that the only place I have sourced before this is on Reddit and that I have not sourced before on a different name. I am confused as to why having more offerings in terms of product is being used as a negative on my part. Early on in my thread, I was asked about AI/PCT and I said I would not stock them unless they were pharmaceutical grade because I do not endorse using UGL quality of such an important AAS component. After a few months, I was able to work with and develop a source of pharmaceutical grade AI/PCT, specifically at the request of members. Now to try and use this offering against me, makes me wary of trying to bring more and better products to the community. It almost seems as a lose-lose scenario, because members are calling for more products (orals, HCG, cheaper HGH, pharmaceutical grade injectables), but when we do, it is used as a negative aspect against us.

Furthermore, I respect that members thus far have not discussed actual locations. I am not concerned about my personal location, as I have multiple security measures to protect my identity. But, I do give tracking for those members who do not receive their package in a timely matter. This is solely for the benefit of customers and I ask that shipping locations not be discussed for safety reasons. I take this very seriously. I put faith into the individuals I work with and in return they put faith in me to keep them safe. I will not compromise when it comes to safety of myself and the individuals I work with. As stated before, this should also be a top priority to the community- the safety of myself and buyers are inter-weaved as soon as we send out product with your address on it. So again, let's please keep safety of everyone in mind when we discuss sensitive topics in public.

As one last point, I am realistic and I am wary of the board's culture. There are some opinions that I will not be able to change no matter what I do or say. I have been here several months and have tried my best to show through words and actions that I am trying to provide a service and product at a fair price, that I value your business and am willing to work to make it right. I appreciate the support that I have received and I am willing to address any questions or concerns. But at the same time, there is only so much I can do to address issues that some members adamantly believe. I understand there are preconceived notions about UGLs, and especially here on Meso. That is why I have asked contributors and readers to come with an open mind. If we approach all scenarios with an outcome we already know, then we will never advance. It traps us in an everlasting cycle in which those individuals and results who go against the status quo are put down, thus continuing the status quo.

Ultimately, there becomes a point where if I cannot convince individuals at that time, I will never be able to convince them. And that's acceptable, I understand I will never have everyone on my side. My ask is that we have an open minded discussion. To attack my business based on the belief that I am the same individual or successor of a previously frowned upon source is largely unfair in my opinion. To punish all UGLs, without giving them a chance, based on the actions of their forerunners will never move the community forward. I have observed and taken note of what sources before me have done wrong. I try and take those observations and model my business so that I will avoid the same pitfalls. I believe this is how we can work towards making a better marketplace.

Thanks for reading.

Dude cut the shit you're not some savior coming to rescue meso from other UGLs. You can't even offer quality control..
 
Dude cut the shit you're not some savior coming to rescue meso from other UGLs. You can't even offer quality control..

I apologize if I came off that way, that is not my intention. My ask for some open-mindedness and to not prosecute my business based on the actions of others.

Throughout this thread, I have been clear that I cannot offering pharmaceutical grade injectable products. I have made no qualms about the quality of my products and have been transparent with the level of QA they go through. I cannot offer the same level of QA that the FDA provides. But I just ask that we be realistic. I usually do not like to compare myself to other sources- but, for context, even larger international sources, that have been in business for much longer than I have, some members have issues with their QA. A few tests have come back on their products from accredite labs and there is still doubt on the quality of their products. In this regard, I understand that some members will not be convinced and may already have preconceived notions. I just ask for us to be realistic. I have asked that members not buy from me if they're not confident in the quality, because there is nothing guaranteed in the black market. Ideally, I, as many others, would love access to legal and regulated AAS. But unfortunately, the reality is most of us do not have access to the scripts. Customers have a choice, they are in no way obliged to purchase from me and again I ask that they don't if they don't believe in my product or my business.

I am happy to address and issues or concerns, but if I am given an hurdle that is no way passable, one cannot be surprised when I don't jump over it. Essentially, if I have to meet unrealistic expectations, it cannot be surprising that I can't meet them. I just ask that we approach this scenario with a sense of realism.

Thanks for reading.
 
Hey all,

Hope everyone is doing well, just wanted to gauge some interest on what pharmaceutical grade products the community is interested in. Right now we already offer AI, PCT, blood pressure medication, insulin, and HGH. I am thinking of stocking anti-biotics if there's any interest, I've attached a photo of the product. Anti-biotics can be used to help fight off minor infections as well as acne prevention. Pictured is clindamycin.

Happy to try and bring other in demand pharmaceutical products. Scheduled I,II,III drugs are off limits as well as any products that do not have any particular uses in AAS. Please be reasonable as well- quality and price are often directly proportional, so requesting cheap pharmaceutical grade hGH or anavar is not advised.

Thanks for reading.

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I just want to say to all of you that have never taken clindamycin, this is a great acne drug. I dont know this lab and have no promotion but this is a good deal. I get mine from my primary dr so I'm good. An amazing drug. Good job.
 
Its obvious. And everyone knows it
So everyone should know better.
History does and will repeat its self.
Right Tom.
Every one has been warned. Now for member's to make there own decision.

There are new members here now who don't know as for me I would just ask u one thing
Will u buy or consider buying from 24
 
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