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[The-Squat]

The lack of communication, accountability and professionalism is absurd with this company. I hope a different company steps in to fill this void.

Members set a standard here that killed accountability here IMO. Seem to start with QSC.

No matter what is sold and said people still jump all over the supplier for sales because of lower prices

Can't have accountability if no authority is backing it and leaving members hanging.

It's just all business here and big talk until action is required!

QSC still has not owned up to money taken from members and than selling that same product to other members for a higher price because they are not being held accountable, ain't going to change today.

Nobody on this board seems to hold Jano accountable for his report mistakes when they accrue, they just claim it has to be right. I personally have had 5 wrong in the last 12 months with the last one off by 40%.

I will not discuss it any further or answer questions about it, it is what it is!

 

[Photon]

Nobody on this board seems to hold Jano accountable for his report mistakes when they accrue, they just claim it has to be right. I personally have had 5 wrong in the last 12 months with the last one off by 40%.

Unless we have a better alternative nothing will change. It's unlikely there'll be further developments either with how much there is to earn testing peps

 

[IndividualMan]

QSC still has not owned up to money taken from members and than selling that same product to other members for a higher price because they are not being held accountable, ain't going to change today.

QSC got cooked massively tho. It is a miracle that they are back in any form.
Usually dealers dont come back when they get picked up/ their operation gets busted, so this is a unusual scenario

 

[Sampei]

Members set a standard here that killed accountability here IMO. Seem to start with QSC.

No matter what is sold and said people still jump all over the supplier for sales because of lower prices

Can't have accountability if no authority is backing it and leaving members hanging.

It's just all business here and big talk until action is required!

QSC still has not owned up to money taken from members and than selling that same product to other members for a higher price because they are not being held accountable, ain't going to change today.

Nobody on this board seems to hold Jano accountable for his report mistakes when they accrue, they just claim it has to be right. I personally have had 5 wrong in the last 12 months with the last one off by 40%.

I will not discuss it any further or answer questions about it, it is what it is!

Not talking about it (jano) will. Never improve things tho

 

[The-Squat]

Unless we have a better alternative nothing will change. It's unlikely there'll be further developments either with how much there is to earn testing peps

I think growing pains is a part of everything and in time I hope things tighten up for Jano, learning curves are real. If I recall right in this last year he stopped testing and has a large crew doing so, this is when issues showed up.

I want the best for him and the other companies as we can not rely on just 1.

One way or the other as if it's the test or raws I hope you find resolution, this board lacks providing that while claiming accountability and enforcing strict rules on it.

Hopefully in time this also will change to the better for all here with everyone being held accountable no matter what the reputation is, nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. Some mistakes in this can cost dearly to a parsons health. Like the suppliers here all the nutt hangers stood up for that had the bad reta, no accountability although some ended up in the ER.

I'm not bashing I'm stating facts and would love to see change, change for all like it's said to be but not being.

I been at this a long time brother, I have seen people get fucked up many times from shit like this. My circle don't face these things as true transparency and accountability has been #1 from day 1 going on 15 years.

I never want to see people get hurt from a suppliers fault, testers fault or source's fault. Getting hurt from one's own stupidity is bad enough in this.

 

[The-Squat]

Not talking about it (jano) will. Never improve things tho

I just did talk about it but have been afraid of how much this board is so protective of him that I would not have been taken serious.

The 40% off pissed me off!

 

[Cman90]

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I just did talk about it but have been afraid of how much this board is so protective of him that I would not have been taken serious.

The 40% off pissed me off!

How do you know he was off by 40%? Can you discuss this in his thread? This is very concerning if true.

 

[The-Squat]

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How do you know he was off by 40%? Can you discuss this in his thread? This is very concerning if true.

All I can say is once with tren e I got from qsc it tested 88% but finished product came out 220.

With deca and a different supplier 1st test 78% 2nd 54% same batch, sent off to AB and it was 94%.

Because of what is said on this board between the 2 I had to wait to see who was correct, made it at 300mg adding 13% and sent it off, tested as 319.73mg. There is no way it was known to be a 300mg product.

All other tests from other people of the finish showed to be at the 94%.

Raws are what the issue seems to be testing this past year from what we are seeing as finished is always spot on. Peptides I can't speak for.

This as far as I will take it but add, a good supplier should stand by paying for a 2nd test like mine did when it's highly disputable.

 

[Photon]

All I can say is once with tren e I got from qsc it tested 88% but finished product came out 220.

With deca and a different supplier 1st test 78% 2nd 54% same batch, sent off to AB and it was 94%.

Because of what is said on this board between the 2 I had to wait to see who was correct, made it at 300mg adding 13% and sent it off, tested as 319.73mg. There is no way it was know to be a 300mg product.

All other tests from other people of the finish showed to be at the 94%.

Raws are what the issue seems to be testing this past year from what we are seeing as finished is always spot on. Peptides I can't speak for.

This as far as I will take it but add, a good supplier should stand by paying for a 2nd test like mine did when it's highly disputable.

