3rd cycle advice please boys

How dare you talk about Ghengis Khan in a positive light?! He was a mass genocider!

Funny how hitler is taboo to talk about, but khan is fine....? Time heals all, I guess.

It was all in the name of bettering his empire.
He was pretty nice to the people he didn't kill.
And he also is credited with creating one of the first postal services.
There is that little hiccup where he killed some 40 million people, but hey. We all have rough days.
 
It was all in the name of bettering his empire.
He was pretty nice to the people he didn't kill.
And he also is credited with creating one of the first postal services.
There is that little hiccup where he killed some 40 million people, but hey. We all have rough days.
Few artists are appreciated in their time, ya know!?
 
You mouthy cunt [emoji23] I must not of realised you where born a god with ALLLLLL the knowledge and alll the brain gains [emoji23] sounds like you need to stop juicing all together my friend, go drink a beer and beat your wife then to relax and unwind from that, log back in and give another bloke shit just looking for ADVICE on a fucking BEGGINERS ADVICE FORUM you silly cunt. I also don't remember asking YOUR advice, sorry, do I join YOUR EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER? Or wait for mine [emoji23][emoji1596]@Wunderpus..... wondering-why-he-has-a- pussy
Anyway @test subject cheers for your input buddy I'm going to switch up the pinning.
 
Sust isn't "bad" once a week. It's just not ideal. If you already have it you might as well use it.

I don't start taking an AI until 3-4 weeks into my cycle because I don't need to, but everyone is different. Seeing as you've never used an AI, you should probably start it right away I'd drop your intended dose a bit because your estrogen won't have built up as much in the first few weeks.

The best way to figure out how you react is to get bloodwork done before your cycle, then four or so weeks in to see where your E2 is and lower or raise your dose from there.

Quick query. Was sustanon not designed for monthly injections?
This is the whole reason I was confused
 
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theemperor said:
17-Jun-2011 07:19 PM
Lightbulb Sustanon at once a week.......
How many of you are liking sustanon and my understanding is that its best to shoot in a high dose of 750mg - 1 gram once a week or every 10 days, I got this from an post made by ND2...,let me find it and I will post it on here.


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theemperor said:
17-Jun-2011 07:23 PM
Re: Sustanon at once a week.......
Here it is, a quote by ND2 on Sustanon and the best way to use it:

The name sustanon means "sustained release" This because its original "thought" for its use was designed to be administered once per month. By combining multiple esters in such a way, starting with shorter chain molecules (propionate) and progressing to longer ones (decanoate), you can design a formula that takes effect almost immediately and releases it’s payload (testosterone) over a length of time.

But lets look at sustanon from a Athletes perspective rather then a pharmacological one. Now stop and think ( experienced users). You are sitting down to plan out your next cycle.

Separate all of the different testosterone esters in sustanon and then sit down and take a good look at them. Take each one on its one and then write out how you would use that testosterone ester if you were going to use it in a cycle all on its own.

Here let me split them up for you one more time.
1. testosterone propionate
Ok this is the first test ester in sust. Now make a cycle with it and show me how you would cycle it if you were going to use just this steroid in a cycle!!!

Well if you had any experience at all with steroids you would run it one of a few ways.
A. 50-100mg every day
B. 100mg every other day.

This is pretty much the extent of how you would cycle Test-prop . No one with any experence at all would run this drug any less then 50mg every single day or 100mg every other day.. OK hey maybe you wanted to use the lowest dose you would get away with. Even the lowest does I have ever seen would be 50mg every other day. So 25mg every day or 50mg every day

Guess what? sust only has 30mg of testosterone prop in it. That just barely hits the "every single day dose" you would use if you were going to use this version of test of you were going to use it alone in a cycle.

prop has a 48 hour half life and we all know it ( us with experience... NEXT

2. testosterone phenylpropionate
Well ok now sust has 30mg of testosterone phenylpropionate and this has a 4 day half life. This of course is not a very popular version of test so you will not see many people setting up cycles using this..however if one were to use it it would still end up being a 100mg every other day inject just like one would do with NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - other drugs like it. Or maybe 2-300mg every 3 days. bit again you can see that the dosing is " not right"


3. testosterone isocaproate
This one has a 9 day half life and if you were to cycle it on its one you would more then likely inject twice a week at about 200mg or more. Again the dosing is wrong.


4. testosterone Decanoate
One of my new best friends. I have founds a new love for "long esters" of test and this is my second favorite right behind testosterone Undecanoate the longest ester of test there is. Just love this stuff but test deca is not far behind at all.

But again looking at drugs like test-deca or deca-dernabolan
You will notice people still inject this on a twice a week bases using way more then 100mg ( more like 250-300mg twice a week) or they inject it as little as once a week but even then they inject 300mg or more not 100mg or less.



So then how should one use sust? Well yes you can have a good cycle using twice a week injects of sust. You can have a good cycle running every other day injects of sust-250 too as many have seen for them self first hand.

But guys lets use our heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Over all of steroid history what have we always done? We have always taken a steroid and used double, triple, more, more, more, then what was intended to be used right? We take it how it was intended to be taken only we take a whole hell of a lot more then was intended.


