47 first blood tests and low Test 244 only been lifting for a few years and not making much progress I need some advice.

[UncleBuns]

Ok thanks for the info, know that my T was very low from what I’ve seen when you use around 200 a week it looked like it raised your T around 600 points,i know everyone body is different

There's no way to know how much your total T will go up per mg of test. You might be able to find an average online, but it varies widely. I've seen trt anywhere from about 70 mg a week to over 200 mg to achieve a similar total T level. When starting I would suggest being conservative and I would go with the 100 to 120ish range then go from there.

Initially you really want to find your baseline dosing protocol for TRT so that can be your set point that you can always come back to. If you decide to only do trt then you're good to go and if you decide to experiment with other things in the future then you will have your set point that you can go back to.

 

[MJMoor]

Ok thanks for all the helpful advice, I’ll try to start lower and not go too high too soon

 

[UncleBuns]

Ok thanks for all the helpful advice, I’ll try to start lower and not go too high too soon

Also there is nothing inherently wrong with test c or daily test p. Through experimentation, different people find their sweet spot and what they feel best on. If you are going the legal route through a clinic. It is very likely the only thing they will offer you is test C. Test C is a great starting point.

 

[AlexDavis43]

If you are going the legal route through a clinic. It is very likely the only thing they will offer you is test C. Test C is a great starting point.

For TRT clinics, yeah they mainly offer only Test C (some also offer hCG, and anavar or deca). For your GP or endo, you can ask about Nebido, Androgel, Natesto, etc.

 

[readalot]

As far as T "clinics" with the right "issues"...

Test Ester
Test nasal gel
Test cream
Test troche
Nandrolone D
Oxandrolone
Stanozolol
Danozol (not worth much)
Not cheap GH LOL
HCG

Those are the only androgens I've seen via legal Rx. If you look in the orange book there's one or two more but I've never seen them available.

 

[MJMoor]

I went gray with my peptides but I haven’t looked into oils that much ,I did see some good Black Friday sales

 

[readalot]

orange book

Wow going back and checking it's more than I remembered. I guess no compounder going to put a target on themselves to compound Mast. Then there is the API supplier.

A halotestin troche would be fun though lol.

nandrolone (ND and NPP)
ethyloestrenol - maxibolin
dromostanolone - masteron
fluoxymesterone - halotestin
oxandrolone*** (see below)
stanozolol
oxymetholone

 

[Deezznutzz]

I don’t have a target total T but around 800 I would say.I just want to have more energy recovery libido! More muscle mass,is the main thing

250 a week would put me over 1500 testosterone. 200 a week puts me at 900-1200. I wouldn't start higher than 200 a week. With 200 a week I need an AI and 4 blood donations a year to keep hematocrit around 49-51. Been on 200 a week about three years. After this last blast I'm thinking about lowering my trt. That way I'll have better labs and better blasts. Maybe to 175mg a week.

 

[TurboJet]

Units please. At least on free T

125 or 250 mg/week?

250 would be absurd retarded as a starting regimen for TRT.

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My clinic Doc started me at 400 a week
Test Cyp 200mg/ml twice a week!

 

[readalot]

My clinic Doc started me at 400 a week
Test Cyp 200mg/ml twice a week!

1 ml of 200 mg/ml twice weekly. To start?

 

[TurboJet]

1 ml of 200 mg/ml twice weekly. To start?

Yup! I will say that he didn't mind my T being over 1500 ask me if I felt good and about a few other things and he was happy. TRT/HRT clinics are the new pill mills around here along with the fat doctors that prescribe phentermine and stronger for weight loss.

 

[readalot]

will say that he didn't mind my T being over 1500

I would say so. WAY over 1500 haha. Mean response at that dose per week would be about 3000 ng/dl TT.

Thanks for sharing the data point. Wow.

 

[MJMoor]

I went gray with my peptides but I haven’t looked into oils that much ,I did see some good Black Friday sales

Same here the gray market for peptides is a lot less risky imo than oils