3rd cycle advice please boys

[samsaunders97]

Week 1-4: Dianabol @ 30mg
Week1-14: sustanon 250 @ 500ml OR 750ml

Supps:
N2 guard @ 7 caps day
Cod liver oil tabs & And some vitamins just to add some extra goodness.

A.I: Aromasin @ 10mg EOD ( will do bloods after dbol and adjust dose from there. Check bloods again at 10 weeks, then again at week 14.

PCT 21 days after last pin: nolvadex and clomid NOT SURE ON DOSAGE!!!?
Or whether to have HCG DURING PCT, NOT CYCLE.!!!?

Ithis will be my third cycle ( last two where very inexperienced experiences ) I treated my juice as a biscuit base and not a cherry on top .
I'm pretty happy with cycle it's self but would like some opinions on PCT DOSAGES, HCG. And how the whole thing looks?

 

[Leancuisine]

HCG during cycle. If you want to take it. I'm not a fan of it. Do 250iu twice a week from day one to the last day you pin your sust.
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

N2Guard is a scam. Wouldn't buy it again.

 

[samsaunders97]

I'd rather leave it alone to be honest, I want to be able to run a simple enough cycle and this is the first time using an A.I AND doing bloods, so adding hcg will just overload my brain. What's your reasons for the dislike of it buddy?

Everywhere and everything I read I always see a big fan base for n2guard like people worship it! I'm yet to find out

Pct looks good bro

 

[Leancuisine]

You were unsure about HCG usage so I answered your question. I can see it's use for someone on TRT that doesn't really care about their LH production, but HCG increases intratesticular estrogen levels which can not be lowered with an AI.

Did you read about the N2Guard on evolutionary by chance? It's kind of like a cult over there. They each regurgitate whatever Dylan tells them. Just look at what Dylan is currently cycling.
Over 10 compounds just to gain 10lbs. He's 6 feet tall and 180lbs, if that. Says he's 5% bodyfat but looks more like 9. Just an idiot.

 

[samsaunders97]

I was just wondering why your not a fan of it buddy. Think I'm gonna leave it alone, if I'm right in thinking that using hcg will just suppress what's already suppressed then I'll just run my pct n see how I am

 

[samsaunders97]

I've flicked through it but most of it I see coming from conversations from people

 

[Test_Subject]

Over 10 compounds just to gain 10lbs. He's 6 feet tall and 180lbs, if that. Says he's 5% bodyfat but looks more like 9. Just an idiot.

If he's 180 lbs I'm 300. He's a buck sixty at most. You're right, though: N2Guard is snake oil.

OP, your cycle looks good, but I'd switch from sustanon to either test E or test C unless you're willing to pin every other day. Sustanon is sort of the worst of both worlds.

You want to start HCG a few weeks in (or right away if you want) and run it until your last pin. Running it during PCT is counter-productive. With a test and dbol cycle you won't "need" it, but it's always a smart idea.

 

[samsaunders97]

There's soooo much debate about frequency of pinning with sust? personally I have to say it works well once a week! My last two cycles where sust. Users seem to like to make the most of the short esters in sust and forget about the long acting, that's how I beleive it to be anyhow. I don't particularly want to run hcg as I said before.
Hopefully the clomid and nolvadex will be enough, what are your thoughts

 

[samsaunders97]

Also, this is my first time using an A.I... I've been recommended to use it from the first day I pin and so forth EOD!? Tho I'd rather not take it unless my body is telling me I need it ya know

 

[Test_Subject]

Users seem to like to make the most of the short esters in sust and forget about the long acting, that's how I beleive it to be anyhow.

If you pin once a week, you're better off with pure long esters. That's a simple fact. Even at twice a week, enanthate or cypionate are preferable.

It's simple chemistry. If you pin short esters beyond their halflives, your blood concentration isn't going to build up to the same level.

It's the same thing as pinning test E every two weeks, essentially.

 

[samsaunders97]

What way to turn lol [emoji21] I do understand that point. I have the sust and the mission is in plan so I'll go ahead with sus.
What are your thoughts on the A.I?

 

[Test_Subject]

What way to turn lol [emoji21] I do understand that point. I have the sust and the mission is in plan so I'll go ahead with sus.
What are your thoughts on the A.I?

Sust isn't "bad" once a week. It's just not ideal. If you already have it you might as well use it.

I don't start taking an AI until 3-4 weeks into my cycle because I don't need to, but everyone is different. Seeing as you've never used an AI, you should probably start it right away I'd drop your intended dose a bit because your estrogen won't have built up as much in the first few weeks.

The best way to figure out how you react is to get bloodwork done before your cycle, then four or so weeks in to see where your E2 is and lower or raise your dose from there.

 

[ELCID]

Sust 1 x gives you 160 mg of test per 250.. Id run more up front -like 200 eod (basically you will be running a bit over 170 (180 maybe) mg EOD as only 30 mgs out of 250 are Prop The phenylprop (60 mg) will be there if you go EOD....My thoughts. Otherwise, if you go once a week, you will be getting160 mgs for ever 250mgs pinned...your call

Your PCT needs to be worked on a bunch my man.

 

[Wunderpus]

This is always the same shit... ask for advice and argue with the good advice you receive. Turns out you're already set on a dumb cycle cause you bought your sustanon. I like what @Test_Subject said, "worst of both worlds..." so true. Cyp. or enan. are really the best options here... But you can be a pigheaded cunt and go on your hormonal rollercoaster that is sustanon, just don't ask for advice.

 

[Leancuisine]

This is always the same shit... ask for advice and argue with the good advice you receive. Turns out you're already set on a dumb cycle cause you bought your sustanon. I like what @Test_Subject said, "worst of both worlds..." so true. Cyp. or enan. are really the best options here... But you can be a pigheaded cunt and go on your hormonal rollercoaster that is sustanon, just don't ask for advice.

Jeez pus you sure that Primo isn't tren??

I hear ya though. Sounds like the guy already bought everything, then asked the questions. Ah well. He should just be thankful good ol Scurvy Scally didn't make him walk the plank.

 

[Wunderpus]

Jeez pus you sure that Primo isn't tren??

I hear ya though. Sounds like the guy already bought everything, then asked the questions. Ah well. He should just be thankful good ol Scurvy Scally didn't make him walk the plank.

Ahhh I'm clear headed brother! Primo doesn't prevent me from seeing "stupid cunt" on forums....

 

[Leancuisine]

Ahhh I'm clear headed brother! Primo doesn't prevent me from seeing "stupid cunt" on forums....

I'm still juggling primo in the air. I'm going to be trying DHB soon. Supposed to be a super primo or somewhat.

 

[Wunderpus]

I'm still juggling primo in the air. I'm going to be trying DHB soon. Supposed to be a super primo or somewhat.

No idea what that is....? Primo is good shit, expensive though..... I'd like to see primo, test, EQ and anavar as a cycle....

 

[Leancuisine]

No idea what that is....? Primo is good shit, expensive though..... I'd like to see primo, test, EQ and anavar as a cycle....

1-test cypionate. Supposed to be a derivative of EQ. People say it gives them tren like strength. We shall see! End of this month it is on like Genghis Khan wearing Sean John in Bhutan!

 

[Wunderpus]

1-test cypionate. Supposed to be a derivative of EQ. People say it gives them tren like strength. We shall see! End of this month it is on like Genghis Khan wearing Sean John in Bhutan!

How dare you talk about Ghengis Khan in a positive light?! He was a mass genocider!

Funny how hitler is taboo to talk about, but khan is fine....? Time heals all, I guess.