400mg Hilma test C per week blood work

[randomguy87]

Got pre bloods done back in December before I got on so posting those as well. The newest blood work is from last week which was 4.5 weeks after starting Hilma test cyp at 400mg per week, 1 injection per week. Bloods were pulled on Wednesday afternoon, while injections have all been on Sunday mornings, so 3.5 days later. I'm currently taking half of a 1mg Anastrozole every other day, also from Hilma (and have been for over a month, was taking a different source AI before). My last AI dose was Tuesday morning before the day of bloodwork.

I wanted to get lipids checked but I wasn't planning on getting bloods done and wasn't fasted. Ordered this after breakfast before work at 5am when I realized it may be the only day in the near future I could get it done..

Definitely worth noting I was using a different sources Test Cyp before this for 4 weeks as well but that was split in 2 injections, at the same total dosage though.

TLDR:
test cyp 400mg/wk 1 injection wk
.5 mg arimidex every other day

Going to be doing some reading up on the BUN and BUN/Creatinine ration since they are high and I have no idea what they are at the moment.

 

[bambam333]

Bun and creatinine is your kidneys how’s your water intake

 

[nukklehead]

Bun Cr slightly up. Most of the time we use eGFR anymore on kidney function. Suppose to be more accurate (???) Yours is still in normal range but did show some changes. Something to keep an eye on. Most likely caused by maybe a small element of dehydration and high protein diet (????)..Looks like you have estradiol dialed in nicely. btw GFR stands for glomerular filtration rate. Google for more info.

 

[randomguy87]

Thanks for the replies guys. I've been doing some research myself as well. To answer your questions: I usually drink 1 to 2 gallons of water a day. I'd say probably closer to 2 most the time. Only drink water. Also I eat around 280 grams of protein a day, sometimes a little more. I weigh 178 and am 5'10". Trying to find info on what level will actually start giving me problems but going to have to pick back up on the research tomorrow sometime.

Also wanted to mention my diet is pretty much the same as before I got on the test which makes me believe the elevated bun is not from high protein seeing as how I've been consuming this much protein even during my pre cycle bloods and long before where it came back normal

 

[randomguy87]

Bun Cr slightly up. Most of the time we use eGFR anymore on kidney function. Suppose to be more accurate (???) Yours is still in normal range but did show some changes. Something to keep an eye on. Most likely caused by maybe a small element of dehydration and high protein diet (????)..Looks like you have estradiol dialed in nicely. btw GFR stands for glomerular filtration rate. Google for more info.

Also thanks a lot for the additional info will definitely be googling that as well!

 

[nukklehead]

keep us updated if you can. I never knew of test to affect the kidneys ( if that is whats happening).. I figured most gearheads with kidney disease ate a ton of protein, took too much oral anabolics or NSAIDS etc. Hypertension can cause kidney issues but usually this occurs over a long period of time. Might not be a bad ideal to do a recheck in 3-4 weeks. You don't need the entire panel if it is cheaper to just check BUN/CR and or GFR.. Your protein intake seems reasonable and not excessive. Did you start any other medication?

 

[Den84]

@randomguy87 thank you for sharing, I’m using now hilma primobolan and sustanon, and the cycle going very well. Next week I switch to bold and test c (hilma) and parabolan (balkan). So I’m very happy that test c hilma has given you excellent values (2800 is great result with 400 mg week) and also arimidex looks like it worked perfectly.
Can you say the exp date of your test c ? Mine is exp. 08/2021
Thank you

 

[randomguy87]

keep us updated if you can. I never knew of test to affect the kidneys ( if that is whats happening).. I figured most gearheads with kidney disease ate a ton of protein, took too much oral anabolics or NSAIDS etc. Hypertension can cause kidney issues but usually this occurs over a long period of time. Might not be a bad ideal to do a recheck in 3-4 weeks. You don't need the entire panel if it is cheaper to just check BUN/CR and or GFR.. Your protein intake seems reasonable and not excessive. Did you start any other medication?

Will definitely keep the thread updated. Let me give you a little timeline of how I've gone about this. I must admit, even after the countless hours of research for months before hand, I still made many mistakes during this first run. Also learned a lot as well.

Pretty much started out in January on a really low dose (200-250mg/wk?), was going to take it easy this time, however I realized I was probably wasting my time and on Feb 9th I hopped on GSO enanthate which I had many more vials of than the MCT cyp. I put 5 weeks of that in at 500mg/week, with crippling pain and swelling for a long time after each injection. Finally I said fuck that (tried different vials of the same stuff), went back to the cyp at 400/wk on Mar 9th and put an order in for the stuff I'm currently using, which is also cyp just in sesame oil. Started on this current cyp on Apr 13th. So total time on a higher dose is just over 14 weeks right now. One other thing is I took 50mg/day of var for almost 4 weeks in the month of March. I felt like shit on it. Towards the end my urine was getting a little darker and just all around didn't feel good. Don't plan on taking any orals again. No idea if this could have caused it and if so if it should be recovered by now.

