Catteni
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You think running PQO water based Test base would reflect elevated hsCRP? First time trying and had delated PIP at site. Read anecdotally water based with more complications compared to oil-based TNE.
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Photon
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Yea pip=hscrp increase.
Id used oil based instead.
Water based usually results in PIP.
Rawnjohnson
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You mentioned you filter your gear. Is any of it Chinese? If so EO may not agree with you.
Catteni
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Yeah learned that after just 2 doses but had to FAFO. Even though deep down knew should be oil based mig only.
No Chinese gear, Test C is from Opti and Bold C is from Defiant. TNE from Arail. I just filter everything to reduce the number of unknown variables.
Rawnjohnson
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Never tried Bold C, but hear it is notorious for PIP. Having any major PIP from it? That could raise hs-crp.
RockyP
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Seems like there’s a host of things here that could be the culprit. If you really want to find out what’s going on the most reasonable option is to go to TRT for a month, let all this other shit clear out, and get a baseline hsCRP. If it’s normal at that time you can start systematically adding things back. Any other approach is likely to result in you chasing your tail. Remember even hsCRP is nonspecific. If you drop the TNE and the number goes down that doesn’t necessarily mean it was the TNE. However, if you clear out everything, get a baseline, then add the TNE back in and then it’s elevated, tou can attribute it to the TNE. But even then you don’t know if it’s the api, or if it’s crashing post injection. As far as MiG 840, it’s designed specifically to be anti/non inflammatory. I think a lot of guys reporting issues with mig840 really have issues with what is dissolved (or not fully dissolved in the case of stuff like injectable Anadrol, TNE, etc
C) in it. I didn’t check my CRP at the time but I spent a few weeks fighting with crashed Anadrol only to realize that the reactions I was having was likely due to it crashing in the tissue post injection. That is, the vials I had that were crashed then heated were not heated long / high enough. The vials I have that were not crashed had no issues. I’ve since come up with a heating protocol for the crashed vials, which is at a higher temp and for a longer time than I thought was necessary, and now I have no issues. But I can only imagine my CRP was likely very elevated during the times of pip, redness, swelling etc.
C) in it. I didn’t check my CRP at the time but I spent a few weeks fighting with crashed Anadrol only to realize that the reactions I was having was likely due to it crashing in the tissue post injection. That is, the vials I had that were crashed then heated were not heated long / high enough. The vials I have that were not crashed had no issues. I’ve since come up with a heating protocol for the crashed vials, which is at a higher temp and for a longer time than I thought was necessary, and now I have no issues. But I can only imagine my CRP was likely very elevated during the times of pip, redness, swelling etc.
RockyP
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Seems like there’s a host of things here that could be the culprit. If you really want to find out what’s going on the most reasonable option is to go to TRT for a month, let all this other shit clear out, and get a baseline hsCRP. If it’s normal at that time you can start systematically adding things back. Any other approach is likely to result in you chasing your tail. Remember even hsCRP is nonspecific. If you drop the TNE and the number goes down that doesn’t necessarily mean it was the TNE. However, if you clear out everything, get a baseline, then add the TNE back in and then it’s elevated, tou can attribute it to the TNE. But even then you don’t know if it’s the api, or if it’s crashing post injection. As far as MiG 840, it’s designed specifically to be anti/non inflammatory. I think a lot of guys reporting issues with mig840 really have issues with what is dissolved (or not fully dissolved in the case of stuff like injectable Anadrol, TNE, etc
C) in it. I didn’t check my CRP at the time but I spent a few weeks fighting with crashed Anadrol only to realize that the reactions I was having was likely due to it crashing in the tissue post injection. That is, the vials I had that were crashed then heated were not heated long / high enough. The vials I have that were not crashed had no issues. I’ve since come up with a heating protocol for the crashed vials, which is at a higher temp and for a longer time than I thought was necessary, and now I have no issues. But I can only imagine my CRP was likely very elevated during the times of pip, redness, swelling etc.
C) in it. I didn’t check my CRP at the time but I spent a few weeks fighting with crashed Anadrol only to realize that the reactions I was having was likely due to it crashing in the tissue post injection. That is, the vials I had that were crashed then heated were not heated long / high enough. The vials I have that were not crashed had no issues. I’ve since come up with a heating protocol for the crashed vials, which is at a higher temp and for a longer time than I thought was necessary, and now I have no issues. But I can only imagine my CRP was likely very elevated during the times of pip, redness, swelling etc.
