26 year old first cycle

[99people99]

Did you get baseline blood work before pinning? That is pretty important. 300 - 400 mg test and HCG is a good starting point. Go for 16 - 20 weeks. Hcg on cycle will likely make PCT much easier. At 8 - 10 weeks get blood work to see where you're at and how your body is responding. Also, be patient. Many people on their first cycle think they should have made way more progress than they have by week four or so and are tempted to start upping the dose or adding other compounds. Do you have AI on hand? If you don't, I would get one from a domestic source immediately. You want to have that around in case you need it.

Your physique is already pretty stellar man. If you do the 350 mg like you stated on top of your obvious, good discipline, good diet, and good training regimen you already have you are about to get some insane results. I'm definitely following this one and good luck with your goals!

Yes, I have baseline bloodwork. Everything is perfect except I have chronic
low total (121 ng/dl) and free test (2.2 pg/ml), and t3 (50 ng/dl) for 2 years now. I attribute it to the amount I train and dieting year round. Also being low body fat.

I echo everyone saying test only. Start low and taper up until you get side effects then reduce the dose. Keep an eye on bp and bloodwork, you’ll be fine.

You look fucking sick bro, incredible starting point to EAT (seriously. Eat. like a lot. you won’t get fat) You're in a great spot to lean bulk for 1-2 years before needing to reset

Thank you!

One important argument for Testosterone solo for your first time is for you to see how you feel on it alone and in case you get side effects you will better understand why and act quickly to prevent them. It will serve as a base in your future blasts, so you will know exactly how sensitive or not you are. From there on you will know how much T to use next time and how to adjust your protocol when you introduce another anabolic.

I suggest to not follow my example as years ago my first blast was Testosterone and dbol. I got crazy estrogen spikes, blood pressure issues, acne, excessive water retention, no sex drive and in general feeling off mid cycle. I also got bunk anastrozole, which I thought was legit. Luckily where I live, I was able to get it from pharmacy, but time was unnecessary wasted and I felt like shit for a week.

I still managed to get great results, but it could have been a lot smoother ride.

Will definitely follow this advice.

 

[Anonymous#1]

Out of curiosity what was your shgb at?

 

[99people99]

Out of curiosity what was your shgb at?

It was at 41 nmol/L

 

[UncleBuns]

Yes, I have baseline bloodwork. Everything is perfect except I have chronic
low total (121 ng/dl) and free test (2.2 pg/ml), and t3 (50 ng/dl) for 2 years now. I attribute it to the amount I train and dieting year round. Also being low body fat.

Thank you!

Will definitely follow this advice.

Nice! Yeah, that's one of the bummers of being really lean and natty. I lean out seasonally for athletic performance and the difference between TRT and lean or lean and natty is night and day. Natural I could only sustain the leanness and perform for a short period of time. On trt or especially trt + I'm able to stay lean and perform well for much longer and feel good too.

Sounds like you're doing things safely. Keep us updated.

 

[lukiss96]

, I have baseline bloodwork. Everything is perfect except I have chronic
low total (121 ng/dl) and free test (2.2 pg/ml), and t3 (50 ng/dl) for 2 years now. I attribute it to the amount I train and dieting year round. Also being low body fat.

Yes, you're shredded individual. Naturally human body is not designed to survive long enough in this state. Steroids are powerful tool to gain weight or maintain it, as shown in studies on patients who have muscle wasting diseases. So for a healthy individual this effect is even more pronounced.

There are obviously lots of mechanisms responsible for hormonal profile, but as far as we know long term calorie deficit and very low body fat percentage causes hormones to be out of balance.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Either way, I think you will do great bro!

 

[MiXiN]

Good luck with the cycle, & I agree with all advice offered here.

Way back in 1993 when I did my first cycle at 23 years old, the "run of the mill" cycle was 30mG Dianabol PD, 500mG Sustanon PW, and 400mG Deca PW.

I thought it was a great cycle, but there was no internet back then - so you just took advice from the big guy at the gym', and they all suggested the Deca, Sus, & Dbol cycle.

Fortunately, we now have access to easily accessible & mostly good information on the internet, and if I'd have known back then, I'd have just taken the Sustanon.

