There was no minimum order. You could have tested his products by just ordering two or three, like I did. I order some short ester stuff to try so I don't have to wait 3 -5 weeks to figure out quality or go get blood work ( I do know blood work is an exact science if proper protocol is followed, but I've done enough juice to be able to "ball park" quality) His prop does have me having raging hard ons after only 4 days, which is a good sign btw) Yet, you order over 600 dollars of stuff to Another country, with the wrong payment, shortly before/ or after his email is hacked ( it doesn't matter whether it was before or after) None of these thing add up. I'm not defending aavang, because I gave him a lot of shit before my pack arrived. I was worried, but he reassured me. He was patient with me , and he understood why i was anxious. He kept in contact at all times and even let me know the exact day my pack would land, which was a favor on his end. I'm not dick riding him, but y'all mother fuckers need to get off this thread . Literally, no one believes you. Give it up. I wanted to post this a couple nights ago to get tall the fuck off this thread. We're all trying to help each other here and you three are really hurting the community. Don't you all feel like shit attacking this guy his business, his livelihood? Find something better to do and pay for your juice. You'll get better gains that way because you won't want to waist your own money. GO AWAY