A Sponge for Knowledge, on my way to 285lbs.

[WyattEarp]

No doubt. Nothing worth having comes easily though unfortunately...

I eat the same thing for four days, then have a 'cheat day' which is comprised of whatever I want for breakfast, and then fairly healthy food for the reminder of my day. Usually I tend to under eat on cheat days, as days 'on' are such a burden especially into week 12-16+. Heres the diet though...

1 gallon of water with Creatine and BCAA's mixed in throughout the day.

0300 meal 1
1.5 cups oat meal w/ .5 cup raisins
8oz egg whites w/8oz 2% milk w/ 1.5 scoops intek protien
2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
1 Banana

I workout shortly after.
Post workout
8oz 2%milk w/ 1.5 scoops intek protein

0600 meal 2
7oz chicken breast
1 cup quinoa
90-120g steamed broccoli

0900 meal 3
7 oz chicken breast
1 cup quinoa
10 spears asparagus

1200 meal 4
7 oz chicken breast
.5 avocado
2 cups spinach
8oz Sweet potato

1500(3pm) meal 5
8oz lean organic Ribeye
8oz sweet potato
2 cups of spinach

1800(6pm) meal 6
8oz 2% milk w/ 8oz liquid egg whites w/ 1 scoop intek protein
2 tbsp natural peanut butter

In total
Calories 4,557
Carbs 410g
Fat 117g
Protein 440g

 

[Eman]

I like that you're trying to keep it clean but this looks like a cutting diet to me.

Add the raw egg whites to your shake. Use whole eggs and up the peanut butter.

Use whole milk.

Sub out the chicken for more red meat. Don't go below 8oz.

Don't under eat on cheat days, get fucking dirty.

This is a game of calories. Your protein is there but your calories need to go up. Don't make it hard on yourself by trying to stay too clean... Think calories.

That's what I would do. Hope this helps.

 

[WyattEarp]

I hate eatihg. Need to invent magic pills of calories. Welcome,I see you've already had you're first disagreement, you should fit in. 285 is big, how are you carrying the current weight? Previous cycles? What do you have to share?

Again, welcome.

TNE

I need to go to the Wonka factory for that food pill they had, I WISH bro. Yes, first day in already causing trouble... my bad! 285 is big, but I am 6'4" so it looks like 240... At least in my eyes, which may be skewed. My current is 255 is, water weight fluctuates +/- lbs... but I carry it well, off cycle and off diet right now and I'm about %12 maybe 14 at the most, had you showed up to the 'party' lol earlier you would have seen my picture, recent photo. I've done 5 cycles total. First was in 2009 just ran Test E 700mgs/wk for 8wks, fell in love. So a year later I did another cycle of just Test E same dose but 12wks. Then took a break, work/life. So 2013 I did another just Test E 700mgs/wk for 12 weeks. Everything went great. Then I suffered a shoulder Injury and recovered, had to climb the 'lifting ladder' again, naturally though, so that took a couple years. I didn't want to use gear to catch up, I wanted to hit my natural limit and then push it further so January of 2016 I started another cycle 12 wks long 750 mgs/wk Test E, 500mg/wk Deca with hcg during to keep hpta going. Went fucking great, cycled off in april. April, May, June were all off and then July I kicked back on with 900mgs/wk Test E, and 550mg/wk Deca w/hcg. Came off of that cycle in Oct, I was supposed to run D Bol as a kicker but it was Bunk AF. So now planning my next cycle, hopefully starting February.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I eat a little less on cheat days and holidays and all that, too. To me cheating is not having to stuff my face all day.

4500 calories is nothing though. The kind of weight you're trying to gain is going to take a lot more than that.

Edit: I'd lower the protein and raise carbs and even fat, it's easier to put down massive amounts of.

 

[WyattEarp]

Think calories.

Good to go, yeah I have been trying to keep it lean gainz I guess I will have change my game plan. I was thinking of adding in brown rice and black beans mixed too. So cheat days...? Just fucking eat what I see? Or still stray away from junk food?

 

[WyattEarp]

I eat a little less on cheat days and holidays and all that, too. To me cheating is not having to stuff my face all day.

4500 calories is nothing though. The kind of weight you're trying to gain is going to take a lot more than that.

Edit: I'd lower the protein and raise carbs and even fat, it's easier to put down massive amounts of.

Do you see how much I eat to get there though? Fuck, lol... So what do you suggest?

 

[Eman]

Good to go, yeah I have been trying to keep it lean gainz I guess I will have change my game plan. I was thinking of adding in brown rice and black beans mixed too. So cheat days...? Just fucking eat what I see? Or still stray away from junk food?

I'd keep it reasonable... But don't shy away from calorie dense food. If you eat whatever you see, you may tend to end up eating less at the end of the day just because you'll feel really full and bloated from junk. You know yourself better than me though. A cheeseburger and some ice cream though, great way to hit calorie numbers. Need to keep an eye on water and the scale though.

