AAVANG (Lab tested source)

[mghoward74]

I'm also wondering. ....

Why would this Source have a customer send payment to his "Supplier" in china (not receiver)? Did he actually want the customer to send funds to his "Raw Supplier"? If so, then that's odd. You ultimately put a customer in jeopardy (distribution vs casual user) dealing with your raw supplier. A situation that you should be doing yourself.

The source claim to have his/her email hacked...
If the sources email supposedly was hacked, how come there's no other member or person/s making these accusations? I guess using the excuse "My email got hacked" relieves you from your responsibility. I guess business is slow...lol

Hope someone can clear this up for me.

@Flounder don't go anywhere....lol

 

[Dresden]

I'm also wondering. ....

Why would this Source have a customer send payment to his "Supplier" in china (not receiver)? Did he actually want the customer to send funds to his "Raw Supplier"? If so, then that's odd. You ultimately put a customer in jeopardy (distribution vs casual user) dealing with your raw supplier. A situation that you should be doing yourself.

The source claim to have his/her email hacked...
If the sources email supposedly was hacked, how come there's no other member or person/s making these accusations? I guess using the excuse "My email got hacked" relieves you from your responsibility. I guess business is slow...lol

Hope someone can clear this up for me.

@Flounder don't go anywhere....lol

Hopefully AAvang will clear this up...those were not payment options i received at all

 

[redrum720]

I payed with my own hard earned money buddy. Neither Flounder or mindless is on his gear. They just simply don't like you along with alot of others.

I second the not liking him part
Sounds like meek always fighting

 

[Aavang1]

From the pic of his gear I've seen, I'd stay away. Why were you in such a rush to post pics when bottling process wasn't even finished. The fact your moving gear from place to place while unsecured is concerning.

I know this source makes gear in his bathroom or kitchen. You personally have no medical lab or research center, therefore the only place you can manufacturer gear is where? Bathroom...!

Also, has any member had bloodwork done?

Shouldn't matter whether a member is Jr, WKM, AM, or such, the shit slinging back n forth between members here in this thread is ridiculous. It's members vs sources.....period....don't forget it.

No one should have given this source a green light. Why?

No secure email.
No PGP encryption
Pics of gear? A few vials? Seriously guys.
Carrier oil? Post pics of oil...duh
Can't provide the minimum, (GTFO)
Pics of filters
How do you sanitize your vials..

*At least question him on brewing process & filtration methods. I guarantee he's not using the best filters available*

Are you private source? If not, email should have been posted. Pay options, posted.

Hacking of email accounts is a sign to stay away.

You did something that caused another forum moderator to ban you, unless you were on evo. You screw up somewhere, and you claim it's not your fault

Hi, thank you for your questions

I was not in a rush, the pictures were posted without labels and 3 vials without seals intentionally to show i am infact the manufacturer and those were in fact my vials. That picture was taken minutes after the vials were filled and the stoppers set i was not transporting them around in that state. It was all done in a manner which showed the greatest credibility.

I have a secure email
I have pgp encryption
I will not post entire stock pics, the pic you are referring to is the most i will show of stock
I can take a picture of my oil
I can take a picture of my filters
Vials are washed with 70% isopropyl alcohol and dry heat sterilized

I am a public source, but i refrain from drawing LE attention as much as possible. Anyone who would like my email can pm me, anyone who would like my payment options can email me. Ive found most people prefer business be conducted in this manner and i do as well.

We have gone over the steroid forums situation extensively in this thread, big lou has provided no evidence to back his claim of me being Xeno despite being asked to by myself and others. He has posted out meso members personal and family info and the circumstantial evidence is almost undeniable that he hacked my email account. That is all he denied sponsorship for and that is why he hacked my email accounts. He is no better than any scammer.

Since then he has not been able to access my email again as i have increased my firewall, changed proxy settings, implemented a VPN service, and continue to use TOR as always. I also have an external hardrive. This is above and beyond what most ugl's use and im confident this will never be an issue again.

I would also like to mention there have been multiple account of end users saying my gear is the smoothest and causes the least PIP out of any they have tried. Ive been brewing for years and never had an infection and that includes all of my meso customers

 

[Aavang1]

I'm also wondering. ....

Why would this Source have a customer send payment to his "Supplier" in china (not receiver)? Did he actually want the customer to send funds to his "Raw Supplier"? If so, then that's odd. You ultimately put a customer in jeopardy (distribution vs casual user) dealing with your raw supplier. A situation that you should be doing yourself.

The source claim to have his/her email hacked...
If the sources email supposedly was hacked, how come there's no other member or person/s making these accusations? I guess using the excuse "My email got hacked" relieves you from your responsibility. I guess business is slow...lol

Hope someone can clear this up for me.

