So to motivate myself to keep diet and training in check, i will create a log here, commentating my recovery from a 3.5 years 'cycle' of AAS use.
Also this may be quite educational for people who think about start using steroids, especially the young ones.
All I am going to talk about in here, is based on personal experience and im going to be as detailed as possible.
I am 23 right now myself, I started my first injection of testosterone shortly after my 20th birthday.
Before I started juicing, I have been training for 3 and a half years, all natural, never had any training logs, but I remember weighing around 60kgs when I started training at 5'8 height.
After those years of natural training, I was around 90kgs, of course fairly high body fat percentage, but I had a little belly when I started training at 16 already.
I had noone to teach me how to lift, no one to show me how to diet properly, all I knew back than, and actually all I know now, comes from internet research, from error and trial, watching my body change on certain training routines, diets, cycles.
Before I continue, Id like to ask certain people if they could at least stop their trolling/flaming in this thread, its more of a personal thing, and like I said educational thing because I could never find a detailed pct log from years of abuse after countless hours of researching.
So if you did not do the same thing as me (even though its not smart) and youve just ran a bunch of 10 week cycles and come here to talk shit now, fuck off and go play in the ball pit.
So lets continue with my small introduction.
My first 'cycle' was, like every beginners cycle should be, test enanthate 250mg e5d.
I ran it for almost half a year, gained alot of weight, strength, puffy, water and fat as fuck.
Then I changed source, and I have got ahold of some fakes. And I shot those fakes for almost another half a year, wondering why strength doesnt increase, size doesnt increase, but weight increase, because I was getting fatter. So after almost another 6 months of shooting fake gear, I found out I had the testosterone level of an infant. Talked about it with the source, boom, got ahold of alpha pharma test, thats where everything went up.
So 6 months of test e 250mg e5d, 6 months of olive oil, 2 and a half more years of minimum 750mg testosterone enanthate or cypionate a week.
Yep I didnt blast and cruise, I blasted the ongoing 2.5 years at a fairly high dose, a minimum of 500mg e5d (750mg a week), sometimes did 750mg e5d (1g a week), sometimes added in tren ace at 350mg for a few weeks, tren enanthate at 700mg for a few weeks, I had used dbols, short 3 or 4 week blast of deca 400mg a week, lots of clen cycles.
So in this 2.5 year period I did test, tren, deca, dbols and clen, the tren i did mostly for like 8 weeks, had 1 or 2 months off, upped my test in that off period , then did another trenblast so pretty crazy and uncontrolled abuse of steroids.
What I learned from this?
Steroids wont do shit for you if you dont do shit.
Tren is useless if youre not gonna do that cardio and proper training.
Its not all about taking shit, it wont replace a proper diet and proper training.
Most of the 'crazy' dosages were in 2015, in 2016 I only had 2 tren hex runs, both around 2 months, in the very beginning and then before christmas time, controlled, low dosed and way better body and strength than on the crazy dosages.
So how did my body change over time?
well like i said, when i had my first injection i was around 90kgs, I did the typical bulk and cut approach, I enjoy food too much to be consistent year around.
So my highest weight basically was in august 2016, at 115kg at 5'8.
Since then ive been dieting, now im almost down to 90kg, lowest bodyfat I have been in my entire life, almost the strongest I have been in my entire life.
Currently I run test propionate, 0.7ml eod, to have 250mg a week, tapering off from enanthate, let it flush out.
Same time i am on 4ius of hgh ed.
I will continue to shoot 4 ius of hgh throughout my pct, to help with training recovery and to help keep as much tissue as possible.
I decided to make my pct look like this:
I will start the hcg shots, when I have 10 days of test propionate left (20 days hcg protocol from power pct)
10 days of hcg, at 2000iu EOD
-LAST PROPIONATE PIN
10 days of hcg, at 2000iu EOD
2 days after my last hcg shot I start the SERMS:
4 weeks clomid at 50mg ed
6 weeks nolva at 20mg ed
So I will keep this updated with training progression, bloodlevels, random statements how training went, how I feel like and stuff like that.
Oh, and for the shittalkers,
my trainingspartner who did the exact same cycle as me, went off cold turkey in november, no pct no nothing, as advised by his endo, and got positive bloodwork back today.
