4 month long pct update

[lucabratzi]

ill post my original thread below to see where I started. This thread is for education for anyone that has done Long blast/cruise.

When I came off trt my sex drive sucked, testosterone sucked and low sperm.

I've been on 50mg alone for 4 months now and I'm going to drop down to 25mg cause I had amazing results and want to see where I fall if I come off clomid.

My latest test results

Fsh 6.7 (normal 1.6 - 8)
Lh 5.9 (normal 1.5 - 9.3)
Prolactin 6.5 (2 - 18)
Testosterone 1041 (250 - 1100
Free test 113.5 (35 - 155)

Also my sperm count went up to 49 million. When I tested last year it was only 5 million which is very low.

My testosterone was as low as 350 while on clomid so I think it's safe to say it's kicked in and working.

I was planning on going back on trt because my sex drive was minimal but since I'm feeling better I may stay off everything. I froze my sperm so if the time come to get back on I have that as a safety net.

I also miss having the juiced look but after a lot of life comin my way I was forced to come to grips w it and accept looking like a in shape natural guy w average genetics.

https://thinksteroids.1-528243226/community/threads/pct-after-long-blast-and-cruise.134385406/

 

[G2Ready]

Glad to see those #'s

And also glad to see an actual updated fertility/pct after long B&C

Most give up (I'm no better) soooo major props to u for sticking it out----

And 49 million is AMAZING improvement from 5 million---- How was ur motility and morphology?

 

[lucabratzi]

Glad to see those #'s

And also glad to see an actual updated fertility/pct after long B&C

Most give up (I'm no better) soooo major props to u for sticking it out----

And 49 million is AMAZING improvement from 5 million---- How was ur motility and morphology?

Thanks brother. First 2-3 months sucked. Legit no sex drive.

I'm itching to go back on now that I have 8 vials of swimmers frozen. But I've had a shoulder injury that is keeping me from lifting normally so there's no point to get back on if I can't lift. I'll give it another thought in maybe 2 months.

I forget the percentage he told me for motility but he said it's good enough to have good samples. And normal shape head and tails.

 

[master.on]

Did you get your Estradiol tested?
Clomid Nolva can increase both Test and E too much

 

[lucabratzi]

Did you get your Estradiol tested?
Clomid Nolva can increase both Test and E too much

I didn't. For some reason the doc didn't include that. I cut my clomid dose down so I'll see in a few weeks where my estro is.

 

[Dw725]

Thanks for sharing this @lucabratzi .

Just a heads up, link to your original thread isn't working. It's not impossible that it is only an issue on my end , but thought I'd let you know.

 

[master.on]

I didn't. For some reason the doc didn't include that. I cut my clomid dose down so I'll see in a few weeks where my estro is.

Definitely get it tested
Even if you have to pay extra for it out of pocket (not covered by insurance), it is worth it.
Personally I quickly got both my Test above normal range and Estradiol at the upper limit by 5 mg Nolva
but I didn't feel well until I got my Estro lowered

Even HALF a Letro tab a week can lower Estradiol without totally crashing it, rise Testosterone. Unlike Nolva, low-dose Letro is safe for long term use.
Letrozole once a week normalizes serum testosterone in obesity-related male hypogonadism. - PubMed - NCBI
(click on the 'full-text link' to read the whole study)

 

[Yeabuddyron]

What is the general consensus? Will his levels stay in good range 600-800 our after clomid wears off back down to 350?

 

[NFRCR]

Did you use HCG during the blast and cruise or only towards the end of it?

I have been blasting and cruising for 2.5 years myself. No HCG. Currently contemplating about getting off. Now thinking if no HCG during this time has been a huge mistake.

 

[master.on]

Did you use HCG during the blast and cruise or only towards the end of it?

I have been blasting and cruising for 2.5 years myself. No HCG. Currently contemplating about getting off. Now thinking if no HCG during this time has been a huge mistake.

IMO it was a mistake indeed
Just make sure you get Estradiol bloodtests while on HCG.
Personally I quickly got Test a bit over normal range with HCG, but Estradiol almost 2x normal.
HCG+ 1 tab a week Letro was the perfect balance for me.

 

[Flaming Dragon]

Awesome there brother @lucabratzi I am doing the same! Been out since Feb and will probably go for the full year..But sometime I miss that feeling.... you know, the same feeling Charlie had when he found that last golden ticket.. it's the same for me on Tren pin day!

 

[Sk8man101]

How's your weight doing?
Lose anything?

 

[Maktub]

For how long
Did you blast and cruise ?

 

[lucabratzi]

Awesome there brother @lucabratzi I am doing the same! Been out since Feb and will probably go for the full year..But sometime I miss that feeling.... you know, the same feeling Charlie had when he found that last golden ticket.. it's the same for me on Tren pin day!

Thanks bro. Trust me I know. Sex drive isn't the same. When I'm on I'm on. When I'm off I'm normal

How's your weight doing?
Lose anything?

Honestly I've been on a slow decline since mid 2016. Training and diet sucked and was running 150-200mg. Then I got my head back and was ok. Then I injured my shoulder and couldn't lift for a while so I came off. In that period I lost size. I think in total when I came off I was around 225lb 12-14%. Now I'm 210 12ish%.

For how long
Did you blast and cruise ?

About 3 years

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Mate. I blassted for four years. Test recovered but libido is completely dead has been for some time. I doubt it will ever come back haha

 

[Flaming Dragon]

Thanks bro. Trust me I know. Sex drive isn't the same. When I'm on I'm on. When I'm off I'm normal

Yeah, that's the weak part- but overtime, mine took about 4 months after pct, then it was on like donkey kong!

 

[lucabratzi]

Mate. I blassted for four years. Test recovered but libido is completely dead has been for some time. I doubt it will ever come back haha

You did pct? Mines there but I'm still in the mindset of "i want it to feel like I'm on cycle when I'm not". Idk if I'm being greedy cause I have an ok drive but not crazy

 

[BirdieNumNum]

You did pct? Mines there but I'm still in the mindset of "i want it to feel like I'm on cycle when I'm not". Idk if I'm being greedy cause I have an ok drive but not crazy

I did numerous PCTs. Listen to me be grateful you have a decent drive bro. Jumping back on will only make it worse once you cease aas again. But then again. It's your life and it's all about quality of life isn't it? Here today gone tomorrow

 

[lucabratzi]

I did numerous PCTs. Listen to me be grateful you have a decent drive bro. Jumping back on will only make it worse once you cease aas again. But then again. It's your life and it's all about quality of life isn't it? Here today gone tomorrow

I know, a part of me says be grateful you're somewhat good. Then the other part says go back to being a deviant

 

[Eman]

@lucabratzi how long after you ceased TRT did you have sperm count tested?

I'm curious what the timeline was between coming off and having a viable sperm sample that you could bank.