@Flounder don't go anywhere....lol

This was all fabricated no one received those payment options, the china reciever was actually pointed out as evidence to the fact superfly was lying.

There are no other members making these accusations because they all received their order, they are not superfly aka sailfish kite aka tylerteo aka whatever other handles hes running.

My email was hacked and that has been confirmed by steroid forum invites sent to my customers. It does not relieve me of responsibility but there were no members whos funds were actually taken so there is no responsibility to be taken there. Im assuming this is what you're referring to.

 

[mghoward74]

You have NOW changed your security measures, which is a start. I sincerely hope you have disposed of all sensitive info prior to the new security features. I'm still wondering why you use a gmail to discuss sensitive material though? Why did you offer paypal as a payment option?

Pics of inventory? This is to show you can meet the demands of future orders. If your a 100 Gram guy, chances are you won't be able to meet the demands of this board, plus the others your sourcing on. If LE wanted you, it wouldn't matter if you had a pic of one vial or one hundred. You would fall under the category of distribution/distributor.

What testing has been done on your products beside labmax? Simec?

You still haven't answered questions about why you are having customers send funds to your raw supplier.

1.) You can post pics of your filters
2.) You can post pics of your carrier oil
3.) Are you using a pill press for the aromasin? If so, pics
4.) Scales
5.) BB/ BA % (you can post basskiller % if you choose)
6.) How long have you been brewing?
7.) How long have you been sourcing?
8.) Are you sure your sanitation/sterilization method for your vials are appropriate?


Save the smoothest gear, with the least amount of pip line for someone else. We're grown men here.

Hopefully AAvang will clear this up...those were not payment options i received at all

^^Please answer this^^^

What are your plans for @tylerteo at the moment?

Most sources last 6 weeks at meso....just saying.

 

[Flounder]

https://thinksteroids.com/community/members/65134/ (@Flounder) don't go anywhere....lol

Haha thanks. I haven't disappeared at all, just taking a break.

Why would this Source have a customer send payment to his "Supplier" in china (not receiver)? Did he actually want the customer to send funds to his "Raw Supplier"?

This makes no sense to me either. But we don't know what really happened since tylerteo is a no-show after CBS called him out on the WU/Paypal discrepancy. Tylerteo kept saying he paid by Paypal card but the email indicates otherwise. Why did he lie about how he paid since he himself said it's not a pay option where he lives? Now he hasn't been heard from since. Weird.

 

[mghoward74]

This was all fabricated no one received those payment options, the china reciever was actually pointed out as evidence to the fact superfly was lying.

There are no other members making these accusations because they all received their order, they are not superfly aka sailfish kite aka tylerteo aka whatever other handles hes running.

My email was hacked and that has been confirmed by steroid forum invites sent to my customers. It does not relieve me of responsibility but there were no members whos funds were actually taken so there is no responsibility to be taken there. Im assuming this is what you're referring to.

So you have proof that @Superfly and @tylerteo are in fact the same person?

Can you prove this? Otherwise these are accusations. How did you feel about those accusations against you by big lou?

And yes, that is what I am referring too

 

[Aavang1]

So you have proof that @Superfly and @tylerteo are in fact the same person?

Can you prove this? Otherwise these are accusations. How did you feel about those accusations against you by big lou?

And yes, that is what I am referring too

No i dont, only the circumstantial evidence which almost everyone has agreed upon, i do not claim otherwise unlike big lou.

 

[rpbb]

No i dont, only the circumstantial evidence which almost everyone has agreed upon, i do not claim otherwise unlike big lou.

I don't agree, I've never known big lou to be wrong. and who are the people that received the emails from your hacked account. haven't heard from anyone on this board that they were the ones

 

[Skull]

who are the people that received the emails from your hacked account.

I was one of them bro. Wish I would have kept it know but I didn't think it would matter so I deleted it immediately. It said I had been invited to SF smh. I do have some accounts with diff boards but never use them. MESO is where all of my bros, friends, an family are at an it will always remain where I choose to be!!!

 

[penche]

What the shit. I received an email to join SF too. Didn't know who sent it to me though..it didn't specify sender just said something like admin

Wtf is going with all this shit.

 

[Aavang1]

You have NOW changed your security measures, which is a start. I sincerely hope you have disposed of all sensitive info prior to the new security features. I'm still wondering why you use a gmail to discuss sensitive material though? Why did you offer paypal as a payment option?

Pics of inventory? This is to show you can meet the demands of future orders. If your a 100 Gram guy, chances are you won't be able to meet the demands of this board, plus the others your sourcing on. If LE wanted you, it wouldn't matter if you had a pic of one vial or one hundred. You would fall under the category of distribution/distributor.

What testing has been done on your products beside labmax? Simec?

