3.5 years Steroids recovery log

[nervje]

Long time since last update.
Very unmotivated to train, i sit at arond 93kgs right now, from 98kg when i stopped the aas.
Not much hunger all day at all, i have to force myself to eat, and mostly i eat random stuff but try to get as clean as possible with my food.
Got myself cialis as my dick wouldnt stay hard during sex, i assume estrogen problems or something like that. With cialis its hard like oncycle, alhtough my libido stays low and i dont really care about sex much.
If estrogen is elevated, will it even out overtime or will i have to get my hands on some ai?
will get bloods in june so i see whats up.
I hope for at least a bit of improvement in bloods, at least lh and fsh.

 

[Erin]

Long time since last update.
Very unmotivated to train, i sit at arond 93kgs right now, from 98kg when i stopped the aas.
Not much hunger all day at all, i have to force myself to eat, and mostly i eat random stuff but try to get as clean as possible with my food.
Got myself cialis as my dick wouldnt stay hard during sex, i assume estrogen problems or something like that. With cialis its hard like oncycle, alhtough my libido stays low and i dont really care about sex much.
If estrogen is elevated, will it even out overtime or will i have to get my hands on some ai?
will get bloods in june so i see whats up.
I hope for at least a bit of improvement in bloods, at least lh and fsh.

I would have tried to get blood tests every month to keep a closer eye on whatever might be going on. Can you get your next blood test now, and stretch it out to 45 days between tests?

 

[TRT]

Long time since last update.
Very unmotivated to train, i sit at arond 93kgs right now, from 98kg when i stopped the aas.
Not much hunger all day at all, i have to force myself to eat, and mostly i eat random stuff but try to get as clean as possible with my food.
Got myself cialis as my dick wouldnt stay hard during sex, i assume estrogen problems or something like that. With cialis its hard like oncycle, alhtough my libido stays low and i dont really care about sex much.
If estrogen is elevated, will it even out overtime or will i have to get my hands on some ai?
will get bloods in june so i see whats up.
I hope for at least a bit of improvement in bloods, at least lh and fsh.

Don't care much for sex? Sounds like me during low T testing.

 

[Rockclimber]

Thanks for the update, it takes balls to admit a lot of what you are... I do think you will recover eventually but will probably choose TRT. Get your blood work done.

 

[nervje]

Don't care much for sex? Sounds like me during low T testing.

yes most likely, i mean i didnt expecr ro have normal test levels 2 montgs post cycle.

Thanks for the update, it takes balls to admit a lot of what you are... I do think you will recover eventually but will probably choose TRT. Get your blood work done.

tbh i wouldnt mind having to go on trt.
I dont really care about testosterone recovery, but my main concern is fertility.
I want a kid with my girl and am afraid ill nevee get one when i keep doing aas. Thats the only thing i aim for right now

 

[Dr JIM]

Good post.. truth be known we all were probably dumb asses on first cycles... I like the honesty.. I have spent over 500 hours researching shit.. I wish I would have known more at a young age..

Chances are you knew much more than you're willing to admit but simply ignored the advice of those who had "been there and done that", choosing instead to follow what your cadre of gym friends were doing.

Call it what you like but the lack of maturity, due diligence, reason and a
limited quest to KNOW the evidence based truth is that which results in a much higher rate of AAS related complications in PED forums youth.

 

[Erin]

Chances are you knew much more than you're willing to admit but simply ignored the advice of those who had "been there and done that", choosing instead to follow what your cadre of gym friends were doing.

Call it what you like but the lack of maturity, due diligence, reason and a
limited quest to KNOW the evidence based truth is that which results in a much higher rate of AAS related complications in PED forums youth.

Very few new AAS users enter this hobby with either the formal medical background or the academic research resources necessary to objectively and systematically minimize complications. Risk tolerance is set by the user's peer group - whether gym cadre or internet forum, and there are both conservative and liberal voices in both groups. Unfortunately, that tolerance only appears to increase over time.

 

[Dr JIM]

^^^^

I could agree more, and those that relegate the use of AAS as some sort of hobby to experimented with often bear the burden of such foolishness.

Yet many of Meso's members refuse to understand the fact AAS are drugs that novice warriors are better off
avoiding completely.

 

[Rockclimber]

So I'm 10 weeks into my current cycle, is this a good time to start my Tren E? I was thinking about running it at a gram a week for 20 weeks .

^^^^

I could agree more, and those that relegate the use of AAS as some sort of hobby to experimented with often bear the burden of such foolishness.

Yet many of Meso's members refuse to understand the fact AAS are drugs that novice warriors are better off
avoiding completely.

 

[NFRCR]

Good luck with your recovery. I think I might need to try the same at one point - I am 27 and have been on for 2 years straight. I am also not concerned about having to be on gear for the rest of my life. It's the fertility - I don't want children yet (or maybe not ever), but the thought of not being able to have them anymore if I or my girlfriend should want them is scary. I will probably try to recover during the next year from now. If successful, I will get back on gear - at least it will give me this peace of mind that I recovered.