This is something Ive mentioned before..how representative is the sample sent in for testing? Can we realistically believe that 200mg is sufficient for a 1/2kg bag of raws? We have seen, by visual inspection, that certain parts of raws, look "dirtier" or slightly different "clumpy etc".

When i started testing i was considering to dissolve 5g in pure guaiacol, sending for testing, then working out the purity based off the mg/ml...but i got lazy.

If you request for raw data, you can see that typically, only 40mg is used in the sample!

 

[The-Squat]

I'm not trying to justify AASraw

I'm not trying to oust Jano

I'm not trying to promote AB

I just can't afford these kind of mistakes and have to take it upon myself to find resolution behind them. When talking to Jano the communication is great and a resolve happens a lot of times but Kate throws it under the rug too often for my liking.

We need all the companies that test to be the very best they can be and we need many of them IMO.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Members set a standard here that killed accountability here IMO. Seem to start with QSC.

No matter what is sold and said people still jump all over the supplier for sales because of lower prices

Can't have accountability if no authority is backing it and leaving members hanging.

It's just all business here and big talk until action is required!

QSC still has not owned up to money taken from members and than selling that same product to other members for a higher price because they are not being held accountable, ain't going to change today.

Nobody on this board seems to hold Jano accountable for his report mistakes when they accrue, they just claim it has to be right. I personally have had 5 wrong in the last 12 months with the last one off by 40%.

I will not discuss it any further or answer questions about it, it is what it is!

How do you know your jano tests were that inaccurate?

 

[Sampei]

I just did talk about it but have been afraid of how much this board is so protective of him that I would not have been taken serious.

The 40% off pissed me off!

If you lay it down I would be really interested in listening to you. As this is not the first report of it and I do agree since he started managing instead of working directly into the lab I believe the quality has gone down.

 

[Sampei]

All I can say is once with tren e I got from qsc it tested 88% but finished product came out 220.

With deca and a different supplier 1st test 78% 2nd 54% same batch, sent off to AB and it was 94%.

Because of what is said on this board between the 2 I had to wait to see who was correct, made it at 300mg adding 13% and sent it off, tested as 319.73mg. There is no way it was known to be a 300mg product.

All other tests from other people of the finish showed to be at the 94%.

Raws are what the issue seems to be testing this past year from what we are seeing as finished is always spot on. Peptides I can't speak for.

This as far as I will take it but add, a good supplier should stand by paying for a 2nd test like mine did when it's highly disputable.

So basically you are saying the purity test was wrong as it should have come underdosed if the raw were really 78% and you just corrected by 13%?

 

[The-Squat]

How do you know your jano tests were that inaccurate?

If you lay it down I would be really interested in listening to you. As this is not the first report of it and I do agree since he started managing instead of working directly into the lab I believe the quality has gone down.

I just did in postes above, it's all I got without repeating myself.

 

[Sampei]

In my opinion you should have corrected the full % and that would have shown a very big difference.

78 + 22% and then send it to test.

If the raw were 78% it would have come out perfectly on point 1-2% +/- if the raw were 94% it would have come out 18% overdose more or less and that would have been quite obvious.

Next raw I get that have a bad purity I'll try this test myself

 

[The-Squat]

So basically you are saying the purity test was wrong as it should have come underdosed if the raw were really 78% and you just corrected by 13%?

No I'm saying it was tested 3 times, twice with Jano at 78% and 54% once with AB at 94%

I added 13% to 94% and got it just about spot on at 319.73mg.

 

[Sampei]

No I'm saying it was tested 3 times, twice with Jano at 78% and 54% once with AB at 94%

I added 13% to 94% and got it just about spot on at 319.73mg.

Was the quantity test on the oil done by Jano?
How jano responded to that?

 

[The-Squat]

Was the quantity test on the oil done by Jano?
How jano responded to that?

No, AB and there is no way they knew it was a 300mg product.

I didn't take it back to Jano because I felt Kate was just standing by the results. I was too upset at this point to continue and moved on.

 

[Sampei]

No, AB and there is no way they knew it was a 300mg product.

I didn't take it back to Jano because I felt Kate was just standing by the results. I was too upset at this point to continue and moved on.

Ahhhh to bad.. The final test would be Jano testing it exactly 320+ and well going against his own purity report

 

[The-Squat]

In my opinion you should have corrected the full % and that would have shown a very big difference.

78 + 22% and then send it to test.

If the raw were 78% it would have come out perfectly on point 1-2% +/- if the raw were 94% it would have come out 18% overdose more or less and that would have been quite obvious.

Next raw I get that have a bad purity I'll try this test myself

I went off the 94% based off many other results of finished product done by Jano from others with the same raws.

This supplier was the only one on the face of the earth that had deca at the time. All finished products from all that tested it with Jano was in the 94% range, only 2 of us tested the raws.

You know how that goes with people and testing, skip the raws and go straight to the finished.

So indeed the raws were correct with AB and off with Jano.