Just registered after finding the thread: a long term unconventional HRT/TRT regimen with tren and test.
That thread was part of my research project for my own long-term unconvential HRT/TRT protocol with Dianabol
Below is a short summary of my complete report on how I self-cured my low Testosterone with 7mg oral Dianabol powder combined with 14mg intranasal Dianabol powder, both administered within the first hour of awakening each morning.
Dianabol was developed by Dr. John Bosely Ziegler precisely for the treament of hypogonadism (Testosterone deficiency) and other disorders at low daily doses of 5-10mg.
Combined with careful early-morning administration without other foods to slow absorption, I can say with 100% positivity that not only does Dianabol completely cure all the physical and mental symptoms of low Testosterone but it does this with minimal suppression of existing Testosterone production if the dose is kept at or below 10mg per day and it is timed correctly to co-incide with the natural morning Testosterone spike.
I'm 35 and was tested 1.5 months ago at only 340 ng/dl total Testosterone.
That's the level of an 85-100 year-old man, according to the study of healthy Boston men in 1996 here:
Testosterone Week: What’s a “Normal” Testosterone Level and How to Measure Your T
artofmanliness.com/2013/01/16/normal-testosterone-levels/
Measurements in Conventional Units (ng/dl)
Age # Subj. Total T
--------------------------------
25-34 45 617
35-44 22 668
45-54 23 606
55-64 43 562
65-74 47 524
75-84 48 471
85-100 21 376
My complete report from the start of treatment on August 7th, 2013 when I received ten grams of pure Dianabol powder directly from a Chinese chemical manufacturer until recent days is here:
T-Nation Forum: I titled the thread after my successful and world's first test of the intranasal route to deliver Dianabol directly to the brain for relief of the cognitive symptoms of low Testosterone. It includes my complete report on both intranasal and oral use and also my final program of combining both routes of administratoin for full symptom relief:
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/insufflation_snorting_dbol_trip_report (Insufflation (Snorting) Dbol - Trip Report)
tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/insufflation_snorting_dbol_trip_report
and mirrored on the Longecity Forum here:
Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism
longecity.org/forum/topic/34666-hypogonadotropic-hypogonadism/
On Longecity I'm known as Isochroma-Reborn and on T-Nation as Isochroma.
After suffering worsening symptoms for the past fifteen years, I finally worked up the guts to have my Testosterone tested by the hated needle - I've had way too many useless blood tests over the decades but none to test for Testosterone. All the tests by uninformed GPs were for the symptomatically-similar Hypothyroid, which I always tested OK for including the most recent test which included a TSH panel.
It's now September 19th and the few small side-effects of Dianabol therapy are gone except for the loose stool which I get from many foods and even Oxiracetam due to a hypersensitive GI tract. Very few others report such a side effect from Dianabol even at a bodybuilder's much higher doses.
I'm shining. Frankly, my life has taken a complete U-turn from suicidal depression, massive physical fatigue with muscle wasting, cognitive and memory dysfunctions to splendid physical health with gained muscle mass from basic regular cycling on hilly roads and a good diet with a range of other supplements.
Be sure to read my ART manifesto which I will post below in its entirety so others who have my condition and those who are just interested in the medical practicalities and moral philosophy behind using alternative androgens and routes of administration besides the disastrous single, medically-approved Testosterone hormone replacement therapy with only two routes of administration - injection and patches:
The ART Manifesto
This is going to sound like a manifesto, and maybe it is.
What this self-experimentation is, is ART - not science.
Androgen Replacement Therapy, rather than Testosterone Replacement Therapy.
ART includes TRT and a whole lot more because it encompasses the entire field of androgens, doses, timings and routes of administration.
ART strives to accomplish the activation of under-activated androgen receptors in both body and brain using the most suitable and appropriate androgen(s), doses, timings and routes of administration that best fit each case.
ART and TRT are not mutually exclusive but one contains the other.
Because of genetic and circumstantial hormonal individuality in each man, personally acceptable route(s) of administration, economic factors and numerous other considerations, the field of options must be kept as wide open as possible to be able to treat so many cases that are simply left in the cold as of today's offical medical practice.
ART is inclusive, not exclusive.
ART is not a fixed practice like TRT seems to have become. Instead it is always trying new options and alternatives because of both the complexity of each individual case and the new types of damages caused by modern technology itself - Xenoestrogens in particular. These chemicals can mangle a man's Leydig cells before he is even born, leaving him with half or less of his full complement of cells. By the time he reaches the age of twenty-five or thirty-five, his circulating Testosterone can be half of normal or less.