I hope your current PCT is enough, but if not don't give up immediately and try Triptorelin as well. Triptorelin PCTs rarely fail. However, it's an expensive drug and legit products are rare on the black market. I would try to get it directly from pharmacy if possible.

 

[nervje]

Good luck with your recovery. I think I might need to try the same at one point - I am 27 and have been on for 2 years straight. I am also not concerned about having to be on gear for the rest of my life. It's the fertility - I don't want children yet (or maybe not ever), but the thought of not being able to have them anymore if I or my girlfriend should want them is scary. I will probably try to recover during the next year from now. If successful, I will get back on gear - at least it will give me this peace of mind that I recovered.

I hope your current PCT is enough, but if not don't give up immediately and try Triptorelin as well. Triptorelin PCTs rarely fail. However, it's an expensive drug and legit products are rare on the black market. I would try to get it directly from pharmacy if possible.

im actually hoping for a quick recovery (<6 months) and then freezing sperm as my 'last resort' so I can at least get kids artifically. But if it takes a year..2 years..whatever to recover i will go for it and try to get healthy again.
We still can bridge with peptides, hgh and slin for trainings purpose but in my exprience, pinning a few times a day of all 3 is not even comparable to 1 shot of test a week.
In fact, as soon as i stopped slin an peptides and only continued hgh, i immediately lost strength and bodyweight.
Not sure if its coincidal, since i waited only 14 days after last test shot to start the serms (basically around 45 days after last test e, 14 days after test prop should be enough from what i researched) and maybe the gear finally flushed out at that time. On the other hand bloodtest showed my levels were almost zero way before the crazy strength loss.
I benched 140 for 5 around 4 weeks ago, yesterday struggled 120kg for 4.

 

[TRT]

I've been on TRT since I was 23. Doc says I have a better chance of winning the lotto then getting my gf prego IF I played everyday. It's something like 1:150,00. 150,00 being the equivalency of 2 normal adults having sex just once.
Thought the gf was pregnant the other day. She was 5 days late with no signs of cramping or anything. [emoji20] Guess I was wrong...got her peroid this morning.

Anyways, doctor says if I want kids there's nothing a little HCG and clomid cant fix. Since everyone is concerned about fertility MY endocrinologist says my testicals won't function at all without fertility drugs (which is worse case scenario) but I'll still be put on a level playing field with anyone else if I take the drugs with or without my Testosterone prescription.

 

[nervje]

I've been on TRT since I was 23. Doc says I have a better chance of winning the lotto then getting my gf prego IF I played everyday. It's something like 1:150,00. 150,00 being the equivalency of 2 normal adults having sex just once.
Thought the gf was pregnant the other day. She was 5 days late with no signs of cramping or anything. [emoji20] Guess I was wrong...got her peroid this morning.

Anyways, doctor says if I want kids there's nothing a little HCG and clomid cant fix. Since everyone is concerned about fertility MY endocrinologist says my testicals won't function at all without fertility drugs (which is worse case scenario) but I'll still be put on a level playing field with anyone else if I take the drugs with or without my Testosterone prescription.

are u on trt because youve had problems naturally of because u fucked around with aas?

 

[TRT]

are u on trt because youve had problems naturally of because u fucked around with aas?

I never took an AAS drug till I got on TRT. It was health problems. Happened naturally. I have a lesser chance of conceiving a child then you trying to nueter yourself with AAS.

 

[Mr.B66]

This was a good read. I wish you luck on your recovery and ill be following along.

 

[nervje]

Alright so

ED is fixed, dick is working perfectly fine again, morning boners, wanking, fucking the gf.

Got LH and FSH tested, they were :

LH: 2,8(Range: 0,5-12,1)
FSH: 2,5 (Range: 1-12)

This test was 2 months. 2 weeks after stopping the testosterone.
Also this test was 2 months after first bloodtest post cycle. where both values were totally 0.

Im happy as fuck, might not be too high but it is at least something!

 

[Erin]

Alright so

ED is fixed, dick is working perfectly fine again, morning boners, wanking, fucking the gf.

Got LH and FSH tested, they were :

LH: 2,8(Range: 0,5-12,1)
FSH: 2,5 (Range: 1-12)

This test was 2 months. 2 weeks after stopping the testosterone.
Also this test was 2 months after first bloodtest post cycle. where both values were totally 0.

Im happy as fuck, might not be too high but it is at least something!

If you meant this test was 2 months ago, with blood drawn 2 weeks after stopping exogenous testP (on a "cycle" that included Deca and tren), I'd say that's pretty good.
Try to keep testing every month.

 

[nervje]

yes the test where lh and fsh were both 0, that test was on 9th or 10th of april, right after I finished the hcg and when i had to start the serms.