RockyP
Member
Seems like there’s a host of things here that could be the culprit. If you really want to find out what’s going on the most reasonable option is to go to TRT for a month, let all this other shit clear out, and get a baseline hsCRP. If it’s normal at that time you can start systematically adding things back. Any other approach is likely to result in you chasing your tail. Remember even hsCRP is nonspecific. If you drop the TNE and the number goes down that doesn’t necessarily mean it was the TNE. However, if you clear out everything, get a baseline, then add the TNE back in and then it’s elevated, tou can attribute it to the TNE. But even then you don’t know if it’s the api, or if it’s crashing post injection. As far as MiG 840, it’s designed specifically to be anti/non inflammatory. I think a lot of guys reporting issues with mig840 really have issues with what is dissolved (or not fully dissolved in the case of stuff like injectable Anadrol, TNE, etc
C) in it. I didn’t check my CRP at the time but I spent a few weeks fighting with crashed Anadrol only to realize that the reactions I was having was likely due to it crashing in the tissue post injection. That is, the vials I had that were crashed then heated were not heated long / high enough. The vials I have that were not crashed had no issues. I’ve since come up with a heating protocol for the crashed vials, which is at a higher temp and for a longer time than I thought was necessary, and now I have no issues. But I can only imagine my CRP was likely very elevated during the times of pip, redness, swelling etc.
C) in it. I didn’t check my CRP at the time but I spent a few weeks fighting with crashed Anadrol only to realize that the reactions I was having was likely due to it crashing in the tissue post injection. That is, the vials I had that were crashed then heated were not heated long / high enough. The vials I have that were not crashed had no issues. I’ve since come up with a heating protocol for the crashed vials, which is at a higher temp and for a longer time than I thought was necessary, and now I have no issues. But I can only imagine my CRP was likely very elevated during the times of pip, redness, swelling etc.
xrayphoton13
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You wipe the top of your vial but not the skin? This is an abscess waiting to happen. You're already wiping the vial, just sit the alcohol swab next to the vial and then wipe your skin with it before injection.
Bold cyp is known to cause pip which could lead to elevated crp. Mig840 can do the same
Bold cyp is known to cause pip which could lead to elevated crp. Mig840 can do the same
Yeah I'm a fucking dumbass for not wiping the injection site, I did start doing that after making this post and feeling embarrassed about it lol, but I had to mention it since it seemed relevant. I'd rather embarrass myself publicly if it helps someone else not make the same mistake.
The Bold C has been almost pipless. Not 100% but enough that I don't notice it most sites and didn't realize I had it at all at first.
Since my CRP was elevated before I even started the cycle. Another possibility that occurred to me was that it was related to the Test U I'd been taking. That was Chinese. I stopped at the start of the cycle as I switched over to a shorter ester. The oil and solvents from an injection don't stick around as long as the esterified testosterone do they? I should still have some Test U in my body now, but none of the other stuff that was in it. Another stupid thing is that I didn't have my vials stored upright for years so I could have been injecting dissolved stopper for years at this point. I learned the error of my ways from Meso last year. I just had them loosely sitting in a drawer. Now I have a whole ass toolchest for gear and have been 3d printing gridfinity stuff to organize it, and everything has been sitting upright for months, but I still wonder if I've just been permenently inflamed for years since I didn't start testing hs-CRP until a coupe months ago.
The Bold C has been almost pipless. Not 100% but enough that I don't notice it most sites and didn't realize I had it at all at first.
Since my CRP was elevated before I even started the cycle. Another possibility that occurred to me was that it was related to the Test U I'd been taking. That was Chinese. I stopped at the start of the cycle as I switched over to a shorter ester. The oil and solvents from an injection don't stick around as long as the esterified testosterone do they? I should still have some Test U in my body now, but none of the other stuff that was in it. Another stupid thing is that I didn't have my vials stored upright for years so I could have been injecting dissolved stopper for years at this point. I learned the error of my ways from Meso last year. I just had them loosely sitting in a drawer. Now I have a whole ass toolchest for gear and have been 3d printing gridfinity stuff to organize it, and everything has been sitting upright for months, but I still wonder if I've just been permenently inflamed for years since I didn't start testing hs-CRP until a coupe months ago.
I had been taking glutathione in varying dosages for a few months leading up to the start of the cycle, and still am. When I started off and up until a couple weeks ago, I'd basically always feel some kind of relief from the glutathione that was hard to put my finger on. Like a low-level spiky fuzzy feeling would get washed away. Kinda wondering if that's inflammation. That has basically ceased for the last couple weeks. I'm still injecting 500mg glutathione EOD from the same kits bought at the same time from the same vendor, but I don't feel anything from it anymore. Really curious to see if my hs-CRP has dropped and if there's a connection there. Monday (plus the wait for the results...) can't come soon enough! Sketchy Chinese Test U stored on its side, likely made with EO, stopper leaching into the oil, seems like a great potential candidate for a source of high hs-CRP and 8 weeks is enough time for most that to get out of my system.
CRP is down! Hooray for extremely broad markers that leave me with little clue of exactly what caused it. But I'm gonna guess it was the crashed TNE and/or the sketchy chinese Test U.
Mirin that lipid panel, The lipid stack really does work. albeit youre not on an even remotely high dose
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