ART - unlike so many physicians - recognizes that these victims are now often young men in their twenties and thirties and does not attempt to deny their suffering or assume that they are trying to obtain androgens for other purposes but rather, fully investigates and treats with seriousness their conditions using the full array of therapeutic options.
ART recognizes that these young victims, if exposed to the currently-standard Testosterone replacement therapy, will have their fertility compromised or destroyed. Unlike the older practice of TRT for aging men whose fertility is not so critical, it's crucial that the younger victims of today be given more and better options to live a decent life while still being able to have children.
ART recognizes that these environmental casualties are increasing in both number and percent of the population each year as the planet and food supply become ever more polluted with a growing list of xenobiotic estrogenic molecules - some of which have already been found to kill Leydig cells in the womb. I have the studies.
ART also strives to have minimal negative impact on the patient's own Testosterone production if he still has some, so it steps lightly on his system by using androgens, timings, doses and routes of administration that have the absolute minimum impact on his natural production in a best-effort attempt to function as a complement rather than a suppressor.
Recognizing the normal circadian release of Testosterone, ART tries to imitate it rather than suppress it as current medical HRT practice does by introducing androgens at inappropriate times. The current medical practices of weekly injections or patches that provide continuous-release dosing cause abnormally continuous androgen receptor activation thereby maximizing negative-feedback mediated suppression and causing other issues since the entire body is evolved to receive its androgen receptor activation in a circadian rhythm.
Using supplemental Testosterone - while contained within the definition of ART practice - is in some ways opposed to its fundamental tenets due to supplemental Testosterone's strong suppression of endogenous production. Alternative androgens with less suppressive activity and often having other advantages over supplemental Testosterone - dbol being one among many - are often preferred by ART practitioners.
Nevertheless, since the ART field is inclusive and wide, TRT therapy is included within it as an option - one that is not always the best choice for many men but is always available alone or in combination with other therapeutic agents and modalities.
ART Therapy is a light at the end of the tunnel for the numerous men who are unable to receive Testosterone replacement therapy and others who failed on it or found that its negative effects were not to their liking.
ART Therapy is not perfect or ideal but strives to excel the current and limited therapeutic HRT options while also including them.
Finally, ART Therapy has no respect for and does not recognize the artificial and arbitrary limitations imposed on the treatments available to patients by the law, by corporate profits or by the medical Establishment so it can always perform at its best for the patient without denying options.
That thread was part of my research project for my own long-term unconvential HRT/TRT protocol with Dianabol
Below is a short summary of my complete report on how I self-cured my low Testosterone with 7mg oral Dianabol powder combined with 14mg intranasal Dianabol powder, both administered within the first hour of awakening each morning.Dianabol was developed by Dr. John Bosely Ziegler precisely for the treament of hypogonadism (Testosterone deficiency) and other disorders at low daily doses of 5-10mg.
Combined with careful early-morning administration without other foods to slow absorption, I can say with 100% positivity that not only does Dianabol completely cure all the physical and mental symptoms of low Testosterone but it does this with minimal suppression of existing Testosterone production if the dose is kept at or below 10mg per day and it is timed correctly to co-incide with the natural morning Testosterone spike.
I'm 35 and was tested 1.5 months ago at only 340 ng/dl total Testosterone.
That's the level of an 85-100 year-old man, according to the study of healthy Boston men in 1996 here:
Testosterone Week: What’s a “Normal” Testosterone Level and How to Measure Your T
artofmanliness.com/2013/01/16/normal-testosterone-levels/
Measurements in Conventional Units (ng/dl)
Age # Subj. Total T
--------------------------------
25-34 45 617
35-44 22 668
45-54 23 606
55-64 43 562
65-74 47 524
75-84 48 471
85-100 21 376
My complete report from the start of treatment on August 7th, 2013 when I received ten grams of pure Dianabol powder directly from a Chinese chemical manufacturer until recent days is here:
T-Nation Forum: I titled the thread after my successful and world's first test of the intranasal route to deliver Dianabol directly to the brain for relief of the cognitive symptoms of low Testosterone. It includes my complete report on both intranasal and oral use and also my final program of combining both routes of administratoin for full symptom relief:
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/insufflation_snorting_dbol_trip_report (Insufflation (Snorting) Dbol - Trip Report)
tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/insufflation_snorting_dbol_trip_report
and mirrored on the Longecity Forum here:
Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism
longecity.org/forum/topic/34666-hypogonadotropic-hypogonadism/
On Longecity I'm known as Isochroma-Reborn and on T-Nation as Isochroma.
