janoshik
Subscriber
Very interesting.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
a few more GENERIC GH ASSAYS
- Thread starter Dr JIM
- Start date
janoshik
Subscriber
It does not really work that way with bioengineered products.
You don't really include 'all the required Amino Acids' somehow and get HGH, that is simply not how that works.
Damn Jim no offense, but that's just another one of your "explainations" that worked, NOT!
That's just NOT true you little dip shit, bc I worked all day carefully parsing the words in that post and the reason no follow up questions have been made is EVERYONE understood it CLOWN.
Damn "no offense" but how do NOOBS of your ilk find Meso!
Good to see that you are testin the testin, very fair.....
Its understandable if the Sero is a fake that it could possibly b underdosed and doesn't match up to quality either. If it isnt alot must b rethought....
Roco Bama
Well-known Member
Can someone provide the link for this assay that has the underdosed serostim ?
Eman
Master
It's right in mands' post dude, come on the hell on... This thread is only two pages long!
Some need a VERY LARGE spoon!
SAMPLE --------- B (TESTED @ 2.08mgs)
SEROSTIM 4mg, Donated by a MESO member - Private Source (pharmacy)
SAMPLE ------- F-2 (TESTED @ 2.46mgs)
Haiziyuan BioHygene (8IU), Donated by a MESO member - Sport-HGH.com
-SIMEC TESTED @ 2.87mg/vial (Both vials tested are from different batches)
SAMPLE ---------- D (TESTED @ 4.32mgs - 13IUs)
AngTropin 3.33 mg, Donated by MESO member - Toptopshop.org
-SIMEC TESTED @ 17.5IUs/vial (Both vials tested are from same kit)
SAMPLE ---------- E-2 (TESTED @ 3.62mgs)
Hygetropin 3.33mg, Donated by a MESO member - WorldHGH.com Hygetropin.com.cn
-DIFFERENT LAB USING SAME (AAA) TESTING METHOD TESTED @ 2.832 mgs/vial
(Both vials tested are from same kit)
SAMPLE ---------- G (Tested @2.80mgs)
JINTROPIN 3.33mg, Donated by a MESO member -JINTROPIN-Online.com
-SIMEC TESTED @ 2.69mgs/vial
-DIFFERENT LAB USING SAME (AAA) TESTING METHOD TESTED @ 1.405mgs/vial
* NOTE (all vials tested are Authentic Jin's from different regions - Russia, Mexico,etc)
LAB STATES:
If the somatropin is a pure protein without formulation buffer AAA will allow quantification of the protein using our standard AAA.
However, if somatropin is formulated as a pharmaceutical drug for injection, a glycine buffer is used for the formulation. Therefore the glycine peak will be very large and comprise the data.
SANDOZ OMNITROPE (Generic) contains GLYCINE 27.6 mgs/vial
I have 4 more rHGH samples at my normal testing lab being tested using AAA testing method
I'll post those when I receive them......but.....it seems this isn't the most reliable testing method
SEROSTIM 4mg, Donated by a MESO member - Private Source (pharmacy)
SAMPLE ------- F-2 (TESTED @ 2.46mgs)
Haiziyuan BioHygene (8IU), Donated by a MESO member - Sport-HGH.com
-SIMEC TESTED @ 2.87mg/vial (Both vials tested are from different batches)
SAMPLE ---------- D (TESTED @ 4.32mgs - 13IUs)
AngTropin 3.33 mg, Donated by MESO member - Toptopshop.org
-SIMEC TESTED @ 17.5IUs/vial (Both vials tested are from same kit)
SAMPLE ---------- E-2 (TESTED @ 3.62mgs)
Hygetropin 3.33mg, Donated by a MESO member - WorldHGH.com Hygetropin.com.cn
-DIFFERENT LAB USING SAME (AAA) TESTING METHOD TESTED @ 2.832 mgs/vial
(Both vials tested are from same kit)
SAMPLE ---------- G (Tested @2.80mgs)
JINTROPIN 3.33mg, Donated by a MESO member -JINTROPIN-Online.com
-SIMEC TESTED @ 2.69mgs/vial
-DIFFERENT LAB USING SAME (AAA) TESTING METHOD TESTED @ 1.405mgs/vial
* NOTE (all vials tested are Authentic Jin's from different regions - Russia, Mexico,etc)
LAB STATES:
If the somatropin is a pure protein without formulation buffer AAA will allow quantification of the protein using our standard AAA.