I know for sure I fucked it up by switching the oils earlier on, as I'm just now noticing some changes here and there, which is why I am trying to drag it out for another couple weeks. One thing I will be doing in the future is probably limiting my test to about 200 or 250mg a week and using a different compound at a higher dose, most likely give primo a try. Test at higher dosage just makes me break out in acne which I've never had a problem with and also I believe my blood pressure has gone up a bit as well. Definitely looking forward to the future where I have the chance to run a complete cycle without fucking everything up in the process.. haha.

 

[randomguy87]

@randomguy87 thank you for sharing, I’m using now hilma primobolan and sustanon, and the cycle going very well. Next week I switch to bold and test c (hilma) and parabolan (balkan). So I’m very happy that test c hilma has given you excellent values (2800 is great result with 400 mg week) and also arimidex looks like it worked perfectly.
Can you say the exp date of your test c ? Mine is exp. 08/2021
Thank you

Hey man, I've read a lot of posts and threads by you and appreciate all the info from the lab tests and info you have posted. My exp. is 08/2021 on the cyp as well, and batch number below it is 047849. Anastrozole exp. date is also the same, 08/2021.

Good to hear the cycle is going well. I want to try higher primo with lower test my next run. I also wanted to give bold a shot with lower test but appetite has been an issue sometimes during this cycle which I think may be due to the high test, as I've had it pretty under control for a while before hand. Still undecided if I will ever give bold the chance because of that, which is the reason I may go test/primo instead.

 

[nukklehead]

Will definitely keep the thread updated. Let me give you a little timeline of how I've gone about this. I must admit, even after the countless hours of research for months before hand, I still made many mistakes during this first run. Also learned a lot as well.

Pretty much started out in January on a really low dose (200-250mg/wk?), was going to take it easy this time, however I realized I was probably wasting my time and on Feb 9th I hopped on GSO enanthate which I had many more vials of than the MCT cyp. I put 5 weeks of that in at 500mg/week, with crippling pain and swelling for a long time after each injection. Finally I said fuck that (tried different vials of the same stuff), went back to the cyp at 400/wk on Mar 9th and put an order in for the stuff I'm currently using, which is also cyp just in sesame oil. Started on this current cyp on Apr 13th. So total time on a higher dose is just over 14 weeks right now. One other thing is I took 50mg/day of var for almost 4 weeks in the month of March. I felt like shit on it. Towards the end my urine was getting a little darker and just all around didn't feel good. Don't plan on taking any orals again. No idea if this could have caused it and if so if it should be recovered by now.

I know for sure I fucked it up by switching the oils earlier on, as I'm just now noticing some changes here and there, which is why I am trying to drag it out for another couple weeks. One thing I will be doing in the future is probably limiting my test to about 200 or 250mg a week and using a different compound at a higher dose, most likely give primo a try. Test at higher dosage just makes me break out in acne which I've never had a problem with and also I believe my blood pressure has gone up a bit as well. Definitely looking forward to the future where I have the chance to run a complete cycle without fucking everything up in the process.. haha.

Anyone here think the Var tweaked his kidneys a little bit?... Im still trying to wrap my head around Test causing ever so slightly impaired renal function but I think after your statement about the Var and urine color , Im going to chalk those abnormal kidney lab values to the Var unless anyone else has a better explanation. (???)

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Anyone here think the Var tweaked his kidneys a little bit?... Im still trying to wrap my head around Test causing ever so slightly impaired renal function but I think after your statement about the Var and urine color , Im going to chalk those abnormal kidney lab values to the Var unless anyone else has a better explanation. (???)

Anavar is primarily metabolized by the kidneys... So, i guess that could be a possibility. Not taking in enough water could have added to that as well.

 

[randomguy87]

Yep I am hoping that was the case and that they are currently recovering, I'm possibly going to get more bloodwork done in a couple weeks to check up on it. However if I stop the test or drop to a cruise and they seem to have improved then I won't know for sure which it is. Guess I'll see where I'm at when the time comes.

 

[randomguy87]

New blood results are in. Still doing once a week injection Sunday mornings, 400mg Test Cyp. Bloods were pulled this Monday, in the afternoon. Arimidex still at .5mg every other day. Believe this is week 8 or 9 now.

Couple things: Prolactin is back to normal. BUN is up slightly. Oh well guess it is the test after all, unless it happens to be the Arimidex. Maybe I'll give Aromasin a go next cycle just for the hell of it to see. I'm not to worried about it, you can see from my pre-bloods it was on the higher end of normal already. Other 2 high markers are just barely over, so not to worried about them either.

I had a hunch that my test levels, as well as E2 were up, as I got further into the cycle. Guess that turned out to be correct. Going to up the AI dosage a bit to bring E2 down some. I won't be getting bloods again til I'm finished with the cycle, since this shit gets expensive haha. Otherwise I'm still happy with how everything is going for the most part.