3.5 years Steroids recovery log

[nervje]

Here I can walk into Walmart for $24 and get a 10ml vial.

4on 4 off is fine if your running it at a heavy dose. It gives your pancreas a break but in turn is subjecting your body to a huge amount of insulin making it less sensitive. That's why it's cycled. Now the insulin lasts only so long so your pancreas picks up and starts working again after its gone so you don't have to worry about the pancreas being stagnant and causing a problem in that sense.

I've used insulin so many times. Did short cycles of two weeks heavy and light and also done 10 weeks heavy and light. You just have to make sure your still insulin sensitive during that long period. After ever week I'll check my morning bs sugar and if it gets to high then I know I'm lacking sensitivity and that's when I see the most progress with less insulin.

Well im a first time insulin user.
Today I did my peptides, 20 mins later 3 iu hgh.
Waited 60 mins and did 12ius of novorapid.
20 minutes later blood sugar was at 90.
Shot another 10ius, 15 minutes later blood sugar was at 75mg/dl.
In my opinion thats a high as fuck blood sugar at 22ius of insulin.
Idk whats causing this insulin sensitivity. The hgh? My body itself? I also dont know if its a good idea to continue the insulin, because according to the bloodsugar levels i need like 50ius slin throughout the day and that is a LOT.
You need prescription for insulin here so you have to get it online

 

[TRT]

Well im a first time insulin user.
Today I did my peptides, 20 mins later 3 iu hgh.
Waited 60 mins and did 12ius of novorapid.
20 minutes later blood sugar was at 90.
Shot another 10ius, 15 minutes later blood sugar was at 75mg/dl.
In my opinion thats a high as fuck blood sugar at 22ius of insulin.
Idk whats causing this insulin sensitivity. The hgh? My body itself? I also dont know if its a good idea to continue the insulin, because according to the bloodsugar levels i need like 50ius slin throughout the day and that is a LOT.
You need prescription for insulin here so you have to get it online

HGH makes your body not insulin sensitive so you can use more insulin insulin. I've done 20 ius in a sitting of Humalin R and that's extreme. 5-8ius should have been plenty to effect BS on an empty stomach. You were on an empty stomach right?

 

[nervje]

Ugh, insulin insensitivity i mean, sorry

Yes ive been on an empty stomach before all the injections, until the bs was at 75 i had breakfast then

 

[TRT]

Wow. That A LOT of insulin on an empty stomach. Especially Humalog. Or Novarapid, same thing. There's no way your that insensitive already. Somethings up. Where'd you get the insulin? PM me when you get a chance.

 

[nervje]

Its from beststeroids .at

Idk about it, yesterday it was down at 65mg/dl when i used it preworkout, today it went down almost 20mg/dl in a matter of 30 mins when i shot the other 10 ius in the morning..its weird and i dont know whats causing it

 

[TRT]

Still doesn't sound right. Well, I guess you'll just have to pound that pen to make it work.

 

[nervje]

Yep
I finally finished moving flats, preloaded my syringes of hgh and peptides for today and tomorrow and they just fucking froze for a few minutes. U think they are destroyed now, like frozen for max an hour or so..
@mands
@JayWaWa
Help please youre more knowledgable in peptides/hgh than me..

 

[TRT]

Yep
I finally finished moving flats, preloaded my syringes of hgh and peptides for today and tomorrow and they just fucking froze for a few minutes. U think they are destroyed now, like frozen for max an hour or so..
@mands
@JayWaWa
Help please youre more knowledgable in peptides/hgh than me..

Oh ya? What about me ya stinky bastard?! I get it... Okay...

Totally just kidding. Ha don't know shit about them freezing but I've done that before.

 

[mands]

Yep
I finally finished moving flats, preloaded my syringes of hgh and peptides for today and tomorrow and they just fucking froze for a few minutes. U think they are destroyed now, like frozen for max an hour or so..
@mands

Dude you have more problems with temp and your gear than anyone I know.

It's hard to say if any damage was done. There is no way to tell if they still are bioavailable.

All pharmacies will tell you to discard and NOT USE if they become frozen.

Sorry.

mands

 

[TRT]

@mands doesn't know what he's talking about. Pound that shit! Lol
Don't listen to me. I'm giving horrible advice right now.

