3.5 years Steroids recovery log

I'm young too 25 and on trt due to not fully recovering from a long cycle, so now I'm just blasting and cruising. Im getting married and want to have kids in a year or 2 so I'll be following to see how you recover.
I guess itll be fine it at least 3-4 months from now on. But it depends on the individuals, maybe im totally fucked already lol
Nah itll be good
 
He said i need healthy fats, coming from fish for example because either ldl or hdl was a lil low. I dont remember which one tho.
And it doesnt matter, it was just an example to show i do my homework (bloodwork).
And now back ontopic its not about fucking fishfats lol

Suit yourself. I'm just noting that it's inconsistent to say that you've been doing your homework if you don't know the difference between HDL and LDL. (For what it's worth, it would have been your HDL that was low, which is a risk factor for CVD).
 
Suit yourself. I'm just noting that it's inconsistent to say that you've been doing your homework if you don't know the difference between HDL and LDL. (For what it's worth, it would have been your HDL that was low, which is a risk factor for CVD).

Notice how he corrects himself every time he gets called on his bs? Its typical for his age, which why everyone tells all the kids not to take aas.
 
Negative man. But clearly at 23 you've made some stellar life choices. You really need to stop self medicating and seek professional help. I sincerely hope you get your shit together and dont face a lifetime of fuck ups, but based on every know it all comment you've made, while seeking self affirmation on a steroid forum, you're on the road to a shit samich.
 
Negative man. But clearly at 23 you've made some stellar life choices. You really need to stop self medicating and seek professional help. I sincerely hope you get your shit together and dont face a lifetime of fuck ups, but based on every know it all comment you've made, while seeking self affirmation on a steroid forum, you're on the road to a shit samich.

And if you wouldve read previous posts you would know the endos here are shit and dont prescribe pcts, they will let you go off cold turkey. And i think thats worse than trying the power pct.

Me being only 23 and already on aas for so long is another thing, of you wouldve read the whole introduction post you would know that i in no way advice anyone to do this and that i write this log also for unaware people to see which consequences they face if they do it this way, as i was researching alot about long cycles and never really could find a detailed log or similar from the abuser point of view.
 
First, you need to remove the variables. A bit of lemon squeezy, salt and lemongrass. Best enjoyed with fava beans and a nice chianti

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I like it best in my third week of cycling acetate-driven compounds because that's when I get the texture which work best for my palate. When I click with my tongue and get that grainy, sweet cornie kind of feeling in my mouth, I know I have cultivated the perfect batch ....

... for your mother :eek:

 
Dude, they dont want to prescribe you anything because you are a sketcher and won't follow their directions. You're the bright one aren't ya?
 
Alright, 2 more hcg injections to go. Today and wednesday.

I did my first insulin injection today, first time in the morning, i made the fake insulin pen thread because of that in the hgh and peptide section.

Bloodglucose before slin: 96mg/dl
5 mins after 6ius: 86mg/dl
Another 5 mins later: 92mg/dl
Decided to shoot another 6ius
5 mins later: 93mg/dl

I then downed my carb/wheyshake consisting of:
750ml low fat milk
2 scoops whey protein
Dextrose, around 30g carbs
So all together i had 60 protein, around 60 carbs

1.5 hrs later
125g uncooked white rice
2 chicken breasts

I was fuckin pissed because it seems the pen is counterfeit.
Took another try 1hour before my workout so I shot 10iu slin.
Waited 20 minutes and bloodglucose was 65mg/dl so it seems to be good to go.
Had my shake immediately after checking blood lvl, then workout with shake consisting of half a scoop whey, 10g dextrose and 500ml milk.

No signs of going hypo, altough after my peptide/hgh shots in the morning i felt tired as fuck and it didnt stop really all day.
Seems like my body can handle slin pretty well, 22 ius of novorapid on first day is alot lol
 
Alright, 2 more hcg injections to go. Today and wednesday.

I did my first insulin injection today, first time in the morning, i made the fake insulin pen thread because of that in the hgh and peptide section.

Bloodglucose before slin: 96mg/dl
5 mins after 6ius: 86mg/dl
Another 5 mins later: 92mg/dl
Decided to shoot another 6ius
5 mins later: 93mg/dl

I then downed my carb/wheyshake consisting of:
750ml low fat milk
2 scoops whey protein
Dextrose, around 30g carbs
So all together i had 60 protein, around 60 carbs

1.5 hrs later
125g uncooked white rice
2 chicken breasts

I was fuckin pissed because it seems the pen is counterfeit.
Took another try 1hour before my workout so I shot 10iu slin.
Waited 20 minutes and bloodglucose was 65mg/dl so it seems to be good to go.
Had my shake immediately after checking blood lvl, then workout with shake consisting of half a scoop whey, 10g dextrose and 500ml milk.

No signs of going hypo, altough after my peptide/hgh shots in the morning i felt tired as fuck and it didnt stop really all day.
Seems like my body can handle slin pretty well, 22 ius of novorapid on first day is alot lol

Is HGH and insulin going to assist your 3.5y AAS recovery?
 
Is HGH and insulin going to assist your 3.5y AAS recovery?