Ranges are in the lower end, but went back up from being 0, so no neighbours gonna bang my future wife, im looking at you justfish lol
Also this may be quite educational for people who think about start using steroids, especially the young ones.
All I am going to talk about in here, is based on personal experience and im going to be as detailed as possible.
I am 23 right now myself, I started my first injection of testosterone shortly after my 20th birthday.
Before I started juicing, I have been training for 3 and a half years, all natural, never had any training logs, but I remember weighing around 60kgs when I started training at 5'8 height.
After those years of natural training, I was around 90kgs, of course fairly high body fat percentage, but I had a little belly when I started training at 16 already.
I had noone to teach me how to lift, no one to show me how to diet properly, all I knew back than, and actually all I know now, comes from internet research, from error and trial, watching my body change on certain training routines, diets, cycles.
Before I continue, Id like to ask certain people if they could at least stop their trolling/flaming in this thread, its more of a personal thing, and like I said educational thing because I could never find a detailed pct log from years of abuse after countless hours of researching.
So if you did not do the same thing as me (even though its not smart) and youve just ran a bunch of 10 week cycles and come here to talk shit now, fuck off and go play in the ball pit.
So lets continue with my small introduction.
My first 'cycle' was, like every beginners cycle should be, test enanthate 250mg e5d.
I ran it for almost half a year, gained alot of weight, strength, puffy, water and fat as fuck.
Then I changed source, and I have got ahold of some fakes. And I shot those fakes for almost another half a year, wondering why strength doesnt increase, size doesnt increase, but weight increase, because I was getting fatter. So after almost another 6 months of shooting fake gear, I found out I had the testosterone level of an infant. Talked about it with the source, boom, got ahold of alpha pharma test, thats where everything went up.
So 6 months of test e 250mg e5d, 6 months of olive oil, 2 and a half more years of minimum 750mg testosterone enanthate or cypionate a week.
Yep I didnt blast and cruise, I blasted the ongoing 2.5 years at a fairly high dose, a minimum of 500mg e5d (750mg a week), sometimes did 750mg e5d (1g a week), sometimes added in tren ace at 350mg for a few weeks, tren enanthate at 700mg for a few weeks, I had used dbols, short 3 or 4 week blast of deca 400mg a week, lots of clen cycles.
So in this 2.5 year period I did test, tren, deca, dbols and clen, the tren i did mostly for like 8 weeks, had 1 or 2 months off, upped my test in that off period , then did another trenblast so pretty crazy and uncontrolled abuse of steroids.
What I learned from this?
Steroids wont do shit for you if you dont do shit.
Tren is useless if youre not gonna do that cardio and proper training.
Its not all about taking shit, it wont replace a proper diet and proper training.
Most of the 'crazy' dosages were in 2015, in 2016 I only had 2 tren hex runs, both around 2 months, in the very beginning and then before christmas time, controlled, low dosed and way better body and strength than on the crazy dosages.
So how did my body change over time?
well like i said, when i had my first injection i was around 90kgs, I did the typical bulk and cut approach, I enjoy food too much to be consistent year around.
So my highest weight basically was in august 2016, at 115kg at 5'8.
Since then ive been dieting, now im almost down to 90kg, lowest bodyfat I have been in my entire life, almost the strongest I have been in my entire life.
Currently I run test propionate, 0.7ml eod, to have 250mg a week, tapering off from enanthate, let it flush out.
Same time i am on 4ius of hgh ed.
I will continue to shoot 4 ius of hgh throughout my pct, to help with training recovery and to help keep as much tissue as possible.
I decided to make my pct look like this:
I will start the hcg shots, when I have 10 days of test propionate left (20 days hcg protocol from power pct)
10 days of hcg, at 2000iu EOD
-LAST PROPIONATE PIN
10 days of hcg, at 2000iu EOD
2 days after my last hcg shot I start the SERMS:
4 weeks clomid at 50mg ed
6 weeks nolva at 20mg ed
So I will keep this updated with training progression, bloodlevels, random statements how training went, how I feel like and stuff like that.
Oh, and for the shittalkers,
my trainingspartner who did the exact same cycle as me, went off cold turkey in november, no pct no nothing, as advised by his endo, and got positive bloodwork back today.
Ranges are in the lower end, but went back up from being 0, so no neighbours gonna bang my future wife, im looking at you justfish lol
