47 year old second cycle

[Grandpa]

As the title implies, I am 47 years old, looking to maximize the opportunity pack on some lean muscle mass before I get too old.

I’m a small guy. 5‘6“ tall and 150 pounds. Body fat is about 15% give or take. Training is decent and diet is well tracked consisting of high protein at just above maintenance calories. Mostly clean foods.

I am inquiring about suggested second compounds to add to a second cycle. I have read through the forum, and I’ve seen plenty of suggestions, but the limitations are that these questions are often asked by teenage boys met with stiff criticism, and rightly so.

Among the top suggestions, I’ve seen are adding masteron to testosterone; adding deca and masteron to testosterone; adding masteron and growth hormone to testosterone; and primo and testosterone.

I am open to sticking with testosterone and just blasting and cruising, but to limit the possibility of E2 sides and maximize potential, I am curious about second compounds.

Not really interested in adding third and fourth compounds. Just a one at a time approach to limit independent variables.

Please take it easy on this old man. I am not jumping into anything.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

If I were in your position, it would be test, primo, and GH.

Primo will be nicer side effect wise and perform nearly the same role as mast. Test and GH should be a standard TRT protocol for anyone over 45 dabbling in AAS. 2:1 test to primo is a good starting point. Get bloodwork to confirm.

 

[Grandpa]

If I were in your position, it would be test, primo, and GH.

Primo will be nicer side effect wise and perform nearly the same role as mast. Test and GH should be a standard TRT protocol for anyone over 45 dabbling in AAS. 2:1 test to primo is a good starting point. Get bloodwork to confirm.

Thank you for your input. Sounds like great advice.

 

[Mrhairyman]

As the title implies, I am 47 years old, looking to maximize the opportunity pack on some lean muscle mass before I get too old

Test / Primo / Deca
Deca works wonders on the joints at our age

 

[Grandpa]

Test / Primo / Deca
Deca works wonders on the joints at our age

Thank you. My joints do hurt

I’ve read that Deca can cause mood issues and I’m already a grumpy old bastard. Is this a problem you are familiar with?

 

[knucklesamich]

Something androgenic might be nice. Something from the DHT variety, like Anavar. It will not turn to estrogen like a wet compound, and it'll add lean muscle. Very friendly compound compared to some and it's an oral, so less volume to have to deal with when it's injection time. DHT derivatives like Var make ya feel kind of good. It's subtle though, but a good addon for folks our age

 

[SBD1]

Everyone over the age of 28-30 would benefit greatly from a few iu of growth hormone

 

[Grandpa]

Something androgenic might be nice. Something from the DHT variety, like Anavar. It will not turn to estrogen like a wet compound, and it'll add lean muscle. Very friendly compound compared to some and it's an oral, so less volume to have to deal with when it's injection time. DHT derivatives like Var make ya feel kind of good. It's subtle though, but a good addon for folks our age

Thank you. I think that’s a good suggestion for finishing out a cycle. I appreciate it.

 

[Grandpa]

Everyone over the age of 28-30 would benefit greatly from a few iu of growth hormone

Thank you. Can you expound on the benefits of GH for us old folks. I’ll also revisit the threads about it.

 

[SBD1]

Thank you. Can you expound on the benefits of GH for us old folks. I’ll also revisit the threads about it.

It makes old men feel young. Keeps your waist tight, takes all the calories to the right place, sleep quality is improved greatly, steroids work more efficiently. Recovery is amazing.

It’s like when you play those video poker machines and hit a multiplier. Everything works better.

But don’t trust me, here it is directly from the lion’s mouth.

if you are 28 and over...this is when gh even at 5-6 iu a day can cause a big difference,, over 32...you will have to have gh in system inorder to really fulfil potential of your bodybuilding if you want to compete,,

ofcourse you can be bodybuilder with no gh ,,it will just be a more sad bodybuild lol ,,a more ummmm quiet type of bodybuild,, there is something we bodybuild always mesure things by ...that sometihng is the girls ...how they look at us,, the fellas on gh know what im talking about ,,they know how the girls have this open mouth type of look or the big deer stuck in the midle of the cross roads type of look when they see the width and the polished tight look of a gh equipona testosterona user .... it is specific look that no matter how muscular one is ...if not on gh that fella will NEVER have no matter how veiny he is or how thick he is or how defined he is ,,he will lack the volumization ,,CONDITIONED SIZE,,

take a look at denise in the picture with the rifle and guns in the desert lol look at hoew he look like in this huge HUGE shirt,,he make this shirt look very good right? this shirt is HUGE and yet it look pretty good on him he make it look fitting him nicely right? this is what im talkin about to a lesser degree with amatuers,, it is something that where ever you walk people stop ,,think for a second ,, and just ponder and wonder with owe,, most whores ofcourse ae already haveing a tingling sensation in their clitorious and just waiting for you to smile at them back,, that type of body always get any girl it wants to fuck ,, and fuck her pretty fast ,,so its good for bodybuild and good for girls banging

gh15 approved

 