Its not assisting recovery directly, but helping me keep the muscle tissue.
Altough if you look around, people have reported to bounce back quicker when they used HGH than when they didnt use but theres no real scientific backup as far as i know
 
I thought Humalin R was the insulin to use on GH do to the peaks. GH and Humalin R peak at the same time if administered together. Or is there another reason for the Humalog? Just curious so I can change something up.
 
I thought Humalin R was the insulin to use on GH do to the peaks. GH and Humalin R peak at the same time if administered together. Or is there another reason for the Humalog? Just curious so I can change something up.

Yea youre right, but i only could get either humalog or lantus. I have to pin the humalog around 1 hour after the gh to hit the same peak.
But i also like the idea to control the peak more and know when its going to wear off so
 
Its not assisting recovery directly, but helping me keep the muscle tissue.
Altough if you look around, people have reported to bounce back quicker when they used HGH than when they didnt use but theres no real scientific backup as far as i know

Yeah, I'm just curious as HGH + insulin probably offers less benefit:harm than AAS.
 
Yeah, I'm just curious as HGH + insulin probably offers less benefit:harm than AAS.

Definately as I guess it wont do much in terms of getting new muscle tissue without AAS but i do hope it preserves the muscle size and strength i built with the aas.
And no, I wont run this forever, I will run the hgh for at least a 6 month cycle and cycle the insulin 4 weeks on/4 weeks off.

If there was scientific reports that it wont do shit offcycle i wouldnt run it. But ive read so many (unscientific) reports about these 2 compounds being very good for pct as training etc stays the same.
I dont miss the aas shots (yet) but I miss not having to think about all the peptide/hgh/slin/food timing, its a pain in the ass.
"Hey baby lets go to sleep!"
"Nah, gotta do the peptides, then wait for the hgh and prep the protein meal ill have in exactly 40 mins babe" LOL
 
Definately as I guess it wont do much in terms of getting new muscle tissue without AAS but i do hope it preserves the muscle size and strength i built with the aas.
And no, I wont run this forever, I will run the hgh for at least a 6 month cycle and cycle the insulin 4 weeks on/4 weeks off.

If there was scientific reports that it wont do shit offcycle i wouldnt run it. But ive read so many (unscientific) reports about these 2 compounds being very good for pct as training etc stays the same.
I dont miss the aas shots (yet) but I miss not having to think about all the peptide/hgh/slin/food timing, its a pain in the ass.
"Hey baby lets go to sleep!"
"Nah, gotta do the peptides, then wait for the hgh and prep the protein meal ill have in exactly 40 mins babe" LOL

Well, there are entire articles on exogenous GH suppressing endogenous secretion:
Hashimoto Y, Kamioka T, Hosaka M, Mabuchi K, Mizuchi A, Shimazaki Y, et al.
Exogenous 20K GH (growth hormone) suppresses endogenous 22K GH secretion in normal men.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2000;85:601-6. [PMID: 10690862]

Regarding insulin, "As short-term overdosing of insulin causes short-term insulin resistance, it has been hypothesized that chronic high dosing contributes to more permanent insulin resistance."

Just sounds like you're trading one addiction for two more.
 
Well, there are entire articles on exogenous GH suppressing endogenous secretion:
Hashimoto Y, Kamioka T, Hosaka M, Mabuchi K, Mizuchi A, Shimazaki Y, et al.
Exogenous 20K GH (growth hormone) suppresses endogenous 22K GH secretion in normal men.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2000;85:601-6. [PMID: 10690862]

Regarding insulin, "As short-term overdosing of insulin causes short-term insulin resistance, it has been hypothesized that chronic high dosing contributes to more permanent insulin resistance."

Just sounds like you're trading one addiction for two more.

Well its also reported that endogenous hgh secretion comes back after discontinuing the hgh injections, just like thyroid comes back after t3.
Insulin also should not be too much of an issue if doing it 4on/4off.

About the addiction thing:
Definately, i dont want to sugar coat thing, if there wasnt some kind of addiction involved one would NOT use other supplements when going of aas.
But it is what it is and i will continue as i am doing and report
 
Yea youre right, but i only could get either humalog or lantus. I have to pin the humalog around 1 hour after the gh to hit the same peak.
But i also like the idea to control the peak more and know when its going to wear off so
Here I can walk into Walmart for $24 and get a 10ml vial.
Well its also reported that endogenous hgh secretion comes back after discontinuing the hgh injections, just like thyroid comes back after t3.
Insulin also should not be too much of an issue if doing it 4on/4off.

About the addiction thing:
Definately, i dont want to sugar coat thing, if there wasnt some kind of addiction involved one would NOT use other supplements when going of aas.
But it is what it is and i will continue as i am doing and report
4on 4 off is fine if your running it at a heavy dose. It gives your pancreas a break but in turn is subjecting your body to a huge amount of insulin making it less sensitive. That's why it's cycled. Now the insulin lasts only so long so your pancreas picks up and starts working again after its gone so you don't have to worry about the pancreas being stagnant and causing a problem in that sense.

I've used insulin so many times. Did short cycles of two weeks heavy and light and also done 10 weeks heavy and light. You just have to make sure your still insulin sensitive during that long period. After ever week I'll check my morning bs sugar and if it gets to high then I know I'm lacking sensitivity and that's when I see the most progress with less insulin.
 
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