 

[RomanMVP]

Good luck with the cycle, & I agree with all advice offered here.

Way back in 1993 when I did my first cycle at 23 years old, the "run of the mill" cycle was 30mG Dianabol PD, 500mG Sustanon PW, and 400mG Deca PW.

I thought it was a great cycle, but there was no internet back then - so you just took advice from the big guy at the gym', and they all suggested the Deca, Sus, & Dbol cycle.

Fortunately, we now have access to easily accessible & mostly good information on the internet, and if I'd have known back then, I'd have just taken the Sustanon.

That is the exact cycle I first used back in the 80s. Never regretted it. The size piled on.

 

[99people99]

Hey guys. @MiXiN , @Spaceman Spiff, @lukiss96, @UncleBuns I have been doing 100mg eod. 3 injections in. This morning I woke up with a headache and am out of breath easy all day so I checked my blood pressure.

Before the cycle it was always 110/60. This afternoon it read 130/85. Could this be estrogen (water rentention)?

As you all know I eat very clean. I know you will tell me to get labs but In NY it is difficult to get them whenever you want (also I am only a week in the cycyle). I have to plan ahead for that (which I will do around 6 weeks in).

I have Aromasin on hand but I do not want to be that newbie popping AIs for no reason.

Other than the headache, water retention and high blood pressure I feel absolutely amazing.

Will appreciate the advice

 

[lukiss96]

Hey guys. @MiXiN , @Spaceman Spiff, @lukiss96, @UncleBuns I have been doing 100mg eod. 3 injections in. This morning I woke up with a headache and am out of breath easy all day so I checked my blood pressure.

Before the cycle it was always 110/60. This afternoon it read 130/85. Could this be estrogen (water rentention)?

As you all know I eat very clean. I know you will tell me to get labs but In NY it is difficult to get them whenever you want (also I am only a week in the cycyle). I have to plan ahead for that (which I will do around 6 weeks in).

I have Aromasin on hand but I do not want to be that newbie popping AIs for no reason.

Other than the headache, water retention and high blood pressure I feel absolutely amazing.

Will appreciate the advice

You gained weight perhaps too much for what your body can handle in a short time, given your light weight and previous nutrition most of the time in calorie deficit.

That weight gain is stressing your body and heart or course. Hydration, watching your sodium intake, electrolytes and cardio perhaps all there is to it except for medication.

You should wait a bit more time and do your best regulating blood pressure with diet mostly. See if your body adapts, it might take some time though.

You need to get at least an idea where your e2 is (preferable sensitive) so you don't have to randomly pop AI and aromasin being a suicide AI is nothing to play with. I suggest anastrozole in any case. I'm too sensitive to estrogen, I have hard time controlling it on specific Testosterone esters. It took me a while before I felt good on TE/TC.

If you happen to crash estrogen you will feel even worse, it might help slightly with BP, but not a guarantee.

There are lots to AAS other than just estrogen causing issues. Some people are sensitive. Mostly it is rapid weight gained and yes mainly due to water retention.

Your body needs time to adapt to your new weight.

 

[99people99]

You gained weight perhaps too much for what your body can handle in a short time, given your light weight and previous nutrition most of the time in calorie deficit.

That weight gain is stressing your body and heart or course. Hydration, watching your sodium intake, electrolytes and cardio perhaps all there is to it except for medication.

You should wait a bit more time and do your best regulating blood pressure with diet mostly. See if your body adapts, it might take some time though.

You need to get at least an idea where your e2 is (preferable sensitive) so you don't have to randomly pop AI and aromasin being a suicide AI is nothing to play with. I suggest anastrozole in any case. I'm too sensitive to estrogen, I have hard time controlling it on specific Testosterone esters. It took me a while before I felt good on TE/TC.

If you happen to crash estrogen you will feel even worse, it might help slightly with BP, but not a guarantee.

There is lots to AAS other than just estrogen causing issues. Some people are sensitive. Mostly it is rapid weight gained and yes mainly due to water retention.

Your body needs time to adapt to your new weight.

Thanks for the advice.

That makes alot of sense to me. I have gained 7 pounds since Saturday with no change in diet. Before that I was 160 for almost two years so it probably shocked my body like you explained. I will wait it out and see if it worsens.

