well that is wrong. excess carbs get stored as fat.
Carbs do not get stored as fat. Period. Suggesting otherwise is incorrect.
De novo lipogensis, the conversion of carbs to fat, is very rare in humans and generally only happens under some very unlikely circumstances. An example would be if you ate 1000g of carbs everyday for several days.
Nobody is eating that much carbs so it's not even worth worrying about. So while the enzymatic pathway for carbs to get stored as fat
does exist in humans, it is not the norm. It's extremely rare.
Carbs and protein can still contribute to fat gain in a surplus. They won't get directly stored as fat, but there are other mechanisms in which they can contribute to fat gain.
if you are taking in both fat and carbs the fat gets store and than the carbs get stored.
I stated earlier that a surplus, regardless of what it is comprised of, will contribute to fat gain.
It doesn't matter if it's carbs.
It doesn't matter if it's protein.
It doesn't matter if it's fat.
Fat gain will be the same, however, carbs do not get 'stored' as fat. They can contribute to fat gain in a surplus, but this holds true for ANY MACRO. Even Protein.
If you are in a surplus fat gain will be the same regardless of where the excess macros come from, even for both protein and carbs. Protein and carbs in a surplus can contribute to fat gain but they don't get directly stored as fat.
protein and fat will not make you fat. the opposite happens. you gain muscle and lose fat.
This just comes down to the amount of calories consumed. You will lose fat in a deficit regardless. Keto diets don't necessarily lead to more fat loss, its just a different dieting technique.
It all comes down to the deficit, the size of the deficit, and the ability of the dieter to consistently meet the calorie goal. Individual foods and even macros aren't going to dramatically affect the rate of fat loss. There are no macro ratios that will directly burn more fat than others.
if you added 500 calories from protein you will not gain fat.
If you are in a surplus of calories, you will gain fat. It doesn't matter if the surplus comes from protein, carbs, or fat. Fat gain will be the same.
A 500 calorie surplus of protein can contribute to fat gain. Same with carbs. It doesn't get DIRECTLY stored as fat, but it can contribute to fat gain through other mechanisms.
Just because they don't get stored as fat doesn't mean they can't contribute to overall fat gain. Both protein and carbs can do this.
A surplus made up of carbs can contribute to fat gain by inhibiting the oxidization of fat because your body is spending more time / effort oxidizing carbs, therefore the rate of oxidizing fat goes down. Carbs do not get directly stored, but it will still contribute to fat gain in an indirect way.
A surplus made up of protein can also contribute to fat gain because your body will burn excess protein for energy and the rate of fat oxidized will be reduced, causing fat to be stored. Protein doesn't get directly stored as fat, but it still contributes to fat gain.
Neither macro is 'better' than the other when it comes to minimizing fat gain in a surplus.
I don't think anyone here has added 500 calories to their diet that was only protein to really know what happens. most people here love their carbs, cause they think they need all this energy to grow muscle.
Energy and performance in the gym is hugely important for many here, this is true. Personally, I wouldn't lift weights on a low carb diet even if you paid me.