AAS for lean bulk with minimal mental sides

[NightBeast666]

I agree with AlwaysHungry.
Manipulating the GH/Insulin pathway, in a way that makes you have more IGF1 & better haemoglobin a1ct levels (insulin sensitivity) while putting in copius amount of food that you'd need to be huge, is a game changer in and of itself.

I hope young bodybuilders get into the habit of applying that knowledge, even before they get on roids. This can help improve ypur quality of life and longevity.

Gather enough info about it, just as you'd do for roids. There's plenty of resources on Youtube, for free- ranging from old school bodybuilders' diets to fairly modern ones like that of Tony Huge (although I don't like that guy).

All the best.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I imagine it comes down to the individual but for me even primo (DHT) resulted in mental changes not observed before with testosterone only. In my head I imagine scenarios where people argue/act against me and I then assert myself. Also I am harsher with stuff that annoys me, in a way that I set clearer boundaries in an act of self care, reducing emotional compatibility to others (which is good imo).

It's absolutely nothing serious, but enough for me to notice.

Just for the record.

Mast does that for me

 

[Liter O' Test]

Test and most importantly manage estrogen dose the test and ai ED or atleast the A.I ED.

For me like 30 is a sweetspot. Was thinking 22 like my natural estrogen but i might have been a bit too numb. 60 makes me nuts.

As far as compounds... test... var... tbol...even dbol if the euphoria offsets the potential for mood change from e2. All gear will stimulate your cns that could cause anxiety but other pathways may negate this by relieeving it.


NEVER touch deca/npp/tren.

I think you just ride out test dosages and throw in some not super androgenic orals.

 

[BabaJagga]

Test and most importantly manage estrogen dose the test and ai ED or atleast the A.I ED.

For me like 30 is a sweetspot. Was thinking 22 like my natural estrogen but i might have been a bit too numb. 60 makes me nuts.

As far as compounds... test... var... tbol...even dbol if the euphoria offsets the potential for mood change from e2. All gear will stimulate your cns that could cause anxiety but other pathways may negate this by relieeving it.


NEVER touch deca/npp/tren.

I think you just ride out test dosages and throw in some not super androgenic orals.

if someone needs 25mg of aromasin, or less, per week, how would you dose it daily?

 

[Liter O' Test]

if someone needs 25mg of aromasin, or less, per week, how would you dose it daily?

I dont like aromasin, i think the half life combined with the suicidal inhibition can make it tricky especially with frequent dosing.

You could crush it up and eyeball 7 lines, then rip the top off a fishoil cap and push a line off into there and take it each day with a high fat meal.

For the guys that can just take a little asin once or twice a week and be in range i think they shouldnt necessarily fix whats not broken because they must not aromatise alot, but for me, daily adex is a must.

 

[BabaJagga]

I dont like aromasin, i think the half life combined with the suicidal inhibition can make it tricky especially with frequent dosing.

You could crush it up and eyeball 7 lines, then rip the top off a fishoil cap and push a line off into there and take it each day with a high fat meal.

For the guys that can just take a little asin once or twice a week and be in range i think they shouldnt necessarily fix whats not broken because they must not aromatise alot, but for me, daily adex is a must.

im askin cause thats what im doin rn.
500mg / week of test C + 1/4 of 25mg aromasin pill on pin days (monday/thursday). gonna draw bloods monday before pin & ai so will see where i am with e2.

on 300mg my e2 was 51 pg/ml.

 

[Liter O' Test]

im askin cause thats what im doin rn.
500mg / week of test C + 1/4 of 25mg aromasin pill on pin days (monday/thursday). gonna draw bloods monday before pin & ai so will see where i am with e2.

on 300mg my e2 was 51 pg/ml.

yeah im not sure, the method of action is different from its half life. if anyone has real issues dialing in e2 i reccomend them to try adex because i struggled for years with aromasin and adex was much more linear it seemed like

 

[BeardedGuy]

Just build him a personalized cycle plan, you monkey


I vote 200 test
600 tren
200 mast

10mg of var daily(don't wanna go too crazy)

This is weekly?

 

[BabaJagga]

yeah im not sure, the method of action is different from its half life. if anyone has real issues dialing in e2 i reccomend them to try adex because i struggled for years with aromasin and adex was much more linear it seemed like

i dont feel high/low days so far. will see what bloods will show, im super begginer with this so... anyway i was just curious

 

[247JL]

Thanks all(most). I'll plan on going back up to the 300 for 4 weeks and then 500 for another 12-16. And more research.
Diet is going well. Sticking to the macros and as many whole foods as I can.

 

[xrayphoton13]

if someone needs 25mg of aromasin, or less, per week, how would you dose it daily?

Aromasin does not need to be dosed daily like arimidex. I would just throw it all in on Monday or split it Monday and Thursday. This approach works for me just fine on big cycles

 

[BabaJagga]

Aromasin does not need to be dosed daily like arimidex. I would just throw it all in on Monday or split it Monday and Thursday. This approach works for me just fine on big cycles

i guess it takes a bit time for new aromatise enzyme to form? or whatever process there is?

cause it kills it completely, estrogen doesnt rebound so its okay to dose it twice per week? or am i wrong?

 

[glpfun]

i guess it takes a bit time for new aromatise enzyme to form? or whatever process there is?

cause it kills it completely, estrogen doesnt rebound so its okay to dose it twice per week? or am i wrong?

Yes because of suicidal moa no rebound so less frequent dosing works better

 

[Jeffholio5]

100 ment
200 dhb
100 mast p

Every other day

 

[BabaJagga]

Yes because of suicidal moa no rebound so less frequent dosing works better

so i understood it right. good tnx.

 

[glpfun]

For me anything that excites calcium channels can make me a little panicky. Basically all orals except oral primo do this lol and ofc 19nors.

I also get the imagined scenario thing with dht derivatives, I’m fairly good at catching them early on and change focus but sometimes I catch myself dwelling on them a bit.

I just run 210 test/210 mast/3iu of gh now and feel fine, I was micro dosing tren for a while and didn’t find a lot of benefits.

 

[BabaJagga]

For me anything that excites calcium channels can make me a little panicky. Basically all orals except oral primo do this lol and ofc 19nors.

I also get the imagined scenario thing with dht derivatives, I’m fairly good at catching them early on and change focus but sometimes I catch myself dwelling on them a bit.

I just run 210 test/210 mast/3iu of gh now and feel fine, I was micro dosing tren for a while and didn’t find a lot of benefits.

can you describe what panicky means for you?

 

[Nidus]

For me anything that excites calcium channels can make me a little panicky. Basically all orals except oral primo do this lol and ofc 19nors.

I also get the imagined scenario thing with dht derivatives, I’m fairly good at catching them early on and change focus but sometimes I catch myself dwelling on them a bit.

I just run 210 test/210 mast/3iu of gh now and feel fine, I was micro dosing tren for a while and didn’t find a lot of benefits.

What was your micro drose of tren?

Since i have this crazy amount of Tren A and E still stocked up i am thinking of running 10-25mg a week too.

 

[glpfun]

can you describe what panicky means for you?

CNS overshoots reactions to thing and dumps adrenaline too easy, basically fight or flight gets activated easily

 

[glpfun]

What was your micro drose of tren?

Since i have this crazy amount of Tren A and E still stocked up i am thinking of running 10-25mg a week too.

35 mg which didn’t really notice anything, somewhere around 50-70 start getting CNS sides