I do 45 min fasted cardio every morning (135 heart rate). My diet is in check, I will watch sodium for now on. Pre-enhanced I loved the pumps it gave me haha. I think that may have been the culprit.

 

[lukiss96]

Thanks for the advice.

That makes alot of sense to me. I have gained 7 pounds since Saturday with no change in diet. Before that I was 160 for almost two years so it probably shocked my body like you explained. I will wait it out and see if it worsens.

I do 45 min fasted cardio every morning (135 heart rate). My diet is in check, I will watch sodium for now on. Pre-enhanced I loved the pumps it gave me haha. I think that may have been the culprit.

It's normal reaction I believe, some will say that perhaps everything should be perfect, but I believe body is not a perfect machine.

I see that your diet habits are exemplary. Truly discipline is not your weakness. So I have no doubt you nail it there and cardio too. This is a requisite to stay shredded for that long.

Be careful with stimulants and minimize caffeine intake. Eliminate if necessary (I had to on anadrol cycle once and had to use lisinopril a BP med for that period).

If you need slight reduction then a cialis is a good option, although some say that it's poor for that reason. For me it knocks off 5-10 points.

Your blood pressure is not dangerously high mind you, but if you continue to gain weight then it can creep to 150 that's where you don't want to be. 130's are my normal, but then I'm quite a lot heavier. I have isolated mild hypertension meaning that my diastolic is 80 (perfect) and systolic is 130-136 (with cialis).

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Hey guys. @MiXiN , @Spaceman Spiff, @lukiss96, @UncleBuns I have been doing 100mg eod. 3 injections in. This morning I woke up with a headache and am out of breath easy all day so I checked my blood pressure.

Before the cycle it was always 110/60. This afternoon it read 130/85. Could this be estrogen (water rentention)?

As you all know I eat very clean. I know you will tell me to get labs but In NY it is difficult to get them whenever you want (also I am only a week in the cycyle). I have to plan ahead for that (which I will do around 6 weeks in).

I have Aromasin on hand but I do not want to be that newbie popping AIs for no reason.

Other than the headache, water retention and high blood pressure I feel absolutely amazing.

Will appreciate the advice

Could be estrogen, angiotensin levels causing hypertension.

Is that BP one read or multiple reads?

 

[99people99]

Could be estrogen, angiotensin levels causing hypertension.

Is that BP one read or multiple reads?

Multiple reads

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I would say let time pass and things stabilize. not a number I would be concerned about.

Could be E2 or androgen related(Increasing angiotensin levels)


just keep an eye on it

 

[Pulpfiction]

My first cycle was test 400. Then second I added winny into the mix. The level of strength i felt from just test as my first cycle has yet to be matched.

 

[99people99]

@Spaceman Spiff @lukiss96 You were right my blood pressure came down to 128/60.

However I need your advice again. The past few days I noticed when I take my socks off there is a weird indent in my skin. My skin seems to have a film over it, like my veins are not visible like usual. Also, all my erections (including morning wood) are soft. My libido is still there just cant keep it up (past 2 days). Also my nipples are larger and have pains under them.

I got a bloods done today (1 week into cycle) the female hormone panel from labsmd. I figured better to get them more frequently than too little. Should I take 20 mg nolva until my bloods come back in 4-5 days incase my intuition is correct that my e2 is high? Or is that a dumb idea? I am injecting 100mg eod, tonight is my next injection,

Thanks

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You can start nolvadex before you even grab labs


What AI do you have in hand? Honestly as long as you have blood taken prior to an AI I would go ahead and do half a dose. But that's me. Especially with those symptoms

 

[99people99]

You can start nolvadex before you even grab labs


What AI do you have in hand? Honestly as long as you have blood taken prior to an AI I would go ahead and do half a dose. But that's me. Especially with those symptoms

I have aromasin in liquid suspension form. When you say half dose you mean like 6.25 mg with shot tn?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I have aromasin in liquid suspension form. When you say half dose you mean like 6.25 mg with shot tn?

Normal dose of aromasin is 25mg.

So take 12.5

Make sure you shake up the suspension like crazy before withdrawing it.