After suffering worsening symptoms for the past fifteen years, I finally worked up the guts to have my Testosterone tested by the hated needle - I've had way too many useless blood tests over the decades but none to test for Testosterone. All the tests by uninformed GPs were for the symptomatically-similar Hypothyroid, which I always tested OK for including the most recent test which included a TSH panel.
It's now September 19th and the few small side-effects of Dianabol therapy are gone except for the loose stool which I get from many foods and even Oxiracetam due to a hypersensitive GI tract. Very few others report such a side effect from Dianabol even at a bodybuilder's much higher doses.
I'm shining. Frankly, my life has taken a complete U-turn from suicidal depression, massive physical fatigue with muscle wasting, cognitive and memory dysfunctions to splendid physical health with gained muscle mass from basic regular cycling on hilly roads and a good diet with a range of other supplements.
Be sure to read my ART manifesto which I will post below in its entirety so others who have my condition and those who are just interested in the medical practicalities and moral philosophy behind using alternative androgens and routes of administration besides the disastrous single, medically-approved Testosterone hormone replacement therapy with only two routes of administration - injection and patches:
The ART Manifesto
This is going to sound like a manifesto, and maybe it is.
What this self-experimentation is, is ART - not science.
Androgen Replacement Therapy, rather than Testosterone Replacement Therapy.
ART includes TRT and a whole lot more because it encompasses the entire field of androgens, doses, timings and routes of administration.
ART strives to accomplish the activation of under-activated androgen receptors in both body and brain using the most suitable and appropriate androgen(s), doses, timings and routes of administration that best fit each case.
ART and TRT are not mutually exclusive but one contains the other.
Because of genetic and circumstantial hormonal individuality in each man, personally acceptable route(s) of administration, economic factors and numerous other considerations, the field of options must be kept as wide open as possible to be able to treat so many cases that are simply left in the cold as of today's offical medical practice.
ART is inclusive, not exclusive.
ART is not a fixed practice like TRT seems to have become. Instead it is always trying new options and alternatives because of both the complexity of each individual case and the new types of damages caused by modern technology itself - Xenoestrogens in particular. These chemicals can mangle a man's Leydig cells before he is even born, leaving him with half or less of his full complement of cells. By the time he reaches the age of twenty-five or thirty-five, his circulating Testosterone can be half of normal or less.
ART - unlike so many physicians - recognizes that these victims are now often young men in their twenties and thirties and does not attempt to deny their suffering or assume that they are trying to obtain androgens for other purposes but rather, fully investigates and treats with seriousness their conditions using the full array of therapeutic options.
ART recognizes that these young victims, if exposed to the currently-standard Testosterone replacement therapy, will have their fertility compromised or destroyed. Unlike the older practice of TRT for aging men whose fertility is not so critical, it's crucial that the younger victims of today be given more and better options to live a decent life while still being able to have children.
ART recognizes that these environmental casualties are increasing in both number and percent of the population each year as the planet and food supply become ever more polluted with a growing list of xenobiotic estrogenic molecules - some of which have already been found to kill Leydig cells in the womb. I have the studies.
ART also strives to have minimal negative impact on the patient's own Testosterone production if he still has some, so it steps lightly on his system by using androgens, timings, doses and routes of administration that have the absolute minimum impact on his natural production in a best-effort attempt to function as a complement rather than a suppressor.
Recognizing the normal circadian release of Testosterone, ART tries to imitate it rather than suppress it as current medical HRT practice does by introducing androgens at inappropriate times. The current medical practices of weekly injections or patches that provide continuous-release dosing cause abnormally continuous androgen receptor activation thereby maximizing negative-feedback mediated suppression and causing other issues since the entire body is evolved to receive its androgen receptor activation in a circadian rhythm.
Using supplemental Testosterone - while contained within the definition of ART practice - is in some ways opposed to its fundamental tenets due to supplemental Testosterone's strong suppression of endogenous production. Alternative androgens with less suppressive activity and often having other advantages over supplemental Testosterone - dbol being one among many - are often preferred by ART practitioners.
Nevertheless, since the ART field is inclusive and wide, TRT therapy is included within it as an option - one that is not always the best choice for many men but is always available alone or in combination with other therapeutic agents and modalities.
ART Therapy is a light at the end of the tunnel for the numerous men who are unable to receive Testosterone replacement therapy and others who failed on it or found that its negative effects were not to their liking.
ART Therapy is not perfect or ideal but strives to excel the current and limited therapeutic HRT options while also including them.
Finally, ART Therapy has no respect for and does not recognize the artificial and arbitrary limitations imposed on the treatments available to patients by the law, by corporate profits or by the medical Establishment so it can always perform at its best for the patient without denying options.