[lilhawk]

Something androgenic might be nice. Something from the DHT variety, like Anavar. It will not turn to estrogen like a wet compound, and it'll add lean muscle. Very friendly compound compared to some and it's an oral, so less volume to have to deal with when it's injection time. DHT derivatives like Var make ya feel kind of good. It's subtle though, but a good addon for folks our age

Primo is a DHT. Var is known to wreck lipids and as people get older its a better idea to stay away from orals altogether.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Primo is a DHT. Var is known to wreck lipids and as people get older its a better idea to stay away from orals altogether.

This.

 

[Grandpa]

It makes old men feel young. Keeps your waist tight, takes all the calories to the right place, sleep quality is improved greatly, steroids work more efficiently. Recovery is amazing.

It’s like when you play those video poker machines and hit a multiplier. Everything works better.

But don’t trust me, here it is directly from the lion’s mouth.

if you are 28 and over...this is when gh even at 5-6 iu a day can cause a big difference,, over 32...you will have to have gh in system inorder to really fulfil potential of your bodybuilding if you want to compete,,

ofcourse you can be bodybuilder with no gh ,,it will just be a more sad bodybuild lol ,,a more ummmm quiet type of bodybuild,, there is something we bodybuild always mesure things by ...that sometihng is the girls ...how they look at us,, the fellas on gh know what im talking about ,,they know how the girls have this open mouth type of look or the big deer stuck in the midle of the cross roads type of look when they see the width and the polished tight look of a gh equipona testosterona user .... it is specific look that no matter how muscular one is ...if not on gh that fella will NEVER have no matter how veiny he is or how thick he is or how defined he is ,,he will lack the volumization ,,CONDITIONED SIZE,,

take a look at denise in the picture with the rifle and guns in the desert lol look at hoew he look like in this huge HUGE shirt,,he make this shirt look very good right? this shirt is HUGE and yet it look pretty good on him he make it look fitting him nicely right? this is what im talkin about to a lesser degree with amatuers,, it is something that where ever you walk people stop ,,think for a second ,, and just ponder and wonder with owe,, most whores ofcourse ae already haveing a tingling sensation in their clitorious and just waiting for you to smile at them back,, that type of body always get any girl it wants to fuck ,, and fuck her pretty fast ,,so its good for bodybuild and good for girls banging

gh15 approved

Excellent

 

[Grandpa]

This.

I’ve heard that. And I do want to be cautious and leave them alone for now. No plans to use orals. Just investigating at this point.

 

[Grandpa]

Primo is a DHT. Var is known to wreck lipids and as people get older its a better idea to stay away from orals altogether.

Thank you for the reminder

 

[SBD1]

You can always throw 25-50mg proviron on top of any cycle you run if it’s lacking dht. One of the best feel good hormones there is.

 

[Grandpa]

This.

Which is more helpful for my purposes? The primo or the hgh?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Which is more helpful for my purposes? The primo or the hgh?

Likely the GH. But these are two drastically different classes of drugs. Completely rational and reasonable take on not wanting to add more than one thing at a time, but because GHs benefits are so different I would advise considering adding that as well.

If I had to make a one or the other choice I’d choose GH.

 

[Grandpa]

Likely the GH. But these are two drastically different classes of drugs. Completely rational and reasonable take on not wanting to add more than one thing at a time, but because GHs benefits are so different I would advise considering adding that as well.

If I had to make a one or the other choice I’d choose GH.

Thank you sir. I greatly appreciate your input!

 

[knucklesamich]

Primo is a DHT. Var is known to wreck lipids and as people get older its a better idea to stay away from orals altogether.

That is true, I've seen a lot of folks crashing their estrogen levels lately with Primo though too. I suppose it depends on quantity and the person. Crashed estrogen can equate to even further joint pain. Risks with both, decisions decisions. We'll think of something for this guy

Halo anyone? J/K