However, if somatropin is formulated as a pharmaceutical drug for injection, a glycine buffer is used for the formulation. Therefore the glycine peak will be very large and comprise the data.
SANDOZ OMNITROPE (Generic) contains GLYCINE 27.6 mgs/vial
I have 4 more rHGH samples at my normal testing lab being tested using AAA testing method
I'll post those when I receive them......but.....it seems this isn't the most reliable testing method
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Professor X
Does that statement mean just Products that use a buffer solution( glycine)?
Or are you sayin that AAA testin in general isn't the most reliable testing method?????
Cpriest88
New Member
I updated the spreadsheet ... Generic HGH Assays
Serostim sourced from a Pharmacy underdosed 48%?! WTF?
I have a couple questions for you @mands
The 240iu kits do not state contents in mg nor is it advertised by Godtropin through their site etc... 24iu would equal 8mg if we went by the WHO standard... coincidentally, 5.87mg is the "mgs of HGH in the bottle" result shown on the report posted by Jim for this sample... just for the sake of clarity and accuracy I believe you meant to type 8mg in your sample ID post. Please confirm.
Also... was the source/product ever identified for Sample X ? I may have missed a post.
Reported here : Ah finally the NEXT (3rd) Generic GH Assay Thread
Thanks guys for all the work.
-Cpriest
Serostim sourced from a Pharmacy underdosed 48%?! WTF?
I have a couple questions for you @mands
The 240iu kits do not state contents in mg nor is it advertised by Godtropin through their site etc... 24iu would equal 8mg if we went by the WHO standard... coincidentally, 5.87mg is the "mgs of HGH in the bottle" result shown on the report posted by Jim for this sample... just for the sake of clarity and accuracy I believe you meant to type 8mg in your sample ID post. Please confirm.
Also... was the source/product ever identified for Sample X ? I may have missed a post.
Reported here : Ah finally the NEXT (3rd) Generic GH Assay Thread
Thanks guys for all the work.
-Cpriest
Cpriest88
New Member
@ProfessorX did you do any recent testing on the 24iu vials of GodTropin ? I believe I saw an older test but noticed it was left out in your post above ... was that done on the old 12iu labeled vials?
The sample sent for testing was from a kit marked:
GODT240
24IU
Batch No: 180316
Mfg Date: 18/03/16
Exp Date: 18/03/18
HAIZIYUAN BioHygene are 8IU vials - not 10iu
Buck,
I don't know enough about the testing to give an accurate answer, so I'll let Mands, Jim, and Jano discuss that.
But....judging by the inconsistent sample results posted, the SEROSTIM result, and the information stated by the lab....IMO....I think the results are hit and miss using this testing method (AAA) for the type of samples we are testing (formulated proteins - biosimilars)
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Cpriest88
New Member
@ProfessorX ah! Thanks for catching that ... fixed.
And I was asking if you recently tested the gods (not through Jim) ... curious to see if there was any variance to the result compared to these current reports.
And I was asking if you recently tested the gods (not through Jim) ... curious to see if there was any variance to the result compared to these current reports.
Sorry..correction
I DO have a GodT sample vial from the same kit tested through Jim at a different Lab
Waiting on the results (AAA)
I'd like Jims take on GodTropin sample Z
There's been complaints about injection site irritation (red welts) with different GodT "batches"
Maybe there is a connection?
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Cpriest88
New Member
Yes, I'm interested to see as well.
Anecdotally ... I have not experienced any welts with the gods and come to think of it never from the many UGL GHs I've "researched" ... so it could just be my own response (or lack thereof)
Only time I've had welts was from RC peptides.
janoshik
Subscriber
Buck,
I don't know enough about the testing to give an accurate answer, so I'll let Mands, Jim, and Jano discuss that.
But....judging by the inconsistent sample results posted, the SEROSTIM result, and the information stated by the lab....IMO....I think the results are hit and miss using this testing method (AAA) for the type of samples we are testing (formulated proteins - biosimilars)
I have already expressed my opinion about this. Quite strongly.
Thank you for your time and additional data!