So why have we lost our way when it comes to sustanon? When you use sust in any other way then its intended use you get unstable levels. This has been known to cause sust flue, crap loads of nasty acne,mood swings, and all kinds of other problems.

Now I challenge you experienced users out there to test my theory. Insted of injecting sust twice a week, 3 times a week or even every other day... Go back to the basics and use it exactly how it was intended to be used.
 
You mouthy cunt [emoji23] I must not of realised you where born a god with ALLLLLL the knowledge and alll the brain gains [emoji23] sounds like you need to stop juicing all together my friend, go drink a beer and beat your wife then to relax and unwind from that, log back in and give another bloke shit just looking for ADVICE on a fucking BEGGINERS ADVICE FORUM you silly cunt. I also don't remember asking YOUR advice, sorry, do I join YOUR EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER? Or wait for mine [emoji23][emoji1596]@Wunderpus..... wondering-why-he-has-a- pussy
Anyway @test subject cheers for your input buddy I'm going to switch up the pinning.
I'm not married, but I appreciate you learning from what your father must've done in front of you... To bad he didn't punch just a bit harder and abort your sorry ass before you were born... Now we find you, here, asking for help... But, not really wanting it since you copy and paste all of your opinions, we get it, you're a regurgitation (at best).

You could learn a thing, or two, from people like myself who have tried these things and are willing to help.... Sustanon is a roller coaster, I don't care what insignificant report you so awkwardly copy and paste, it just IS. Now, another problem i have with a lot of UGL sustanon is I suspect it's largely test prop mixed with cyp. or enanthate, not all of the esters. Also, it's purpose was to treat low T with minimal amount of office visits for administration, not for maximal muscle gain... There is a difference between minimum effectiveness (what doctors aim for) and maximum effectiveness (what we look for). Few patients will OK the usage of test. prop., although from a blood level standpoint it's about as ideal as it gets... No patient will administer their test EOD, but they will CONSIDER sustanon due to the minimal number of injections. Their hormone levels WILL fluctuate considerably when compared to propionate, this is INARGUABLE. Fluctuation is NOT a good thing.

Go ahead, run your sustanon, I don't care, and it's clear you don't really care either. When you're ready to learn and get shit right, we'll see you around. I predict either a "I can't get my dick up" or a "gyno- please help" thread in your very near future.
 
lol wonderful. Didn't specifically ask for your advice, you've said your bit now fuck off and play mr info 101 to some other poor cunt
 
lol wonderful. Didn't specifically ask for your advice, you've said your bit now fuck off and play mr info 101 to some other poor cunt


You are a useless shit.

You asked for advice and then disregarded it.

Try out EVO. They like your brand of assbutter there.
 
Only his advice cos it's not advice it's " my ways the only way any other way your a cunt "
How about go back a few comments before you throw your bit in. ADVICE IS WELCOME just not from this fuck.
 
lol wonderful. Didn't specifically ask for your advice, you've said your bit now fuck off and play mr info 101 to some other poor cunt
This above post was copied from Evolutionary... You want to run N2Guard, as well... I think you're perfect for Evo, you're not intelligent or capable of learning well enough to fit in here. You obviously suffer from a severe handicap, certainly mental, possibly physical too... For that, I am genuinely sorry. You can PM me -I used to donate time and work with special needs children- I'm here for you, I feel bad making fun of you.... After spending so much time around the mentally handicapped, it stands out like a sore thumb.
 
This above post was copied from Evolutionary... You want to run N2Guard, as well... I think you're perfect for Evo, you're not intelligent or capable of learning well enough to fit in here. You obviously suffer from a severe handicap, certainly mental, possibly physical too... For that, I am genuinely sorry. You can PM me -I used to donate time and work with special needs children- I'm here for you, I feel bad making fun of you.... After spending so much time around the mentally handicapped, it stands out like a sore thumb.

Hahaha if only you new. By by
 
This above post was copied from Evolutionary... You want to run N2Guard, as well... I think you're perfect for Evo, you're not intelligent or capable of learning well enough to fit in here. You obviously suffer from a severe handicap, certainly mental, possibly physical too... For that, I am genuinely sorry. You can PM me -I used to donate time and work with special needs children- I'm here for you, I feel bad making fun of you.... After spending so much time around the mentally handicapped, it stands out like a sore thumb.

I forgot you left the womb a genius [emoji19] my bad
 
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Would that actually make them even more impoverished?

I know that being here with you in this thread has been a net loss of useful heat for the Universe at large, I can only imagine that being in the same room with you is like sitting near a black hole.
 
Would that actually make them even more impoverished?

I know that being here with you in this thread has been a net loss of useful heat for the Universe at large, I can only imagine that being in the same room with you is like sitting near a black hole.

Hmmm and yer my only thought is.... " well why did you decide to join in " stupid fuck
 
I have better things to do with my time than continue this. Bi bi
Side note: at what angle do I pin my eye ? Never mind I'll go ask EVO
 
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