No but really. All joking aside I would take it. Worse case scenario it's no good or has very little active ingredients left. I would take it along side of new stuff or just run that. That's entirely up to you. Those are your choices.

 

[mands]

@mands doesn't know what he's talking about. Pound that shit! Lol
Don't listen to me. I'm giving horrible advice right now.

No but really. All joking aside I would take it. Worse case scenario it's no good or has very little active ingredients left. I would take it along side of new stuff or just run that. That's entirely up to you. Those are your choices.

Haha @TRT is correct there would be no harm from injecting.

mands

 

[nervje]

Well thawed up 300mcg ghrp2/cjc no dac followed by 8iu hgh and 15iu humalog it is then for preworkout lol
I know ive had a lot of temp issues but wont since i moved flats and got a new fridge finally

 

[mands]

Well thawed up 300mcg ghrp2/cjc no dac followed by 8iu hgh and 15iu humalog it is then for preworkout lol
I know ive had a lot of temp issues but wont since i moved flats and got a new fridge finally

Glad you got it settled finally.

mands

 

[TRT]

I forgot you were taking that much growth. Thats a decent amount right there. I'm very interested to see how this comes out.
See if you can do before and after pics.

 

[nervje]

Well actually im only on 5ius a day but since that stuff froze i decided todo it anyways so its gonna be 10ius for today lol

So im off the testosterone prop since exactly a week so im curious when the pumps in the gym will go away and stuff.
All i can say is i feel like a wreck, my shoulders hurt all day like im trainintbthem everyday and dont let them rest. Im way too overtrained so i will go easier on the training for a while

 

[Apexvallen]

Thanks for this thread. I'm interested to see where you end up.

 

[nervje]

Thanks for this thread. I'm interested to see where you end up.

Glad to hear this, ive been searching countless hours on logs like these, and since i couldnt find any detailed ones i figured i do them myself.
Im off for a hard week full of work tomorrow so i hope im able to post updates until sunday.
Serms starting on sunday, bloods will come monday or tuesday

 

[Juced]

Oh, and for the shittalkers,
my trainingspartner who did the exact same cycle as me, went off cold turkey in november, no pct no nothing, as advised by his endo, and got positive bloodwork back today.
Ranges are in the lower end, but went back up from being 0, so no neighbours gonna bang my future wife, im looking at you justfish lol

just because he didt is and/or just because a doc recommended it doesnt make it right.. PCT is to HELP AID RECOVERY... if you are gonna recover you are going to recover.. but its stupid not to use a SERM or two for a few weeks to help that out IMO...

good luck

 

[Juced]

Well i will go with the protocol i have posted. Of course its dependant from person to person, but my trainingspartner, like i said, came off cold turkey, got positive blood labs back after 4 months being off, and just a few hours ago told me his sperm count was in normal range again. I sont think im gonna need that heavy of an approach to bounce back. Well see anyways, it would be the last resort to bump hcg/hmg up a notch but seems like its not necessary for a successful recovery.

it costs almost nothing to do a basic good pct. run clomid 25-50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed for 5 weeks.
like i said you will lose less, speed up recovery and avoid unneded stress for like under 100$ or so....
just because you will/may recover without a pct doesnt make it a smart option... specially after being on for soo long.. consider it

 

[nervje]

it costs almost nothing to do a basic good pct. run clomid 25-50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed for 5 weeks.
like i said you will lose less, speed up recovery and avoid unneded stress for like under 100$ or so....
just because you will/may recover without a pct doesnt make it a smart option... specially after being on for soo long.. consider it

I think you misread something, i DO a full pct.
I am starting my serms, both clomid and nolva on Monday.
I have two more injections of hcg to go, then I will start the serms.

I am doing the power pct.

The thing about coming off cold, was just me saying that its worthless going to an endo here as they cost a shitton of money and want you to just stop the AAS without further medication. In my trainingspartners case, he still recovered but Im not taking risks. He might have been lucky, but it also makes me very confident i will recover as good or even better with proper (self prescribed) pct.
My trainingspartner paid more for an endo; who let him go off cold turkey than i did to get all the legit pct products.