Honestly, if I'm trying to gain weight... I eat pretty much whatever I want during cycle as long as I'm hitting big calorie numbers and getting sufficient protein. A structured diet like you have is nice because you tend to get used to it.

A few of the things I mentioned in the other post are things I do regularly for myself. I cut chicken out almost entirely when bulking unless they are thighs. Beef is a caloric bang for your buck.

 

[WyattEarp]

Beef is a caloric bang for your buck.

Mmm yeah I love beef, just don't like the cholesterol that comes with it, wife is a nutritionist so she loves to remind me, although she works with people that have eating disorders... Although she likes to joke that I have one.

Anyways, cheeseburger and ice-cream were for cheat days right? Pancake and eggs for breakfast? I usually will do 5 whole eggs and 5-7 whites cheat mornings.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Do you see how much I eat to get there though? Fuck, lol... So what do you suggest?

Oh believe me, I know. I have an extremely high metabolism. Eat less clean and drop a little protein in favor of carbs. Carbs go down easier. Shakes are good, too. Milk, peanut butter, olive oil, whatever you want to toss in there.

By less clean I don't mean like shit, eat vegetables with every meal and lean meats and all that. Throw in whole grain pasta, bread, stuff like that. Cereal is good, too. My last cycle if I woke up in the night I'd smash like 1/3 of a box of cereal and have a glass of milk. If what you want is to gain weight and you're not this is the kind of stuff you have to do. Awhile back after every meal I'd have a glass of milk and a banana because it was easy to get down when i was already stuffed. That added up to 1000+ calories extra.

 

[WyattEarp]

I hate eatihg. Need to invent magic pills of calories. Welcome,I see you've already had you're first disagreement, you should fit in. 285 is big, how are you carrying the current weight? Previous cycles? What do you have to share?

Again, welcome.

TNE

Oh I lied, my second to last cycle was Sust 500, and I hated it, I got mines bc of blood levels not being constant, horrible sweats, lethargy like bad where i would just go to sleep randomly(i mean not bad for gains but..), anyways started pinning 3 times a week and it settled out but. Switched back to Test E after that, bc E is sooo smooth!

 

[WyattEarp]

Oh believe me, I know. I have an extremely high metabolism. Eat less clean and drop a little protein in favor of carbs. Carbs go down easier. Shakes are good, too. Milk, peanut butter, olive oil, whatever you want to toss in there.

By less clean I don't mean like shit, eat vegetables with every meal and lean meats and all that. Throw in whole grain pasta, bread, stuff like that. Cereal is good, too. My last cycle if I woke up in the night I'd smash like 1/3 of a box of cereal and have a glass of milk. If what you want is to gain weight and you're not this is the kind of stuff you have to do. Awhile back after every meal I'd have a glass of milk and a banana because it was easy to get down when i was already stuffed. That added up to 1000+ calories extra.

I like it, I'm think PB&J's on whole wheat bread in between meals with a glass of milk and a banana. I think I get scared my body isn't going to absorb everything if I eat to often or too much, but I guess thats what the AAS are for?... I get hung up on that old every three hours mantra, so I always worry about eating in-between. Not to mention worrying about getting fat, I really only do 15min or cardio 3-5 days a week... so.

 

[Eman]

Anyways, cheeseburger and ice-cream were for cheat days right? Pancake and eggs for breakfast? I usually will do 5 whole eggs and 5-7 whites cheat mornings.

Or whatever you want. Whatever foods make it easy for you to get calories down. If you're worried about cholesterol, keep an eye on bloods. I've never had mine out of range and I eat everything that should make it high, supposedly.

 

[Eman]

I think I get scared my body isn't going to absorb everything if I eat to often or too much, but I guess thats what the AAS are for?... I get hung up on that old every three hours mantra, so I always worry about eating in-between.

@Docd187123 is eating a cheese-less burger somewhere and his ears are burning.

 

[Docd187123]

@Docd187123 is eating a cheese-less burger somewhere and his ears are burning.

I read this as I was eating rigatoni bolognese (sin queso) and a ch**seless kobe beef burger with fried prosciutto and sopressata

 

[Sk8man101]

I really have no clue where your hostility is coming from but I only told you that to try and help you man. Members here tell new guys not to post identifying pictures on a regular basis... it's the same on pretty much all of the board's. I'm on one board that will change the picture for you if you don't do it yourself. It has nothing to do with trying to preach at you from a pedestal, it's to help keep you safer. Notice, I said safer... Because you're right, it's not the only thing that could get you in trouble. LE is not the only group that you should take caution of on these boards either.

Now, typically a new guy that comes to Meso is interested in meeting people and being friendly so they can be accepted into the community. You seem to be taking the opposite approach for some reason. I hope you change that attitude and become more accepting of other individuals thoughts and suggestions... Otherwise, there really isn't much point in you being here.

Damn that was well spoken^
And surprisingly pretty nice.

 

[WyattEarp]

Damn that was well spoken^
And surprisingly pretty nice.

You'll notice in life, there are differences in, lets say, leadership styles.