You still haven't answered questions about why you are having customers send funds to your raw supplier.

1.) You can post pics of your filters
2.) You can post pics of your carrier oil
3.) Are you using a pill press for the aromasin? If so, pics
4.) Scales
5.) BB/ BA % (you can post basskiller % if you choose)
6.) How long have you been brewing?
7.) How long have you been sourcing?
8.) Are you sure your sanitation/sterilization method for your vials are appropriate?


Save the smoothest gear, with the least amount of pip line for someone else. We're grown men here.



^^Please answer this^^^

What are your plans for @tylerteo at the moment?

Most sources last 6 weeks at meso....just saying.

Forgive me if you are being genuine, but i have to point out that you keep asking questions that have already been answered and most seem to be loaded. Pretty much everyone agrees on Superfly and tylerteo and it has been proven tylerteo is a liar, its been gone over for 20 pages there is nothing more i can say about them, i will not feed who i know personally to be a scammer and who many others believe to be as well, but you are free to make your own decision.

I didnt use gmail
I didnt offer paypal cards
Im not going to post a full stock picture, I dont provide unnecessary incentive to LE
Ive already met Meso demand on a 50% off sale
Labmax and HPLC has been done, im sure blood tests will come out shortly, thats more than any other lab besides 24k.

1-2) No problem, ill do it by tomorrow night
3) Pill press should be arriving shortly, i would be happy to take a picture if you express a valid concern as to why this is necessary, hope you dont take this the wrong way but i am very busy.
4) Same as 3, scales that measure to a hundreth of a gram are 50$. Ive spent over 500$ on testing alone.
5) I can tell you the standard percentage is 20% BB 2%BA, i use my own % for each product which i put many hours into perfecting. I will not give out my trade secrets which i worked hard for.
6) 12 years
7) 11 years, i used to sell local but i have since moved and therefore decided to sell online now. This is my first forum.
8) Yes, the proof is in the pudding

Its actually not my line, it was said by a WKM here. Along with a few others who have said similar things. I take pride in my work and it shows!

Tylerteo is a liar and it has been proven so in the last few pages, he has since disappeared. He will not be getting anything from his attempted scam.

I hope i answered everything effectively if i missed anything let me know

 

[54chev]

And I want to apologize to any and all members who feel I pushed too hard on Superfly and tylerteo. It certainly was/is never my intention to divert attention away from the source. That being said my feelings about them, being some deception on their part, has not changed. I realized I pushed it as far as I could and there was no benefit to continuing any further.

I'm going to minimize time on this thread and let the others do the vetting from here. Stay safe Meso members.

Flounder, i dont think you need to or should feel the need to apoligize for anything.

 

[Flounder]

Flounder, i dont think you need to or should feel the need to apoligize for anything.

Thanks for the comment. It is much appreciated. I guess I just wanted everyone to know my intentions are for all our safety, whether it's from sources or shady "members". I just know when something doesn't smell right I tend to pursue the source of the odor until it is found. It's usually my wife's pussy that I'm sniffing out, but not this time.

 

[tylerteo]

Haha thanks. I haven't disappeared at all, just taking a break.

This makes no sense to me either. But we don't know what really happened since tylerteo is a no-show after CBS called him out on the WU/Paypal discrepancy. Tylerteo kept saying he paid by Paypal card but the email indicates otherwise. Why did he lie about how he paid since he himself said it's not a pay option where he lives? Now he hasn't been heard from since. Weird.

paypal mycashcard is the first option and only option that aavang gave me. however this payment is only available in the states. it was only after I asked aavang to work something out for me which he suggested transferring the funds by WU to his supplier in china. I was not comfortable sending the fund to his supplier that's is why I contacted my friend from boston and got him to buy the mycashcard. pls read the email properly before asking my dumb qns. also I have posted pictures of the whatsapp conversation with my friend from boston and pictures of receipts for the purchase of the paypal mycashcard. pls read the email carefully again before making any stupid judgement. theres no lying needed. it only takes a kid to know comprehend my email conversation with aavang.

 

[tylerteo]

continuation of from the previous screenshot.

 

[tylerteo]

The original screenshot he posted cut off everything below Aavang saying "no." It made it look like Aavang said there were no other payment options but pay pal.

Teo posted (accidentally?) the rest of the conversation tonight and it changes things considerably.

So all we've seen is proof that Aavang requested WU payment on Oct 18. Teo hasn't posted any evidence showing Aavang agreed to accept Pay Pal After that Oct 18 email.

I have posted the evidence.

 

[MindlessWork]

Tylerteo I believe you were getting scammed by an impostor who apparently has taken over Vang's email.

 

[tylerteo]

Tylerteo I believe you were getting scammed by an impostor who apparently has taken over Vang's email.

so whos responsibility shall it be?